( NEW ) JP Enhanced 6.5 Grendel Bolt

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Guys I wanted to let you know if you diddnt already know that JP's 6.5 Grendel is out. I just ordered a new 6.5 Grendel Enhanced bolt from JP. I have been waiting for months for there release and its finally up on there site. It is Nickel Boron plated and by the pix of it looks awesome!. I have the AA bolt in my new SCR-11 and what I have read it is a fantastic bolt but by the looks of the pic the finish and machining looks awesome.

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Cant wait to try it out.
 
Is it made from 9310 steel like the Maxim Arms bolt? I wonder what kind of pressure these can take. Everyone throws around the 53K figure for max Grendel presure but thats the max presure of a 5.56 bolt made from 158 carpenter steel not a Grendel bolt made from 9310 steel which has never been rated.
 
Is it made from 9310 steel like the Maxim Arms bolt? I wonder what kind of pressure these can take. Everyone throws around the 53K figure for max Grendel presure but thats the max presure of a 5.56 bolt made from 158 carpenter steel not a Grendel bolt made from 9310 steel which has never been rated.

What I was told is that this has been in the works for a wile now and it is not made of 158 carpenter steel.
 
Is it made from 9310 steel like the Maxim Arms bolt? I wonder what kind of pressure these can take. Everyone throws around the 53K figure for max Grendel presure but thats the max presure of a 5.56 bolt made from 158 carpenter steel not a Grendel bolt made from 9310 steel which has never been rated.

5.56 NATO max pressure is 62,000psi with tested and proofed C-158 bolts, which is 12,000psi more than the AR15 was designed around with the .222 Remington. Tool steel bolts are a result of the AR15 being re-chambered for the .222 Rem Special/AKA 5.56x45 (which was then adopted in a lesser form as the .223 Remington).

Pushing the pressures also required special CMV steel for several reasons, one of which is hoop stress.

If you're trying to push the pressures of the Grendel much past 50,000psi, you're going in a very place in terms of hoop stress. The bolt is the least of your worries.

You need another upper receiver, larger diameter barrel extension, larger diameter barrel tennon threads, and larger bolt to deal with 60,000psi pressures.

There is a reason why Remington used larger diameters with all of the above dimensions on the 30 RAR, and it is capped at 55,000psi.

The 6.5 Grendel system has been rated, and the bolt is not the limiting factor.
 
Me thinks your over your head with your hoop strength arguments. I know your repeating what Bill A is telling you so I'll just smile and leave it along ;)


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Agree. The way he calcs it every Grendel barrel made from stainless is over the hoop stress limit too.
No one has ever split a barrel tenon or exploded a chamber but he thinks that is a problem. There have been countless Grendel bolts broken but that isn't a problem.
We have been running the 264LBC more or less to pressures high enough to swell the cases into the chamfer at the breech of the barrel since we started making the first enhanced bolts in 2008. The thin Lapua cases will only handle 60-62,000 psi. That is the real problem. If you push pressures too high the case will be the first thing that fails. Keep your arm out from under the mag well.
 
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I've used LMT's enhanced 6.5 Grendel bolts in the 6 RATs I've done for myself, but AFAIK, they'd stopped making them at least a year ago. I still get the occasional request for a 6 RAT upper, so maybe it's time I looked into trying one of JP's new enhanced 6.5 bolts? Now that Hornady's stopped making 6HAGAR brass, the RAT will be my choice when I've worn out all the HAGAR brass I've bought for XC HP matches.
 
Agree. The way he calcs it every Grendel barrel made from stainless is over the hoop stress limit too.
No one has ever split a barrel tenon or exploded a chamber but he thinks that is a problem. There have been countless Grendel bolts broken but that isn't a problem.
We have been running the 264LBC more or less to pressures high enough to swell the cases into the chamfer at the breech of the barrel since we started making the first enhanced bolts in 2008. The thin Lapua cases will only handle 60-62,000 psi. That is the real problem. If you push pressures too high the case will be the first thing that fails. Keep your arm out from under the mag well.

I don't think we've had any trouble with the 9310 bolts.
 
Well I received my bolt from JP today and I will tell you that the Nickel boron finish and the machine work on this enhanced bolt is awesome!!..This is top shelf and the price is worth every penny. Im glad JP decided to include a 6.5 Grendel bolt to there enhanced .556 and .308 bolts

WOW!!