Rifle Scopes Nightforce Zero-stop turrets

[Texas_Republic]

I have been wanting to buy a good turret scope with the zero-stop function, but cant afford to spend 1,800 on a Nightforce. That price is so far out of my price range its funny. I have heard that this function is priceless for turret scopes. What do you guys think?

Does anyone else offer a function like this on another brand of scopes? It doesnt seem that complicated. I am surprised Burris hasnt done this yet. I have owned a Burris ballistic plex and have been very pleased with it so far.

Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated. I would like to get that function on a scope that is "moderately" priced.

 

[Bradley]

Re: Nightforce Zero-stop turrets

Leupold M3

 

[Texas_Republic]

Re: Nightforce Zero-stop turrets

Thanks for the reply Bveal, but I am only seeing Leupold M2 or M4s. Am I missing something or is the M4 model just the same? The M4 model seems to have writing on the turrets. I assume its a zero stop? Excuse my ignorance on this subject. I am still new at the turret feature. I am use to the old school single cross hair method.

 

[Rich Emmons]

Re: Nightforce Zero-stop turrets

buy it without zero stop.. use plastic washer spacers for ZERO STOP, works perfectly for less than a buck, got mine from a guy here on the hide. works for loopys too.

 

[applevalleyjoe]

Re: Nightforce Zero-stop turrets

How much are you willing to pay? The M3 is going to run $1150-1800 depending where you get it. Is a zero stop worth the extra money over power and clarity...I wouldn't think so.

 

[Texas_Republic]

Re: Nightforce Zero-stop turrets

Well the M4 model is about $1200. ha. I was kinda hoping for around 700. The washer spacer idea sounds good, but I have no idea how that would work. I will look into that as well though.

 

[Rich Emmons]

Re: Nightforce Zero-stop turrets

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Texas Republic</div><div class="ubbcode-body">. The washer spacer idea sounds good, but I have no idea how that would work. I will look into that as well though. </div></div>

Take turret off drop in a couple washers put turret back on and SHAM WOW you have Zero stop.

 

[sobrbiker883]

Re: Nightforce Zero-stop turrets

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Texas Republic</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Well the M4 model is about $1200. ha. I was kinda hoping for around 700. The washer spacer idea sounds good, but I have no idea how that would work. I will look into that as well though. </div></div>

By M4 do you mean Mark4? MK4's come in M1 (1/4 moa tall open turrets), and M3 turrets (zero stop, one turn 1 moa per click adjustment on Elevation and 1/2moa per click on windage). I think their new M2 are 1/2moa and I'm not sure if they have a stop or not).

 

[427Cobra]

Re: Nightforce Zero-stop turrets

required no, nice to have, hell yeah, get yourself a 10x super sniper, go shooting, zero the rifle then zero the knobs, from here record how much it takes to completely bottom the elevation knob and return back to zero, I put this number in my logbook, it is repeatable, and cheap

 

[Texas_Republic]

Re: Nightforce Zero-stop turrets

As far as keeping record of what adjustment gets it back to zero...does that mean you have to remember how many MOA clicks you went up or down so you can later return it to the zeroed position? I may just need to get my hands on one of these to make sure I know what the hell I am even saying.

 

[427Cobra]

Re: Nightforce Zero-stop turrets

I don't count clicks, to me that's useless info, my scope is repeatable, as are most, so if it takes 8.75moa or 33.4 to hit the target that's what I dial, counting clicks will confuse and screw you, on my stick, it takes 34.5moa from zero to bottom the elevation knob out mechanically, so if I loose where my zero is I simply dial my scope until the knob hit it stop and dial up 34.5, simple and easy, and I learned this the hard way.

 

[Texas_Republic]

Re: Nightforce Zero-stop turrets

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 427Cobra</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I don't count clicks, to me that's useless info, my scope is repeatable, as are most, so if it takes 8.75moa or 33.4 to hit the target that's what I dial, counting clicks will confuse and screw you, on my stick, it takes 34.5moa from zero to bottom the elevation knob out mechanically, so if I loose where my zero is I simply dial my scope until the knob hit it stop and dial up 34.5, simple and easy, and I learned this the hard way. </div></div>

I think I follow. Maybe. So for example, say your zero (elevation of you sighted in at 200 yds) is at 20.0 MOA. To get back to it each time after you shoot, you just turn the nob all the way down and then count from there until you reach 20.0 MOA?
So before you adjust your MOA to compensate for the elevation for a longer range shot, you re-adjust the bottomed out turret to your orginal zeroed MOA measurement. Once there...adjust the elevation for the shot you are about to take?

I appreciate the help guys. I probably need to go to Academy or something and just familiarize myself more with the way this system works.

 

[Steelhead]

Re: Nightforce Zero-stop turrets

Another option would be to darken the horizontal lines on or underneath your turret (depending on the scope you have). After I zero my scope, I take a pencil and color in all the horizontal indicator lines that are below my zero point. I've also taken a red pencil and colored the indicator line that is my zero point, so I know I need to dial down to it in order to be back at my zero point.

 

[Texas_Republic]

Re: Nightforce Zero-stop turrets

From what I have read, I thought it would be much more difficult to set your moa back to zero for some reason.

No, I dont need it for night shooting. I would just like to have a system that could be easily reset if another shot at a different range was required.

I also want a turret scope because I am hoping to buy Bushmaster's MCR 400 when it FINALLY does come out in 2010. You can switch between calibers within one minute. I am thinking that a turret scope would be good because you can set a different zero adjustment for whatever caliber you are using. One scope, multiple calibers. Most other scopes would be a pain in the butt to use on different calibers and not sight them in individually. For example, I am hoping to get the .308 caliber and the .338 lapua. Each would be for a totally different purpose.
I would think that I could just sight in each caliber and find what moa would zero it in. Then just adjust to it when I switch out calibers. Does that make sense? or sound like it should work?

 

[Texas_Republic]

Re: Nightforce Zero-stop turrets

well what type of scope would work the best for a multiple caliber tactical rifle? It seemed like you would be able to just record what MOAs would be a zero for each caliber. Guess not.

 

[Rob01]

Re: Nightforce Zero-stop turrets

The NF will work fine for what you want to do but just get it without the zero stop if that will make it easier for you. I have a NF F1 that i have on my GAP .308 and I move it to my DPMS LR308 and I have to dial up 4.6 mils for my 100 yard zero on the LR308 as it doesn't have a 20 MOA base. even then i still shoot and check my zero as it could be slightly off by just moving the scope. Also make sure to put the rings in the same slots on both rifles when you move the scope.

When I move it I can either reset the knob to "0" or just remember 4.6 mils is my zero if I don't plan on leaving it on there for long.

I think you are worrying about this and over thinking the whole situation. Rezeroing knobs is not a big deal.

 

[Texas_Republic]

Re: Nightforce Zero-stop turrets

I gotcha. Thats kinda what I was thinking about. However, I am not actually moving the scope onto another rifle. On the MCR, you simply change calibers by switching out the barrel and bolt carrier I believe. Scope stays on the same stock the entire time.

 

[Rob01]

Re: Nightforce Zero-stop turrets

That makes life even easier as your 100 yard zero won't be off much at all.