New remington 5R

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#1
Well, I've done it. Just ordered a new remington 5r milspec. Should be here Tuesday or wed of next week. So... What kind of scope mount would you guys recommend? What do you like? Hoping to make a few 1k yrds shots. So what do I need? 20moa,25,30? One piece, two piece? Help a newbie.
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#2
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20-25moa is a safe bet. If you're certain the scope you're going to mount has enough travel, then a 30moa is GTG.

NF, Badger, Seekins, Near, Warne, TPS, USO, EGW-HD are all GTG. My preference is: Near, Seekins, TPS (budget), EGW-HD (budget)


Just make sure whatever scope you are going to mount as minimum 65moa of elevation, if want a 100yd Zero and still shoot to 1Kyds.
 
#3
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I'm just going to put on a scope that I've got in the gun safe, a leftover. It's a cheap scope. Until I can get my budget up a little, maybe a couple of months away from buying a nightforce or similar. But wanted to go ahead and get a mount and make some 100-300 yard shots at my local range. I'm very excited.
 
#6
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I've got a old tasco 6x20x40mm and a BSA 3x9x50mm. Both are decent scopes but definitely not what I want or need. But I blowed by wad on the gun. So I'll due with what I got for now.
 
#7
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Weaver extended multi-slot 20MOA rail.

About 39 bucks if memory serves. Very well made.

Make sure you bed the base.
Almost all remingtons require it. My 5R needed it.
 
#8
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I'll have to do some searching on that subject. I heard and read of people bedding the scope base but never have done it. Never had to do that with just a hunting rifle. Whole new ball game and I'm glad to be playing. Thanks
 
#9
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Congrats on your 5R....it is a great rifle out of the box. I got mine about six weeks ago and love it. Very precise rifle if you do your part. Regarding scope bases, I would suggest a one-piece 20 MOA steel base over two piece or aluminum bases. I opted for a Nightforce one-piece.....pricey at $114 but really solid. Regarding scope rings....the sky is the limit. There are plenty out there to choose from so it depends what you want to spend. I opted for Leupold Mark 4 rings (steel) for about $120. Great rings and not too bad on price compared to other alternatives.

I hope you enjoy your 5R as much as I am enjoying mine.
 
#10
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: GTGunner</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Congrats on your 5R....it is a great rifle out of the box. I got mine about six weeks ago and love it. Very precise rifle if you do your part. Regarding scope bases, I would suggest a one-piece 20 MOA steel base over two piece or aluminum bases. I opted for a Nightforce one-piece.....pricey at $114 but really solid. Regarding scope rings....the sky is the limit. There are plenty out there to choose from so it depends what you want to spend. I opted for Leupold Mark 4 rings (steel) for about $120. Great rings and not too bad on price compared to other alternatives.

I hope you enjoy your 5R as much as I am enjoying mine.</div></div>

+1 for the one-piece 20MOA NF base. I have that on my .308 5R and it works like a champ. 1/2 MOA out of the box. Absolutely awesome rifle.

For rings, go with some burris signature zees if you can find them (these suckers are always sold out); only ~ $45.

Chiller's suggestion on a Vortex PST is a good one if you have the money or don't mind holding a CC balance. A possibly better near term option would be a Nikon Monarch. You can Mildot or BDC versions with a side focus for ~ $390. Shot a two inch group at 400 yds today with mine (178gr Hornady AMAX, 44.5 Varget, COL=2.850", CCI primer, Lapua brass trimmed to 2.005").
 
#11
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I was looking at the NF bases, I think that might be the way to go. I don't know about the scope right now, I've only got about a $400 budget. I would like to find a scope with a zero stop in that budget but don't know where to start.
 
#13
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You will love the 5R. I have a Ken Farrel 20 min base on mine with leupold QR rings so I can change scope to other guns.It returns to zero after remounting with good repeatability. I have a 5.5 x 50 Nightforce on it now but you can't go wrong with any of the quality scopes you see talked about on the Hide. Pick your favorite reticle.

I think the only feature you will not be happy with is the trigger. It sucks. Jewell is $ but worth every penny
 
#14
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Anybody have any suggestions on a bi-pod. I was just thinking a harris. But they make different models. Should I buy the benchrest or the L model(bench/prone)? Solid base or 45 degree?
Any thoughts? Thanks for helping a newbie.
 
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Very nice, I like it!! I think no bi-pod for now. Most of my shooting will be off a range bag anyway so really no need. That's a pretty neat bubble level and angle finder. What brand is that?
 
#20
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kg4mon</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I was also looking at the EGW scope base. I like their stuff real well. I've bought a ton of their 1911 parts. Would I need an extended version?</div></div>

I use an EGW 15 MOA base on my .270 WIN and it works fine, and it was a lot cheaper than the NF one I bought for the 5R. Burris signature zee rings are a nice addition too (if you can get your hands on them!).

PeterN suggested a Jewell trigger. I have one on my 300 WIN Mag and it is nice indeed, but I took Rob01's suggestion and went for a Timney on the 5R ... it's ~ $150 less and you can put it on yourself.
 
#21
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Congrats on the rem 5R. I just got one in .223.

Shoots great, after 30+ rounds to get it broken in. The factory X mark trigger is GREAT- once you take 2 simple steps.

1. order a spring from this man.
http://erniethegunsmith.com/catalog/i181.html $9.00 or so shipped.

2. Install it, and back off your "user adjustable" spring 1 full turn. Takes all of 5 minutes.
Night and day difference. Check for safety features, etc. No need to adjust sear. Enjoy your new rifle.

 
#22
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NF rings (with NF dedicated cosign and bubble top ring). (I already had the cosign indicator). The scope is a Zeiss Victory and with the mounts cost twice that of the rifle.

Again, the 5R shoots so well you can spend what you would have spent on a custom rifle on the extras and ammunition. My combination will take the 308 as far as it can go, and as far as my marksmanship for judging external factors, read wind, allows.
 
#24
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: PappaSniper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I love my 5r. I wish Remmy would make one in .223 , threaded like their 308.
Maybe at shot? And or a 300 WM THREADED. </div></div>
They make all three of those calibers threaded.
 
#25
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Just picked up my new 5R this morning. 20 moa NF steel base coming on ups today and some 168 FGMM ammo. What a great day. Too bad it's raining here. Oh well, maybe saturday. Still haven't decided about a scope yet. About 400 bucks all I got left.
 
#26
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I'm not one for a full "shooting in" regime other than giving the new rifle a thorough clean before I start to shoot it; to get any factory gunk out of it. Another good clean after the first 10 rounds or so which you can do when getting the scope roughly on target. Then clean as you see fit.

Glass wise start saving! Some of the second hand stuff is good value so long as it is from a top maker: NF, S&B etc... A Zeiss Conquest would be my start line... Bushnel 6500??? Everyone has their own angle on it. x16 is plenty and you never need more than x25.. well not for this kit. Out to 400m a fixed 10x would work fine. If you buy second hand then when you want to upgrade its less of a loss. You'll find out soon enough what works for you.
 
#27
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+1 on the "not one for a full 'shooting in' regime" since this is a hammer-forged tube (little to no tooling marks) and stainless steel to boot. I had one and it hardly fouled at all. Clean it when you get it and then whenever accuracy drops off (about 200 rounds).

As for bedding the base, it's a "soft" bed using blue loctite, not an epoxy. I'd scope it with a SS 5-20 for what you want to do. Or see what SWFA comes out with that might be in the 3-12 or 4-16 range.
 
#28
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Well I'm sitting here petting on my new rifle and decided to mount the NF base on it. I was surprised, I don't think it needs bedding. I snugged the front screws and the back was still flat no gaps, further more I just snugged all the screws down and couldn't get a .002 thickness feeler gauge under any part of it. I was kinda of disappointed with the screw holes in the base being slotted just alittle over size. But I guess I could pin or dowel the mount. Or does this really matter?
 
#29
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Someone will have another method but as already done should be fine. Some use some locktite threadlock or screw hold type semi permanent glue (the stuff to stop screws coming undone). The custom boys sometimes rethread the whole thing to put in larger screws. People think over engineering everything is the only way to go but if it ain't broke don't worry. I think the front and back screws are different depths; just make sure they are the right way round.

Same goes for scope rings, so long as everything is held nice and firm then it will work. Rings should compliment the weight of the scope (and try to get the scope as low as possible).

I use a drop of correcting fluid, the white stuff, to see if there is any movement. A blob between joints and then once dry if it cracks in use something might be up.

Just take your time and ensure every screw/bolt threads correctly and squarely. Torque to a sensible level; I stop when the hex tool shaft starts to flex and before the thread would start to strip. Try to do it evenly.

Again every one has their own way. My mounts and scopes tend to stay as first fixed for years. So once done well leave them alone.
 
#30
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Scottx88</div><div class="ubbcode-body">5R with 20MOA NF base and Burris Signatures 5.5-22x50 NPR1 Zero-Stop.
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What is the height on those rings Sir?
 
#35
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First time poster here, I've been lurking about a year and finally decided to get active on these forums. There is a great deal of information here.

Congrats on your purchase. I have had a 5R in .308 for almost two years now and am very happy with it. I'm running a 20 MOA Leupold MK 4 base, medium MK4 rings, with a MK4 3.5-10 TMR. As was stated above, the amount of internal adjustment on whatever scope you eventually purchase is vital to your ability to get to 1,000 yards while maintaining a 100 yard zero. If $400 is your absolute max for optics consider the SWFA SS, they have a 120 MOA of adjustment IIRC and pretty decent optics.
 
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+1 on the SWFA SS scopes. I know a lot of people doubt the "120" MOA, however I just got my new one (20x42) the other day and I checked it out- currently from my 100yd zero- I have 58 MOA up and 60 MOA down. I don't know about you- but I'm not crying over 2 MOA. Ran two box tests on it- perfect.
 
#37
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I was looking at those and their getting great reviews. Just saving my money right now. Everything I want seems to be out of reach at the moment. I'll get there before spring though. How do you figure the height of the scope rings that you need? I would want them as low as possible.
 
#38
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I've had a 5R for almost two years now. Great shooting .308. Before I got my NF on it, I had a leftover Tasco mounted on top. Seemed to shoot ok up to about 20 or 30 rounds. After that I noticed my reticle was canted. Don't have that issue with the NF.

Might look at the Nikon Buckmaster line of glass if you're looking for under $400. I got one of the 4-14 models w/ mildot for around $200 (I think) on SWFA's sample list. For the money, its awesome.
 
#39
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kg4mon</div><div class="ubbcode-body">... How do you figure the height of the scope rings that you need? I would want them as low as possible. </div></div>

Go to the Rifle scopes section- there is a sticky labeled "Ring Height Info- How to measure..." (its the 4th sticky down I believe). All the information you'll ever need on ring height.
 
#40
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Welcome to the world of "700 5-R" owners. I've had mine for almost 4 years now and it will be the last of my rifles to go if I have to sell any. The Remington Custom Shop guarantees their rifles to shoot 1/2" or less. This one shoots .250 groups regularly and costs about half of what most of their "Custom's" do.

As for bedding the scope base, Ken Farrell bases ship with instructions to bed. It's simple. Wax the top of the action with some Kiwi neutral colored shoe polish or Johnson's Floor Wax paste. Also wax the threads and head of the screws. Put a small amount of J-B Weld (ordinary, not quick set) on the bottom of the scope base and secure lightly with all the screws. I left an area around the screws free of the J-B Weld so there was none squished into the mounting holes when I installed the screws. When screwing in the screws, tighten just enough to displace extra epoxy and after a few minutes, loosen, then re-tighten until the heads just touch the base. After the epoxy cures a while and is still "rubber like" remove the excess with a scraper made from a plastic knife. Let cure for 24 hours and then tighten the mount screws, preferably with a torque wrench to about 2 inch lbs.

While it's not absolutely necessary to bed a scope base/rail, it makes the overall installation more accurate and resistant to recoil/damage.
 
#41
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Well to say the least I'm disappointed in my luck with the scope mounting. I was trying to use one of my old junk scopes just to test fire the gun, because of no budget for new right now. The first wouldn't fit because it was too short and the obj lens 50mm hit the NF rail. The second fit fine an could get the proper eye relief but when I went to bore sight it, it didn't have enough adjustment to even align the cross hairs on the grid.
WTF!!! I guess the 20 moa is screwing it up. Yes I know, cheap scopes. But hey, I was exicted to do some shooting. I guess my credit card is going to be smoking before long.
 
#42
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: WCW308</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Congrats on the rem 5R. I just got one in .223.
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What's the twist and thread-pitch on the 5R 223?
 
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