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Nine-year-old accidentally shoots classmate

KillShot

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How can people be so careless and stupid to allow something like this to happen? When I was a kid, my mom checked my backpack before I left for school to be sure I wasn't taking anything I wasn't supposed to have at school.

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Last Wednesday, a 9-year-old third grader in Bremerton, Washington brought a loaded .45 pistol to school with him in his backpack. He had taken the gun from his mother’s house, and he had told classmates of his plans to run away from home and use the weapon for protection.

Tragically, the gun was cocked and loaded within the boy’s backpack. It accidentally fired and a bullet struck one of the boy’s classmates, an 8-year-old girl, in the stomach.

The young girl is still in critical condition in a Washington hospital, and faces several more surgeries on the way to recovery. The boy was released from jail on bond to the custody of his father.

How many times do we have to hear about tragedies such as this one before parents start taking gun safety seriously? Both of these children are innocent victims in this case, while the woman who allowed her son access to a loaded gun is criminally negligent.

The Second Amendment’s right to bear arms does not include the right to be careless with the operation and safekeeping of firearms, especially in homes with young children. Kids are curious by nature, and they have no real understanding of the consequences of their actions.

If you own guns and have children living in your residence, keep your weapons unloaded and locked away if possible. Also, talk to your children about the dangers of guns, and about the importance of never handling them by themselves.

For people who don’t take the necessary precautions, they are completely to blame for their child’s actions. The mother of the boy in Washington is just as responsible for this incident as if she had fired the gun herself.</div></div>

Source – Tazewell Times
 
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These incidents are exactly what the anti-gun movement uses to villainize all guns and thier owners.

To the mother and father of the kid who took the gun: THANKS A LOT, YOU FUCKING STUPID RETARDS!
 
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This is terrifying as a parent, to think of the things that can happen at school or anywhere else for that matter.
My son is getting to that age, where I could see this kind of thing happening. But me and him have had many talks about guns and what they can do, at 7 he knows that every gun in my house is capable of destroying life. I have made sure he has seen animals both large and small with large bloody holes with their guts hanging out, so he is full aware of the damage they can cause. He knows that now, and knows not to touch them. He also knows that if he wants to touch them (out of curiosity or otherwise) then all he has to do is ask, and we go over all the rules again, check the empty chamber together, and he is then allowed to handle it when done properly.
Its all those other kids out there that make me nervous, and thats why my sons friends dont spend any unsupervised time in my home.
 
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As i kid i would never have the balls to take my father's handgun for fear of knowing he would absolutely beat my ass. As stated above he established gun safety from an early age and the consequences of my messing with them without him being there.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cstmwrks</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: coldboremiracle</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Its all those other kids out there that make me nervous, and thats why my sons friends don't spend any unsupervised time in my home. </div></div>

I think it might be called being a parent. Nothing wrong with being around. I don't worry at all about what goes on in my home. When he steps out that door on his own you have no control. You teach them, train them and hope should some thing happen they use their own best judgment. Notice I said <span style="text-decoration: underline">their</span>best judgment. NOT necessarily the judgment of the nearest adult. </div></div>

like I said, its not my kid I worry about. Its all those other kids who's parents are assholes.
I went to a scout meeting last week as my kid is starting scouts this year, and the goofball lady that was running the show came "hunting" for the new kids with a toy gun, and my son told her she shouldn't be pointing a gun at people.
 
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I might get flamed for this but i think that a mandatory safety, gun care, handling, storing, and operating class should be implemented for new gun owners. Stupid crap like this shouldn't happen. That is terrible parenting and even worse gun safety.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: coldboremiracle</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This is terrifying as a parent, to think of the things that can happen at school or anywhere else for that matter.
My son is getting to that age, where I could see this kind of thing happening. But me and him have had many talks about guns and what they can do, at 7 he knows that every gun in my house is capable of destroying life. I have made sure he has seen animals both large and small with large bloody holes with their guts hanging out, so he is full aware of the damage they can cause. He knows that now, and knows not to touch them. He also knows that if he wants to touch them (out of curiosity or otherwise) then all he has to do is ask, and we go over all the rules again, check the empty chamber together, and he is then allowed to handle it when done properly.
Its all those other kids out there that make me nervous, and thats why my sons friends dont spend any unsupervised time in my home. </div></div>

Excellent post! this is very similar to what i have done with my son. I took him hunting with me in a backpack at 3yrs old and he watched me skin and gut my buck and i made it a point to show him what guns are for and what they do when you point them at things.
 
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I think the main warning sign here is that the kid was running away. At age 7 he thinks that grabbing the family .45 and making a go of it on his own is a better idea than sticking around for Mama's cooking? I don't know any 7 yr olds having those thoughts. Unless this kid is emotionally handicapped, I think gun control is just one of <span style="font-style: italic">many</span> subjects these parents (if there are actually two) are probably failing on.
 
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The parents are divorced and the kid got it from his mother's house who's boyfriend had left it accessible...
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Broker</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The parents are divorced and the kid got it from his mother's house who's boyfriend had left it accessible... </div></div>

like I guessed, one of MANY problems

and the gun control crowd only wants to focus on the weapon.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Blackops_2</div><div class="ubbcode-body">As i kid i would never have the balls to take my father's handgun for fear of knowing he would absolutely beat my ass. As stated above he established gun safety from an early age and the consequences of my messing with them without him being there.</div></div>
Exactly. I think the underlying problem here is the family unit is not what it used to be in America. A lot of kids don't have a father around to put the fear of God into them.
 
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Even a careful aimed sanwich wouldn't kill someone.

In this state when they noticed a lot of car accidents were caused by teens getting their drivers license and driving with their teen friends they made it mandatory to take a drivers training course before you got your license and you are not allowed to drive with anyone under the age of 21 with you until you are 18. Those rules make sense, in all honesty I got into a lot of trouble from cruising around with my friends as a teen.

Most people would claim common sense or good parenting. While this is true what do you do with someone who is a law abiding citizen but doesn't or hasn't had these things? You teach them. Come sense is a learned traight. I learned common sense from the mistakes I made as a teenager. A 9 year old, or anyone else for that matter, should not have to learn common sense from a negligent discharge. .02
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MuleHunter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If we could minimize they amount of accidents from firearms through proper training the anti gun crowd would have less to whine about </div></div>

I honestly think is 1/2 the problem lies within a lack of firearm education all the way around. We'll discuss sex, drugs, religion, and politics in school but it's taboo to discuss firearms? Many kids are growing up with Call Of Duty mentalities and don't know that some weapons the only safeties are drop. I'm not saying we have to dedicate an entire day to instruction or even bring firearms into classes, but a 2 hour course much like sex ed on safety & operation of firearms wouldn't hurt, and everyone knows the boys would be all to eager to go.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MuleHunter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I might get flamed for this but i think that a mandatory safety, gun care, handling, storing, and operating class should be implemented for new gun owners. Stupid crap like this shouldn't happen. That is terrible parenting and even worse gun safety. </div></div>

Wouldn't make a difference in most cases. You cannot fix irresponsible and stupid.

If we had a 100% safety record with firearms the antis would still be trying to take them. What many don't understand is the gun control movement is a lot more about them knowing what's best for you than anything.
 
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The problem is that the public in general is fairly ignorant when it comes to guns like Broker touched on. When the general public begins to hear news stories like 9 yr olds getting shot it can sway them anti gun. Like guns are too dangerous to be legal. If you educate people on proper firearm saftey and those stories stop showing up in the news people may feel differently about firearms. It would make them harder to take away.

Your right you cannot fix stupid, but you can educate the new gun owner community and that would hopefully help.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: a-hull</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Two words...home school.
It is stories like these , and the recent school shooting in what was it Ohio or something, that my kids have never and will never go to public school. </div></div>


Seriously Washington is not that bad when it comes to school violence that kids are better off being home schooled. Go to a school in LA, Chicago, New York City, Cleveland, Detroit, or Philadelphia and then come back and tell me you think schools here are dangerous. The worse that usually happens here is they come home filled with crap ass liberal ideas...
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MuleHunter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Depends on where you go to school here. I went to school here and it was a rough neighborhood, there was a lot of gang fights. </div></div>

In Everett? I have driven through there a bunch of times and I guess always mistook it as more of an Aberdeen than a Tacoma. I guess with the Naval Base there is a propensity to have more transient teenagers from all areas of the US dragging that baggage along with them.
 
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Just off the top of my head i remember two accounts in high school where a bunch of asian kids jumped a guy in the parking lot and beat him within inches of his life with a baseball bat, and a kid getting stabbed. It happens, even in everett. My buddy lived by the school and got jumped by a couple of russians. Just a bad neighborhood.
 
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Heard today that the bullet went through her elbow, liver, spleen, lodged in her spine. 5 surgeries so far and more to come.

Pretty good community support on this.
Mother of child shooter was a felon allegedly, and boyfriend's gun or not she should be getting charged.

Between this, losing a WSP trooper, having a serial killer, a Park Ranger killed by a DUI, it's been a helluva week.
 
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I'd be in favor of a DAD law. As in once you father a child, you MUST remain married to that woman until the child reaches age 18. This tragedy is not because of guns or lack of controls on guns or gun education.

I apologize ahead of time if that stings anyone. I have just seen divorce/wedlock first hand as the most destructive force in the universe. I'm exaggerating, maybe the Japanese/Indian Ocean Tsunamis were worse.

edit: On second thought, you can't legislate values. I just reacted to the little girl having a .45 lodged in her spine. I hope she makes it.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: WhiskeyWebber</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'd be in favor of a DAD law. As in once you father a child, you MUST remain married to that woman until the child reaches age 18. This tragedy is not because of guns or lack of controls on guns or gun education.

I apologize ahead of time if that stings anyone. I have just seen divorce/wedlock first hand as the most destructive force in the universe. I'm exaggerating, maybe the Japanese/Indian Ocean Tsunamis were worse.

edit: On second thought, you can't legislate values. I just reacted to the little girl having a .45 lodged in her spine. I hope she makes it. </div></div>


I would be in favor of a dad law, if it meant the Dad of a child shooting victim got to shoot the shooter.
(refering to the ohio school shooting)
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: WhiskeyWebber</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'd be in favor of a DAD law. As in once you father a child, you MUST remain married to that woman until the child reaches age 18. This tragedy is not because of guns or lack of controls on guns or gun education.

I apologize ahead of time if that stings anyone. I have just seen divorce/wedlock first hand as the most destructive force in the universe. I'm exaggerating, maybe the Japanese/Indian Ocean Tsunamis were worse.

edit: On second thought, you can't legislate values. I just reacted to the little girl having a .45 lodged in her spine. I hope she makes it. </div></div>

Fuck no... My real father although be it well respected in his military field is drunken douche bag at best. My mother had every right to leave his ass. Although you may think Divorce is ugly, have you ever seen what happens to a child that grows up in a household with 2 people that hate each other? Minus the inevitable adultery, arguing, and possible violence you still have a kid that doesn't understand compassion, love, or respect at it's fullest because the only example available was 2 people bent on hating the each other... I'll pass on your DAD law...