OPPS Red Jacket LOSSES License per ATF

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How can you loose a dozen guns?????? Beside making some fun CRAP, guess the Kansas Law Dogs have been watching their BS antics as welll... oppps Reality TV At its best.. ITs really stupid...


Posted on December 23, 2011 by Dan Zimmerman
Red Jacket, the business featured in the Discovery Channel’s Sons of Guns “reality” show, has gotten themselves into hot water with our friends at the ATF. Seems their inventory system isn’t any better than their safety practices. The loss of the FFL, according to tmz.com, has resulted in the business’s owner, William Hayden, along with his daughter Stephanie, having to work for an employee in order to stay in business…

Things went swimmingly until 2009 … when the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms conducted a routine inspection of RJF and discovered 10 guns registered to the company could not be accounted for … a big, BIG problem. We’re told the feds pinned the blame on William and Stephanie — and were looking to take serious action that could have resulted in the end of RJF.

But law enforcement sources tell us … the Hayden’s struck a deal with feds in 2010, in which the two agreed to surrender their gun-making licenses … and in exchange, they could appoint a LICENSED person to take over the company. It didn’t take long for William and Stephanie to pick their successor … they went with Vincent Buckles… — another gunsmith often featured on the reality show.

Buckles has evidently left the business, too, and now the Hayden’s have dug up another FFL holder to be the licensed firearms dealer for Red Jacket.

They’ll likely use anyone with a pulse – and an FFL – in order to keep the business going and the Discovery Channel dollars coming in. We’re sure that the Haydens avoiding a frog march and criminal charges had nothing at all to do with the fact that they have a television show. Guess no one ever told them the ATF can be sticklers about keeping track of guns. Unless they’re headed south of the border, that is.

[h/t Ryan Finn]
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2011/12/daniel-zimmerman/oops-red-jacket-firearms-loses-their-ffl/
 
Re: OPPS Red Jacket LOSSES License per ATF

Irony at its best. They should have asked the agent if he knew where the 2000+ guns the atf "lost" where.

At the end of the day it doesnt surprise me, those idiots couldnt care for a rock.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ubet</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="font-weight: bold">Irony at its best. They should have asked the agent if he knew where the 2000+ guns the atf "lost" where.</span>

At the end of the day it doesnt surprise me, those idiots couldnt care for a rock.</div></div>

That is no shit! I would say the ATF is easily the most incompetent department of the federal government, at least it seems that way.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: matthewusmc8791</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Guess no one ever told them the ATF can be sticklers about keeping track of guns. Unless they’re headed south of the border, that is.</div></div>

this quote made me lol
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Re: OPPS Red Jacket LOSSES License per ATF

I raise my BS flag. The entire ATFE should be BUSTED from the TOP DOWN and CLOSED. Operation Fast and Furious should have closed the entire ATFE down for good because they violated their own laws. Bottom Line, DISBAND the entire ATFE and shut it down. Time to start over and begin with a new office with the 2nd Ammendment, ie, well you know where it goes from here
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Re: OPPS Red Jacket LOSSES License per ATF

ATF website shows them as having an FFL.
Either the ATF website hasn't been updated or the story is bunk.

At any rate, the show is still stupid and somewhat sad.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Switchblade</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I raise my BS flag. The entire ATFE should be BUSTED from the TOP DOWN and CLOSED. Operation Fast and Furious should have closed the entire ATFE down for good because they violated their own laws. Bottom Line, DISBAND the entire ATFE and shut it down. Time to start over and begin with a new office with the 2nd Ammendment, ie, well you know where it goes from here
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Like the T-shirt says, Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms should be a convenience store, not a federal agency.
 
Re: OPPS Red Jacket LOSSES License per ATF

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: normbal</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Switchblade</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I raise my BS flag. The entire ATFE should be BUSTED from the TOP DOWN and CLOSED. Operation Fast and Furious should have closed the entire ATFE down for good because they violated their own laws. Bottom Line, DISBAND the entire ATFE and shut it down. Time to start over and begin with a new office with the 2nd Ammendment, ie, well you know where it goes from here
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Like the T-shirt says, Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms should be a convenience store, not a federal agency.

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Ever been in Kentucky?