Ok, so back when I was 18 (22 now) I bought a remington model 700 cdl in .270 for hunting. I have recently decided to try my hand at shooting around 500-600 yards, and moving up from there into long range competitions. When i use high dollar bullets i can shoot good groups at 150-200 yards with just a blanket/pillow on a bench. I've read up on this and everyone says worry about optics the most. Should i sell this gun and get it in a larger caliber and diff stock (synthetic so it'll last longer). Or, just get a good scope and a good bench rest and see where it takes me?
new to long range, .270 model 700 good starter?
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Re: new to long range, .270 model 700 good starter?
Definitely optics and good accessories. The rifle will be fine. You need shooting time. The optics will eliminate a large variable. A good rest is always useful. Most guys shoot with a bipod and rear bag, if they are not shooting from a bench. I prefer on the ground with the pod. You don't need a bench and can shoot anywhere.
Definitely optics and good accessories. The rifle will be fine. You need shooting time. The optics will eliminate a large variable. A good rest is always useful. Most guys shoot with a bipod and rear bag, if they are not shooting from a bench. I prefer on the ground with the pod. You don't need a bench and can shoot anywhere.
Re: new to long range, .270 model 700 good starter?
stick with it and get some time done behind it. .270 ammo should be fairly cheap/easy to get. use it for test: try different positions; test cheek-weld; check recoil; try ammo; use it for reloading tests; ...
also ... you can get a good scope at any stage, use it on that rifle, and transfer it later on to a new rifle.
stick with it and get some time done behind it. .270 ammo should be fairly cheap/easy to get. use it for test: try different positions; test cheek-weld; check recoil; try ammo; use it for reloading tests; ...
also ... you can get a good scope at any stage, use it on that rifle, and transfer it later on to a new rifle.
Re: new to long range, .270 model 700 good starter?
270 Winchester is a classic long-range hunting caliber.
You can load the .277 150gr Berger VLD (BC .531) or 150gr Hornady SST (BC .525) @ 2800fps, or the 140gr Accubond (BC .496) @ 2900fps, and *easily* get to 600yd.
In fact, at 1000yd any of the above will outperform the "long range standard" 308 Winchester with 175 SMK (BC .505) @ 2700fps.
270 Winchester is a classic long-range hunting caliber.
You can load the .277 150gr Berger VLD (BC .531) or 150gr Hornady SST (BC .525) @ 2800fps, or the 140gr Accubond (BC .496) @ 2900fps, and *easily* get to 600yd.
In fact, at 1000yd any of the above will outperform the "long range standard" 308 Winchester with 175 SMK (BC .505) @ 2700fps.
Re: new to long range, .270 model 700 good starter?
.270 is a pretty solid round but just doesn't have the best selection of target bullets.
.270 is a pretty solid round but just doesn't have the best selection of target bullets.
Re: new to long range, .270 model 700 good starter?
I shoot a Winchester Model 70 Featherweight in 270. I started playing with the 150 grn Bergers and find they are great for long range. I get a MV of 2883 out of my gun.
I don't hunt past 300 yards but I do like to play at longer ranges, granted being a featherweight, I don't get a lot of shots off before it starts walking, but until then its fine.
You wont be at any great disavantage using the 270 Win.
I shoot a Winchester Model 70 Featherweight in 270. I started playing with the 150 grn Bergers and find they are great for long range. I get a MV of 2883 out of my gun.
I don't hunt past 300 yards but I do like to play at longer ranges, granted being a featherweight, I don't get a lot of shots off before it starts walking, but until then its fine.
You wont be at any great disavantage using the 270 Win.
Re: new to long range, .270 model 700 good starter?
The .270 is a classic hunting cartridge.
It is not, however, a long range accuracy cartridge.
There are very few match bullets made for it, most of the match bullets in .270 are lightweight 6.8 spc bullets.
There are no factory match loadings available.
You will absolutely have to reload.
From where I sit, you have a couple of choices.
option 1:
Buy the good glass, base and rings and start shooting.
Eventually upgrade the stock. HS precision and B&C make long action stocks with aluminum bedding blocks that won't break the bank.
You don't say if it is am ADL or BDL model, if an ADL, you will probably upgrade to either a BDL (about 150 bucks if memory serves) or a DBM.
Eventually, when you have recovered your pocketbook from the glass and stock, send the action off to a smith and have it trued and a match frade barrel of a more suitable caliber installed. .284, 6.5x55, 30'06, .280 or even .308 or .260. This will set you back another 800-900 bones.
Option 2:
Sell the .270 and buy a rifle more suited out of the box.
A remington SPS tactical, AAC-SD or SPS varmint, add in a B&C stock, total outlay from 750 to 850 minus whatever you sell your rifle for.
There is also the 700P or the 5R, but the price begins climbing.
There are also NUMEROUS suitable savages in 6.5 CM, .260 and .308. Stick witht the accu stock or HS precision models and there is no need for a stock upgrade.
Option 1 will net you a much finer rifle. Option two will give you immediate gratification of shooting very respectable groups with calibers that have match ammo available over the counter.
Even if you go with option 2, you will eventually have the action trued and a match barrel put on. Option one just cuts the chase down a bit.
The .270 is a classic hunting cartridge.
It is not, however, a long range accuracy cartridge.
There are very few match bullets made for it, most of the match bullets in .270 are lightweight 6.8 spc bullets.
There are no factory match loadings available.
You will absolutely have to reload.
From where I sit, you have a couple of choices.
option 1:
Buy the good glass, base and rings and start shooting.
Eventually upgrade the stock. HS precision and B&C make long action stocks with aluminum bedding blocks that won't break the bank.
You don't say if it is am ADL or BDL model, if an ADL, you will probably upgrade to either a BDL (about 150 bucks if memory serves) or a DBM.
Eventually, when you have recovered your pocketbook from the glass and stock, send the action off to a smith and have it trued and a match frade barrel of a more suitable caliber installed. .284, 6.5x55, 30'06, .280 or even .308 or .260. This will set you back another 800-900 bones.
Option 2:
Sell the .270 and buy a rifle more suited out of the box.
A remington SPS tactical, AAC-SD or SPS varmint, add in a B&C stock, total outlay from 750 to 850 minus whatever you sell your rifle for.
There is also the 700P or the 5R, but the price begins climbing.
There are also NUMEROUS suitable savages in 6.5 CM, .260 and .308. Stick witht the accu stock or HS precision models and there is no need for a stock upgrade.
Option 1 will net you a much finer rifle. Option two will give you immediate gratification of shooting very respectable groups with calibers that have match ammo available over the counter.
Even if you go with option 2, you will eventually have the action trued and a match barrel put on. Option one just cuts the chase down a bit.
Re: new to long range, .270 model 700 good starter?
If you are going to go through the trouble to build a gun from the ground up then pass on the .270win. If you already have one then your go-to bullet is the 150gr VLD from Berger. Fill the case with H-4831 and get to shooting.
If you are going to go through the trouble to build a gun from the ground up then pass on the .270win. If you already have one then your go-to bullet is the 150gr VLD from Berger. Fill the case with H-4831 and get to shooting.
Re: new to long range, .270 model 700 good starter?
The best long range STARTER is the one you already own.
There's nothing wrong with a Rem 700 .270 at all, it's not like you're trying 600 yds with a sporterized Carcano, that rifle is more than great for your purposes.
Use a scope you already own or buy some inexpensive glass and just start throwing massive amounts of lead downrange.
Don't try to make it an investment level hobby until you've tried it with what you have, are still interested, but now feel the equipment HAS to be upgraded.
The best long range STARTER is the one you already own.
There's nothing wrong with a Rem 700 .270 at all, it's not like you're trying 600 yds with a sporterized Carcano, that rifle is more than great for your purposes.
Use a scope you already own or buy some inexpensive glass and just start throwing massive amounts of lead downrange.
Don't try to make it an investment level hobby until you've tried it with what you have, are still interested, but now feel the equipment HAS to be upgraded.
Re: new to long range, .270 model 700 good starter?
Hey guys thanks for the advice. I decided on getting a couple different boxes of the ammo yall suggested and a harris bipod. Figure i will see how far out i can reach with what i have now, and then upgrade from there.
Hey guys thanks for the advice. I decided on getting a couple different boxes of the ammo yall suggested and a harris bipod. Figure i will see how far out i can reach with what i have now, and then upgrade from there.
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