NRL22/PRS Style match EQ/TRAINING

[BLJ]

1) Suggestions on what we need. 2) Suggestions on training.

Our current equipment consist of (2) stock 10/22's barreled actions in ATI stock and a Blackhawk Axiom stock. At minimum these would get a Brimstone tier 2. Maybe barrels as well. Also ordering a RA Rimfire heavy barrel and it will have a 6-24 Diamondback tactical. The previously mentioned 10/22's both have 3.5x10 Bushnell for now. Willing to change. I looked a long time at Arken last night and was liking what I saw. Cheap bipod for both. Yes I know the list is not up to competitive standards, but this is where we are starting from. Also a Bushnell Legend T spotter that I like very well.
Range access consist of up to 50 yards every day at my house. I also have ladders, sawhorses, buckets, chairs, and all that. I'm having to order good ammo and it's obviously not exactly readily available so I'm looking to maximize training with the ranges I have and with limited ammo. Say 25-50 rounds per person per session. Or less?
I know as of now that we need at least bags of so e sort. Suggestions on that? Trying to go budget, but when I do buy, I'd like to get good stuff. All purchases will be budgeted over the next 5-6 months to be ready for spring.
Looking for all angels on this. Thanks.

 

[littlepod]

I'd suggest to cut your losses and just buy a Tikka T1X or a CZ 457. Out of the factory they'll outshoot and have a nicer trigger than all the work that you're intending to put into the 10/22's.

You can do a lot of testing of your wobble zone and dry firing from all your barricades without ever having to shoot any ammo. Just put a 1" target at 50 yards, get onto your barricades and see how it feels. Experiment with different sorts of positioning, kneeling, high kneeling, sitting, etc. Try out different bags.

Once you think you have it figured out and that your positions feel good, then put some ammo in and practice the stage on that 1" 50 yard target under time to see how it went.

If I'm focused and not wasting ammo, I generally only shoot about 50-60 a session as I'm practicing positioning first. No point in shooting in a compromised position with real ammo during practice.

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I have multiple gamechangers, shmedium, og, and Warhorse Development Clede, and Railchanger X's, but yet the Wiebad MFC w/ the sticky arch just works for 90% of the time. I've sold so many bags and confident that the Wiebad would be my one go-to bag if I could only have one.

Unsolicited Comments -
Scopes will stay with you forever. So buy something that will last and you will enjoy.
The Arken's aren't bad from the reviews and feedback I've heard from people. In that ~$500 is price range for a scope, I'd look at a used Vortex Strike Eagle or Athlon Midas Tac. The DB Tactical isn't bad, just for like $200 more you get a lot more scope.

Again, I personally wouldn't go down the 10/22 investment rathole. Even doing the RA Rimfire, it's going to shoot 'so-so' at best. For $450 for a T1X or a CZ 457 Varmint, just go that way.

 

[BLJ]

I'm liking the 457. Kinda interested in the American synthetic or the varmint. Seems like a lot of gun for the money.

 

[littlepod]

I'm liking the 457. Kinda interested in the American synthetic or the varmint. Seems like a lot of gun for the money.

Yeh I'd go that way for $450ish. The action is all the same so you have the option of dropping it into a KRG Bravo or MDT in the future. That's how I started out... low investment in a Tikka T1X... ended up then going to a KRG Bravo. Then I went full customizable ARCA chassis with the MDT ACC. Now I run MDT ACC's for everything... But I also grew my equipment based on my own growth and practice on what I wanted more out of my rifle/chassis that I experienced through a lot of competitions.

 

[BLJ]

How are the barrels attached on the 457's? Sounds like there are a lot of quality options for cz barreled actions. .

 

[Trigger Monkey]

I made up these rimfire targets to use at the range to work on different aspects of shooting that I might encounter at a match. All you need is 50 yards and 50 rounds, some barricades, and if you want you can use a shot timer. Keep score to track your progress or create a little mini-match between the two of you. If you have kids or just want to mix it up I also did a "Shooting Gallery" version with ducks and stuff...it's neat.

The first target is basically working on precision with a KYL, dot drill, and hostage target.

The second page is working on barricades

And the last page is working on traditional positional shooting positions (standing, sitting, kneeling, and prone)

I'll use those targets at the range and in the backyard I created some targets that roughly scale at 35 yards to a 12" and 6" plate at 300, a 10" and torso plate at 400, and two torso plates at 600. I'll set up my barricades and work different positions to see what works for me in so far as body position, rifle position, what gear works better than others, etc... Once I've done that I'll go try it out with the .22 and then a centerfire, saves hella time and money because nothing sucks worse than bombing a stage because the new bag you got specifically blows for what you just used it for.

 

[IamJoHo]

I made up these rimfire targets to use at the range to work on different aspects of shooting that I might encounter at a match. All you need is 50 yards and 50 rounds, some barricades, and if you want you can use a shot timer. Keep score to track your progress or create a little mini-match between the two of you. If you have kids or just want to mix it up I also did a "Shooting Gallery" version with ducks and stuff...it's neat.

The first target is basically working on precision with a KYL, dot drill, and hostage target.
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The second page is working on barricades
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And the last page is working on traditional positional shooting positions (standing, sitting, kneeling, and prone)

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I'll use those targets at the range and in the backyard I created some targets that roughly scale at 35 yards to a 12" and 6" plate at 300, a 10" and torso plate at 400, and two torso plates at 600. I'll set up my barricades and work different positions to see what works for me in so far as body position, rifle position, what gear works better than others, etc... Once I've done that I'll go try it out with the .22 and then a centerfire, saves hella time and money because nothing sucks worse than bombing a stage because the new bag you got specifically blows for what you just used it for.

I'm stealing these. Thanks.

 

[Mban2]

I made up these rimfire targets to use at the range to work on different aspects of shooting that I might encounter at a match. All you need is 50 yards and 50 rounds, some barricades, and if you want you can use a shot timer. Keep score to track your progress or create a little mini-match between the two of you. If you have kids or just want to mix it up I also did a "Shooting Gallery" version with ducks and stuff...it's neat.

The first target is basically working on precision with a KYL, dot drill, and hostage target.
View attachment 7456153

The second page is working on barricades
View attachment 7456159

And the last page is working on traditional positional shooting positions (standing, sitting, kneeling, and prone)

View attachment 7456160

I'll use those targets at the range and in the backyard I created some targets that roughly scale at 35 yards to a 12" and 6" plate at 300, a 10" and torso plate at 400, and two torso plates at 600. I'll set up my barricades and work different positions to see what works for me in so far as body position, rifle position, what gear works better than others, etc... Once I've done that I'll go try it out with the .22 and then a centerfire, saves hella time and money because nothing sucks worse than bombing a stage because the new bag you got specifically blows for what you just used it for.

This is amazing

 

[BLJ]

In on those trigger monkey. Thanks.

 

[BLJ]

In regard toto a NRL22 base class rifle. Would I be better off to get the American for $454 or the pro v for $588? I'm thinking American and spend the difference on glass. Then when the time comes I still have the same action to build on if I go to the open class. And better glass to bring with me from base to open class.
The pro varmint with a 6-24 diamondback tactical puts me over the $1050 threshold for base. Or should imlook into different (cheaper) for the pro varmint?

 

[littlepod]

Get the Bushnell Match Pro for $449, it's a much better scope.

 

[Funcpottr]

I would suggest you not feel like you have to max out the 1050. I shoot a stock t1x with a triad pack and dback on top. I'm not scoring overall with voodoo/razor shooters but I haven't been shooting near as long. I do keep up with them (and even beat them a few times) on a surprising number of stages. The value of dry fire cannot be overstated. Ever.

 

[BLJ]

16" CZ 457 Varmint At-One came home with me last night. Really excited about this gun. I believe it will be a lot better suited for me than building my 1022. Thanks to everyone for the advice.