ORSIS T-5000

[Toast]

Can anyone help me buy an Orsis T-5000? Is it possible? 6.5 creedmoor or .308 or .338

 

[THEIS]

Hi,

Short answer is No...
Long answer is that the US Department of State, US Department of Treasury, US Department of Commerce and BATFE will not allow the importation of Russian firearms, with the exception of those that are on the voluntary restraint agreement seen here https://tcc.export.gov/Trade_Agreements/All_Trade_Agreements/exp_005371.asp

Sincerely,
Theis

 

[_Windrider_]

Funny how you read something and then it’s starts popping up everywhere. Came across this today


https://amp.businessinsider.com/nra-helped-promote-orsis-t-5000-russian-sniper-rifle-2018-5

 

[THEIS]

Hi,

O man that article is so false and misleading.....

The NRA did NOT go to Russia strictly to meet with Orsis. It went (with the blessing of the US Treasury Department and US Department of State) on behalf of American companies to discuss a way to get some of the more modern Russian and Ukranian firearms manufacturers added to the VRA. In particular with MOLOT being added to the sanctioned list by Obama administration and how that was going to affect USA companies.

In regards to the Army report on Orsis...well that was/is based on what the International Special Warfare Community witnessed from Team 1 of the Russian Counter Terrorism Unit when they won the International Warrior Competition at KASOTC in 2015.

Sincerely,
Theis

 

[_Windrider_]

Well it’s mother jones so........l.

 

[Lowlight]

Just get the Ritter & Stark,

You cannot buy Russian Arms due to sanctions,

 

[Lowlight]

Should look a bit familiar

 

[Lowlight]

That barrel and brake should look familiar along wth the stock design and angle

 

[Simia Dei]

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That barrel and brake should look familiar along wth the stock design and angle

Lowlight, do you know if Ritter & Stark are going to be releasing the SX-1 in 300 Norma anytime soon? I’ve emailed them through their available channels and have had no response.

 

[Lowlight]

Nathan has been in Australia, his daughter had a baby there,

I would say it will be a bit for any off caliber barrels to be ready. Barrels will certainly be the slow point in this system

Because these use "Their" barrel and there are no aftermarket options, you are at their mercy

 

[_Windrider_]

Nathan has been in Australia, his daughter had a baby there,

I would say it will be a bit for any off caliber barrels to be ready. Barrels will certainly be the slow point in this system

Because these use "Their" barrel and there are no aftermarket options, you are at their mercy

They need to fix that for sure.

 

[Simia Dei]

Nathan has been in Australia, his daughter had a baby there,

I would say it will be a bit for any off caliber barrels to be ready. Barrels will certainly be the slow point in this system

Because these use "Their" barrel and there are no aftermarket options, you are at their mercy

Thanks for the information. Pursuing a cadex or AI will be a better option here for a while then. I wouldn’t want to be stuck waiting on a barrel from Ritter & Stark knowing what our wait times are here already for firearm parts.

 

[THEIS]

Hi,

I doubt it very much that you will see "aftermarket" barrels for their system. One of their marketing and selling points is the way they produce their barrels with electrochemical machine, along with having the scope rail integral on barrel.

Sincerely,
Theis

 

[Lowlight]

I saw plans to change it,

They got shut down hard for that barrel design so in order to compete they are gonna move to a different design. They can still make the barrels the same, but the rail on the barrel is a No Go for here in the USA.

They have a design to use a Remington type thread on an extension

 

[Silvan]

Can anyone help me buy an Orsis T-5000? Is it possible? 6.5 creedmoor or .308 or .338

No chance.
Exception is to join the FSO sniper’s unit and you will get it for free with the bonus of a breathtaking view from the Kremlin walls.
Just a joke.

 

[Toast]

Rats. Thanks guys.

 

[C4N4DIAN]

I have a T-5000 with deployment kit in 308 that was imported Pre Ukraine sanctions for LE/Mil testing but don’t think there is a way to move it in the US from Canada due to current ITAR regulations. Maybe someone in the know can chime in, is there any type of license that would allow for the import ?

 

[THEIS]

Hi,

Well ITAR doesn't have anything to do with firearms coming INTO the USA; that is controlled by the BATFE.

BATFE will not approve the Form 6 import license for the Orsis because they are not listed on the VRA (Voluntary Restraint Agreement) which list exactly what firearms and ammunition CAN be imported from Russia and any of the Old Bloc countries.

That is why Kalashnikov USA is an independent company from Kalashnikov Concern.

Sincerely,
Theis

 

[C4N4DIAN]

Hi,

Well ITAR doesn't have anything to do with firearms coming INTO the USA; that is controlled by the BATFE.

BATFE will not approve the Form 6 import license for the Orsis because they are not listed on the VRA (Voluntary Restraint Agreement) which list exactly what firearms and ammunition CAN be imported from Russia and any of the Old Bloc countries.

That is why Kalashnikov USA is an independent company from Kalashnikov Concern.

Sincerely,
Theis

BOOM, thanks for the clarification, reading the current available documentation, I was at pretty much the same conclusion.

 

[THEIS]

Hi,

Yea, that VRA has saved and cost me a lot of money lolol...

I tried getting the following added to the VRA but one side or the other did not want to proceed with it:

Lobaev
Orsis
Zybroyar
Fort (I wanted to import their 5.7 pistol for the USA market)

Sincerely,
Theis