New steel cases ...

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Whats the objective? To keep any one else from designing or advancing besides them . Lol seems like a joe biden generic pardon for anyone who might in the future do somthing evil.
 

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So no difference from any of the other hybrid cases of late.
They want to run retard pressures to make up for a smaller case design to run with the big dogs.
Considering my face is right over that explosion I would just run a larger cartridge at lower pressures.
 
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No they want to keep any one else from making or designing high pressure cases of any design besides them . High presdure cases are not new. High pressure is the future of the industry. There plans are to build all calibers and sizes. .
 
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No they want to keep any one else from making or designing high pressure cases of any design besides them . High presdure cases are not new. High pressure is the future of the industry. There plans are to build all calibers and sizes. .
You are completely wrong on that, running cases at 80,000 psi is a fairly new affair and not something that most will adopt.
Lug set back and accelerated barrel wear from those pressures are something to consider and most that are smart enough to realize that it's a shitty trade off.
For people that enjoy shooting often the short barrel life of running at those pressures will be toast for the fuds that might shoot 10 rounds a year for hunting purposes maybe.
 
WRT the patent- Thanks for including the pat no OP, comes right up on search. Seems pretty standard. "We did some research, and we'd like to protect the IP we came up with" is kind of the point of patents. The interesting bit will be what actually sees production or is licensed. I'd imagine some of the case head/primer pocket geometry changes could be implemented fairly quickly/easily; but is the juice worth the squeeze to load for existing platforms?

WRT the thread title - I thought this would be like the CNC'd cases that were floating around a few years ago, but I think that would have been considered 'prior art.' The patent mentions cases and case heads made of steel or brass, but seems more like a loophole cover than defining feature. I don't know, I'm not a lawyer.
 
WRT the patent- Thanks for including the pat no OP, comes right up on search. Seems pretty standard. "We did some research, and we'd like to protect the IP we came up with" is kind of the point of patents. The interesting bit will be what actually sees production or is licensed. I'd imagine some of the case head/primer pocket geometry changes could be implemented fairly quickly/easily; but is the juice worth the squeeze to load for existing platforms?

WRT the thread title - I thought this would be like the CNC'd cases that were floating around a few years ago, but I think that would have been considered 'prior art.' The patent mentions cases and case heads made of steel or brass, but seems more like a loophole cover than defining feature. I don't know, I'm not a lawyer.
Existing platforms do limit useable applications. Generic list of possibilities in the future to keep any one from advancing the modern cartridge is not patenable with out a product or prototype many of those designs are currently used by the industry. . Patens are to protect designs not the passabliliy of designs of anything that someone might do in the future.
 
You are completely wrong on that, running cases at 80,000 psi is a fairly new affair and not something that most will adopt.
Lug set back and accelerated barrel wear from those pressures are something to consider and most that are smart enough to realize that it's a shitty trade off.
For people that enjoy shooting often the short barrel life of running at those pressures will be toast for the fuds that might shoot 10 rounds a year for hunting purposes maybe.
Reading your comment reminds me of the quote. I'll never give up my horse.. nothing advances if we all are stuck in the past . Barrels, actions ,powders etc. If your happy with what you have . I am happy for you.
 
WRT the patent- Thanks for including the pat no OP, comes right up on search. Seems pretty standard. "We did some research, and we'd like to protect the IP we came up with" is kind of the point of patents. The interesting bit will be what actually sees production or is licensed. I'd imagine some of the case head/primer pocket geometry changes could be implemented fairly quickly/easily; but is the juice worth the squeeze to load for existing platforms?

WRT the thread title - I thought this would be like the CNC'd cases that were floating around a few years ago, but I think that would have been considered 'prior art.' The patent mentions cases and case heads made of steel or brass, but seems more like a loophole cover than defining feature. I don't know, I'm not a lawyer.
What i find intristing is several of there comments in abstract section are designs that already exist and are used in conventional drawn cases and several were used by my self in cnc mechined cases. Attempting to controil any one from making high pressure cases. They also mentioned a prosess of staked primers. That is a mandate for military spect sence ww2 . And used by all companies that make mill spect ammo
they mentioned thicker primer walls. Thicker then what all primers are different wall thickness. You cant make generic mandates when nothing is quantified. When you have money you can pay any one to approve what ever you put in a patent.