I just purchased a new base rifle (Remington 700 ADL heavy varmit barrel) with the cheap plastic stock and throw away scope. I'm on a very tight budget and need to spend no more than $1,000.00 all in for the gun, stock and optics. I understand for this price that I'm not going to build a top of the line rifle, but I'm using it for hunting and paper punching, so a $4k dollar rig isn't needed. For my budget, what's the best stock and optics I can purchase that will allow me to shoot MOA or maybe sub MOA out to 400-600 yards?
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You can get the plastic stock to work fine with some "do it yourself" work. Take a look at this thread:
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthre...675#Post1323675
The gentleman lays it out in detail and I did the same thing with a wood dowel and Brownell's glass bedding. You can also pillar bed the action (again Brownell's has it all). You can't really screw up, as all it takes is reading the instructions, hand tools and your time.
As for optics, lots of folks really like the Bushnell 3200 10X and I recently bought two Muller 8-25x50s which amazed me with the quality for the price. I got them at a bankruptcy sale and am keeping one and selling one.
See: http://www.snipershide.com/forum
/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Main=119525&Number=1319884#Post1319884
You did the right thing. Spend your money on ammo and start reloading. The guy with the $1000 rig who spends $5000 on ammo is usually a better shot than the guy with the $5000 rifle and $1000 worth of ammo.
Welcome aboard & Good shooting!
You can get the plastic stock to work fine with some "do it yourself" work. Take a look at this thread:
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthre...675#Post1323675
The gentleman lays it out in detail and I did the same thing with a wood dowel and Brownell's glass bedding. You can also pillar bed the action (again Brownell's has it all). You can't really screw up, as all it takes is reading the instructions, hand tools and your time.
As for optics, lots of folks really like the Bushnell 3200 10X and I recently bought two Muller 8-25x50s which amazed me with the quality for the price. I got them at a bankruptcy sale and am keeping one and selling one.
See: http://www.snipershide.com/forum
/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Main=119525&Number=1319884#Post1319884
You did the right thing. Spend your money on ammo and start reloading. The guy with the $1000 rig who spends $5000 on ammo is usually a better shot than the guy with the $5000 rifle and $1000 worth of ammo.
Welcome aboard & Good shooting!
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Does the rifle have sights mounted on it? I don't recall ANY ADL having a heavy bbl? Spending 150-200 on a H&S stock is a great start in adding repeatable precision to that rifle. You would always be able to get your money back out of it if you want to upgrade to something else.
Most any optics would be good, if you are wanting to save money go with something like Burris XTR base/rings and the above mentioned 3200 10x would be a great choice or a Super Sniper 10x or 16x.
Even if it isn't a heavy bbl then convert it later. Same for the bbl. It is easy to get there for 1000. Then just get used to it and get out and practice.
Hope this helps,
Mark
Does the rifle have sights mounted on it? I don't recall ANY ADL having a heavy bbl? Spending 150-200 on a H&S stock is a great start in adding repeatable precision to that rifle. You would always be able to get your money back out of it if you want to upgrade to something else.
Most any optics would be good, if you are wanting to save money go with something like Burris XTR base/rings and the above mentioned 3200 10x would be a great choice or a Super Sniper 10x or 16x.
Even if it isn't a heavy bbl then convert it later. Same for the bbl. It is easy to get there for 1000. Then just get used to it and get out and practice.
Hope this helps,
Mark
Re: Newbie question
Find a different stock, like the H&S, or a used B&C or manners and then any of the above mentioned scopes will work. Find one in your price range YOU like and spend the rest on ammo. Worry about the rest later and you can do minor then up to major improvements as you start to get better and feel a need for them. Leave the barrel alone and shoot it. Have fun and post some pics! -Dan
Find a different stock, like the H&S, or a used B&C or manners and then any of the above mentioned scopes will work. Find one in your price range YOU like and spend the rest on ammo. Worry about the rest later and you can do minor then up to major improvements as you start to get better and feel a need for them. Leave the barrel alone and shoot it. Have fun and post some pics! -Dan
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I appreciate the feedback. This 700 ADL does have the heavy varmit barrel. It's my understanding that this rifle was the predecessor to the 700 SPS. Dick's sporting goods had a sale on these rifles for $459.00 and I had a gift card that put me in @ $409.00 total. The rifle is not equiped with iron sights, but is drilled and tapped for a scope. I did invest in reloading equipment when I purchased my AR last year, so I ordered a set of .308 dies and will start working up some loads.
I appreciate the feedback. This 700 ADL does have the heavy varmit barrel. It's my understanding that this rifle was the predecessor to the 700 SPS. Dick's sporting goods had a sale on these rifles for $459.00 and I had a gift card that put me in @ $409.00 total. The rifle is not equiped with iron sights, but is drilled and tapped for a scope. I did invest in reloading equipment when I purchased my AR last year, so I ordered a set of .308 dies and will start working up some loads.
Re: Newbie question
Follow Mr. Humble's direction, you will get a lot more enjoyment and learn how to shoot your gun.
Follow Mr. Humble's direction, you will get a lot more enjoyment and learn how to shoot your gun.
Re: Newbie question
I assume its a .308 then. The advise here is sound. Learn to shoot it. Not saying you dont know how to shoot, but you must become familiar with the rifle, and after a thousand rounds you will be able to tell where you need to put money. A good start though is the optics. EGW 20moa base is about $40. Bushnell Elite 3200 mildot $190. 1" Burris Xtreme rings about $48. So at least your optics are within a budget, you can go cheaper, but this is a proven setup. Your rifle probably has a 2 piece weaver base. Thats all I have left on my rifle, got the 3200 and millet rings. It works for now. All I have shot out to is 650 yds so far. I am still learning.
One of my experiences was with the factory stock. It flexed a lot at the forend, but did well after I bedded it and free floated the action. The biggest issue was it is a hunting stock. Not very comfortable for me to shoot prone for long. I upgraded it to a Stockade varmint/tactical. $375 and a 4+ month wait. I am very happy with it. Its pillar bedded, I bedded the cation to it, the rifle as is shoots an inch or less. I am also doing load developing, so the "or less" groups come from the 178 AMAXs with 59.5gr of RL22 right around .75". The other loads I have made are usually around an inch, to 1.25. This is all with the factory Sporter barrel. I think once its properly rebarreled it will be improved a lot. Hope this helps.
I assume its a .308 then. The advise here is sound. Learn to shoot it. Not saying you dont know how to shoot, but you must become familiar with the rifle, and after a thousand rounds you will be able to tell where you need to put money. A good start though is the optics. EGW 20moa base is about $40. Bushnell Elite 3200 mildot $190. 1" Burris Xtreme rings about $48. So at least your optics are within a budget, you can go cheaper, but this is a proven setup. Your rifle probably has a 2 piece weaver base. Thats all I have left on my rifle, got the 3200 and millet rings. It works for now. All I have shot out to is 650 yds so far. I am still learning.
One of my experiences was with the factory stock. It flexed a lot at the forend, but did well after I bedded it and free floated the action. The biggest issue was it is a hunting stock. Not very comfortable for me to shoot prone for long. I upgraded it to a Stockade varmint/tactical. $375 and a 4+ month wait. I am very happy with it. Its pillar bedded, I bedded the cation to it, the rifle as is shoots an inch or less. I am also doing load developing, so the "or less" groups come from the 178 AMAXs with 59.5gr of RL22 right around .75". The other loads I have made are usually around an inch, to 1.25. This is all with the factory Sporter barrel. I think once its properly rebarreled it will be improved a lot. Hope this helps.
Re: Newbie question
If you are wanting to spend your $1000 on equipment, then optics would be the first place to invest I think. Next would be stock. And don't forget to get the trigger worked on. I would keep the factory trigger and have a competent smith work it over and adjust it down to about 2.5 lbs (my preference).
However, if you are just starting out in precision shooting, then shooting is the first step. You can bed the rifle to the current stock yourself if you're handy, and get the trigger adjusted. Get the above scope, and spend the rest on ammo or reloading components. Then as you get more experienced and start to realize the parts that are limiting you, you can save up and upgrade those parts as needed. Eventually, you could even get the action trued up and a match barrel put on.
Good luck and have fun!
If you are wanting to spend your $1000 on equipment, then optics would be the first place to invest I think. Next would be stock. And don't forget to get the trigger worked on. I would keep the factory trigger and have a competent smith work it over and adjust it down to about 2.5 lbs (my preference).
However, if you are just starting out in precision shooting, then shooting is the first step. You can bed the rifle to the current stock yourself if you're handy, and get the trigger adjusted. Get the above scope, and spend the rest on ammo or reloading components. Then as you get more experienced and start to realize the parts that are limiting you, you can save up and upgrade those parts as needed. Eventually, you could even get the action trued up and a match barrel put on.
Good luck and have fun!
