Rifle Scopes Nightforce "new" reticle for LPVO? FC-DMx

[dms416]

(haven't seen this mentioned)

Apparently NightForce "Gon give it to ya"...a less sucky LPVO reticle than their initial circle-dot

https://www.nightforceoptics.com/fileadmin/user_upload/Reticle_Spec_Sheets/NF_FC-DMx.pdf

 

[st1650]

not available on the NX8 I guess ?

 

[krimet]

I think I dig it. Planning to upgrade my short to mid range hunting scope this year. This might make the ATACR 1-8 a good choice.

 

[TonyTheTiger]

Looks like their best LPVO reticle yet.

 

[Ndbowhunter]

Yup, that’s a lot better. Now put it in the nx8

 

[SBRSarge]

Heresy, I know, but I’d like to see this in a second focal plane 1-8x NX8.

I don’t use the ranging capability and would like an almost holographic view with a larger reticle at 1x. I have an older Millett Designated Marksman scope that I use like a holo sight and love it.

 

[TacticalPlinker]

Looks like their best LPVO reticle yet.

Agreed. My main bitch about the original was that the 1 mil holdover typically used for 300 yd on a 5.56 was a cluttered FOV. This new design opens up the whole workspace at 1mil ... I also love the additional holds above centerline . Good shit right there.

 

[Ndbowhunter]

Heresy, I know, but I’d like to see this in a second focal plane 1-8x NX8.

I don’t use the ranging capability and would like an almost holographic view with a larger reticle at 1x. I have an older Millett Designated Marksman scope that I use like a holo sight and love it.

Problem tho is the reticle is worthless then between 1 and 8x... with 24mm objective i’ll Pass on that. At least with the one I had the nx8 was best at about 6-6.5x for taking longer shots in terms of eyebox and view but the reticle wasn’t very good at that mag setting.

 

[CrabsandFootball]

Not available in the NX8.
NF still doing NF shit.

And they wonder why the Gen 3 razors outsell them 10 to 1.

 

[mrtoyz]

Not available in the NX8.
NF still doing NF shit.

And they wonder why the Gen 3 razors outsell them 10 to 1.

Agree. This needs to be in the NX8 at the current price point

 

[dms416]

People still give a fuck about the nx8 1-8?
Huh...interesting

 

[mrtoyz]

People still give a fuck about the nx8 1-8?
Huh...interest

IMO fantastic size, weight. With the right reticle I can live with the tight eyebox.

 

[hypno02]

When I saw this my first thought was dang--good improvement. I want that in my ATACR.

But on second thought when you remove all that "mass" from the donut is the 1x red dot performance going to suffer? (aka be less bright?)

It'll be interesting to see.

FC-DM for reference

 

[TacticalPlinker]

When I saw this my first thought was dang--good improvement. I want that in my ATACR.

But on second thought when you remove all that "mass" from the donut is the 1x red dot performance going to suffer? (aka be less bright?)

It'll be interesting to see.

FC-DM for reference

I thought the same thing. I'm willing to give up a small amount of brightness for a better all-around package. But it still needs to be daylight bright to pass

 

[NHR]

The new ring, while less bold, is larger in diameter(4mil vs 2mil) which should help at 1x.

 

[Shootin Stuff]

I'd like to see a few more dual plane reticles out there.

Put that big red ring on the 2nd and the grid on the 1st, now that would be kick ass.

 

[CrabsandFootball]

Bushnell was working on a DFP LPV years ago but i guess they couldn't figure it out so they shitcanned the idea.

 

[TacticalPlinker]

I'd like to see a few more dual plane reticles out there.

Put that big red ring on the 2nd and the grid on the 1st, now that would be kick ass.

March is looking like top dog in that race

 

[mrtoyz]

I'd like to see a few more dual plane reticles out there.

Put that big red ring on the 2nd and the grid on the 1st, now that would be kick ass.

It does work well. I've got a S&B dual. Really like it, but damn its big. My hope is that the industry continues to expand on smaller, lighter weight dual options.

 

[smarcus]

March is looking like top dog in that race

I'd love to see a review on the March vs the Vortex.

 

[dms416]

It does work well. I've got a S&B dual. Really like it, but damn its big. My hope is that the industry continues to expand on smaller, lighter weight dual options.

I've said it for years, rather than always trying to push the magnification top end limits and get dicey results for the initial years, I would much rather see an attempt to make an optic that doesn't suck in the NX8 footprint or smaller. A less than 1lb 1-6x that doesn't suck...or how about a badass 3/4lb 1-4x full on variable.

 

[Burdy]

They did a great job on improving over the NX8 reticle here. I hated the crowded donut on the NX8 and was one of the reasons I sold mine. This reticle looks good and should be a perfect fit for the optics intent.

 

[Burdy]

It does work well. I've got a S&B dual. Really like it, but damn its big. My hope is that the industry continues to expand on smaller, lighter weight dual options.

Is it 22 or 24 ounces? Sources differ.

 

[mrtoyz]

Is it 22 or 24 ounces? Sources differ.

It’s mounted in a Scalaworks. I’ll weigh them together when I get a chance.

 

[scwhit]

Sorry if I missed it, but has it been stated somewhere that it is only for the ATACR and will not be offered on the NX8?

Nm, I am an idiot I see it now.

 

[charnicus]

Anyone got time behind the FC-DMx?

 

[CWhite0977]

I'm so very close to pulling the trigger on one. Might even trade in my NX8 1-8 for it, gotta see how much EuroOptic would give me for it. I just wanna see what that 1x "dot" really looks like.

If I do ill be running to this sub to post all the pictures I can.

 

[charnicus]

It was a tough call for me between the FC-DMx and EBR-9 but I went with the NF as of this morning.

 

[_Windrider_]

I like it. Although I hate it when the tree starts right at 0. Start it at 2 mils keep that center less cluttered. I’m really hoping nightforce matches vortex and offers a 1-10. Would be a killer scope on one of DMRs

 

[charnicus]

Very much agree. I like the way that NF opened up the center the way they did vs just shrinking the center dot. Very defined aiming point over the death donut. Vortex too has a .2 center but from pictures I still get distracted. I think it would remain more open in comparison below max power.

 

[st1650]

Exactly, why would you need 2 mil of windage dots at 1&2 mil of elevation ... Should start the 2 mil of wind at 3&4 mil of elevation.

That being said, I do like the hold under dots.

I like it. Although I hate it when the tree starts right at 0. Start it at 2 mils keep that center less cluttered. I’m really hoping nightforce matches vortex and offers a 1-10. Would be a killer scope on one of DMRs

 

[CWhite0977]

I like it. Although I hate it when the tree starts right at 0. Start it at 2 mils keep that center less cluttered. I’m really hoping nightforce matches vortex and offers a 1-10. Would be a killer scope on one of DMRs

Gotta decent picture of the reticle at 1x for viewing pleasure?

 

[NGCSUGrad09]

Exactly, why would you need 2 mil of windage dots at 1&2 mil of elevation ... Should start the 2 mil of wind at 3&4 mil of elevation.

That being said, I do like the hold under dots.

Movers and some places have a lot of wind.

 

[charnicus]

Mine showed up today. Hopefully these pictures are decent enough... I think I’m a happy camper. It’s funny, the manual doesn’t even reflect the new reticle yet.

 

[_Windrider_]

They should have illuminated the tree as well and started it just below the circle But I still like it

 

[charnicus]

Like what Schmidt did to a degree where you either get the dot or get the a large portion of the reticle. It would be neat if the tree lit up too.

 

[dms416]

...then you would have a blob of shit illuminated on 1x and defeating that purpose on the low end.

 

[TacticalPlinker]

Mine showed up today. Hopefully these pictures are decent enough... I think I’m a happy camper. It’s funny, the manual doesn’t even reflect the new reticle yet.

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Thanks for taking the time to do this. Personal request can you please try and make another go at the 1X with illumination. Really can't see anything in that shot

 

[charnicus]

Thanks for taking the time to do this. Personal request can you please try and make another go at the 1X with illumination. Really can't see anything in that shot

How’s this?

 

[TacticalPlinker]

How’s this?

NAILED IT ! Thanks

 

[charnicus]

NAILED IT ! Thanks

No problem.

 

[smarcus]

Any comparisons between this ATACR and the dual plane March 1-10 shorty?

 

[RayDBonz]

So glad mine has the original reticle!

 

[sharpshooter82]

from the photos at 1x its looks terrible ! not a complete dot like the old one. It looks something you would see in cheap airsoft clone ! can anyone post a photo of the new reticle again at 1x with the illumination on

 

[dms416]

from the photos at 1x its looks terrible ! not a complete dot like the old one. It looks something you would see in cheap airsoft clone ! can anyone post a photo of the new reticle again at 1x with the illumination on

Through the scope photos rarely give you a real feel for what’s going on. Some are good at taking the pics, most aren’t.

Honestly given the way NF does the bottom end, what the fuck are people expecting? If you want an Aimpoint bottom end and a precision rifle top end, best pony up some S&B level money.

 

[sharpshooter82]

Through the scope photos rarely give you a real feel for what’s going on. Some are good at taking the pics, most aren’t.

Honestly given the way NF does the bottom end, what the fuck are people expecting? If you want an Aimpoint bottom end and a precision rifle top end, best pony up some S&B level money.

have you looked through the new reticle ? i have placed an order through a dealer in here in the UK , i thinking of asking them to get nightforce to put the old reticle in mine (if they will even do it and doesnt cost $300+)

 

[charnicus]

Nightforce is not offering reticle swaps at this time. You’d be better off canceling your order and ordering what you think you want.

 

[Glassaholic]

ATACR FFP 2-10x42 with this reticle... anyone? I like the reticle but not enough MPVO scopes with reticles like this.

 

[charnicus]

If it was done really really really right, I don’t see how it would suck in the 4-16 even. S&B does their MDR T6 in a 3-20 so it’s not uncharted waters.

 

[texag0842]

Glad I have the original however this makes it tough as I was planning to purchase a second and this reticle just doesn't work now.

Guess I buy another S&B 1-8 Dual CC now.