Night Vision OpsCore FastBase, Customer Service

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In October 2012, my first OpsCore Fast Base helmet broke while using a single PVS14 with a standard legacy USGI Rhino mount. I contacted Ops Core and they had me send it in to take a look at it, and about a month and half after first contacting them, they sent me a replacement. Here are pictures of the first helmet and the break:

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As was well and good for about 18 months, during which the helmet saw maybe 30 nights' worth of hog hunting, always using a single PVS14 and either a Rhino legacy mount or a Rhino II Ti mount. I usually left the Rhino attached and unhooked the 14 at the J-Arm. The Rhino was mounted and re-mounted maybe a total of 15 times, and that's overstated.

On August 4th, I was rearranging some stuff on the helmet and removed the Rhino II mount (using the release lever, not a hammer), and when the mount released, a piece of the shroud came with it. The EXACT same piece as on the first one.

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So, I sent an e-mail to OpsCore using their website's contact us form on August 5th. I got a quick reply asking to send some pictures, which I did the same day. Again, got a quick response and was told that the pictures would be sent to engineering to see what could be done. I followed back up with e-mails on August 7th and August 12th and left a voice mail on August 12th. I received a call back on 8/13 requesting that I supply them with the Return Authorization # I received from them in 2012 when the first one broke. All I could come up with was a copy of the e-mail I received from OpsCore in October 2012 stating that I didn't need a RA # to send my first one back, which I forwarded to OpsCore's customer service rep on 8/13. I sent a follow up e-mail on 8/18, and finally got the following as a response on 8/26:

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I'd already sent them one that broke in the exact same place and manner, and the helmet didn't pass the military's drop test since the shroud kept breaking (from 3 or 4 feet, IIRC), but "Engineering has not heard of the shroud breaking in the manner ". I replied the same day stating that I would like to get a RA, but that I didn't get a "sales number" when they replaced the first one. No response, so 3 days later, I asked again for an RA # to send the broken helmet in for review.

On 9/2, I got a response asking for me to send a picture of the break so that "our team to look at the helmet". So, I sent the same pictures I sent on August 5th along with two more. The next day, I received the following response:

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Trying hard to keep this post to the facts and keep opinion (and my default mode of smart ass) out of it. In short, I started this process on 8/5, and 4 weeks later, was asked to send the same pictures I initially sent on 8/5 to finally be told that a review of those pictures "determined that [span style='font-weight: bold;'][span style='font-style: italic;']use of the helmet [/span][/span]caused the damage which would not be covered." Use of the helmet caused it to break, as opposed to what, rust?

I'm thinking about trying some metal JB Weld and/ or screwing a Rhino into the shroud might get it to work. Or maybe something involving a mannequin head and some tannerite.....


BTW, my new Team Wendy ExFIl is better all the way around.
 
Stuff breaks, what matters is how customer service handles it.

The only thing I would've done differently is get on the phone with them ASAP. That often accelerates the process. Some entites can play email pretty well, but most "gun related" entites seem to react more positively if I get them on the phone. Just my experience.

I have an OPS CORE and a TEAM WENDY and so far both are working fine for me, though the OPS CORE did come with some paint already chipping off ... I suppose that was "due to use" in the shipping process !!! :D
 
That looks like a faulty bucket. They replaced it the 1st time but now say no go on the same issue? Hmmm...as I continue to do research on the best helmet, I wonder if this Ops-Cor company is worth the time? Team Wendy? How about PT helmets? At one time I lived less than 1 mile from their shop! Never heard of them before! Asleep at the wheel...again. I hope they get with the program and stand behind their product for you. Please keep us posted.

Doug
 
Sorry to hear about your issues with the BASE helmet. I have always warned people away from this helmet if they intended to use NVGs with it. The reality is the molded in shroud is and was meant for nothing more than a head lamp/light/GoPro camera at most. The BASE model is an injection molded helmet meant for civilian recreational use. It flexes like a Protec helmet or other skateboard type helmet does when you press in on the sides.

The flip side of that is the OPs Core Carbon fiber BUMP helmet which is made out of carbon fiber and composites and is harder than a honeymoon dick and uses a standard OPsCore shroud on it. Its a damn fine bump helmet but it costs significantly more than the BASE helmet. The reality is that they are two different helmets so don't make the mistake and think that the BUMP and the BASE are one in the same. Likewise, you cannot compare the BASE to the Team Wendy, as again, we are talking about two different levels of helmet quality and price wise.
 
I am glad you posted this as I am soon to be in the market for a "bump" and figured they all were nvd compatible. The companies should advertise weight limits on their shrouds as well as warn against using nvd. I'm sure this would cut into their sales quite a bit, but it would avoid negative exposure such as this.