Rifle Scopes Parallax for 10x scope - Really needed?

[BaileyMoto]

Let's assume 100-200 target shooting for groups and 600-700 yard steel (.223) - Is a Parallax adjustment needed? Reason I ask, I am still torn between the NF 2.5-10 and the Leupold 3.5-10 M5. Leupold has a couple options I like, including the Parallax adjustment...but the question is, does one really benefit from the option in such a scope? I know people both harp on NF scopes, but I also see harping on the need for parallax.

What do you think?

 

[YN*Dotte]

Re: Parallax for 10x scope - Really needed?

You can get a ST10 with ERGO AO for about the same price and its alot better than a Mark 4, not sure how you feel about the fixed power scope though. Also you will probably use a parralax more than you think. BTW there is nothing wrong with the Mark 4, but for the money there are better scopes out there.

 

[sobrbiker883]

Re: Parallax for 10x scope - Really needed?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: YN*Dotte</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You can get a ST10 with ERGO AO for about the same price and its alot better than a Mark 4, not sure how you feel about the fixed power scope though. Also you will probably use a parralax more than you think. BTW there is nothing wrong with the Mark 4, but for the money there are better scopes out there. </div></div>

I agree, but the NF leads me to believe he wants adjustment.

Parallax shouldn't be a big issue in the usage you describe, but will come into play as you shoot inside the ranges the scope's parallax is set for. This can be countered somewhat by dialing the magnification back.

There's a nice slimline USO 1.8-10 in the for sale section currently, and that scope is what I like in the class that NF 2.5-10's fill.

 

[BaileyMoto]

Re: Parallax for 10x scope - Really needed?

Yea, I do want adjustment and this will be going on an mk12. I can get the Leupold for just under $1100, which is another reason this is such a hard decision. I'm leaning towards the NF, but the TMR reticle, Parallax, and price make this a tough choice.

I have FFP in the Bushnell 4200 3-12 that I just mounted and I don't see this being an important factor, at least not yet. Not sure if I'd change my mind about that later or not.

Leupold has Parallax and FFP, while Nightforce has ZeroStop and illumination. $1100 vs $1500

EDIt - That USO looks nice, but he is selling it for the same wants I have - mil/mil.

 

[5RWill]

Re: Parallax for 10x scope - Really needed?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BaileyMoto</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yea, I do want adjustment and this will be going on an mk12. I can get the Leupold for just under $1100, which is another reason this is such a hard decision. I'm leaning towards the NF, but the TMR reticle, Parallax, and price make this a tough choice.

I have FFP in the Bushnell 4200 3-12 that I just mounted and I don't see this being an important factor, at least not yet. Not sure if I'd change my mind about that later or not.

Leupold has Parallax and FFP, while Nightforce has ZeroStop and illumination. $1100 vs $1500

EDIt - That USO looks nice, but he is selling it for the same wants I have - mil/mil. </div></div>

I can't stomach the price of the nightforce without having FFP. I would definitely opt for another SN-3 1.8-10x37mm but with the options i would want on it, it would be above 2000$. I've found a mark 4 M3 for 1302, that i've been looking at. Only downside to the FFP leupolds are no illumination which sucks...

 

[adam1122]

Re: Parallax for 10x scope - Really needed?

I'm kinda in the same boat.....I've a USO scope at their factory right now having some warranty issues and I'm torn between adding a parallax adjustment to the scope....it's $200 to add to the front of the scope (twist style)....not like the tpal version. Is it really worth it or only at extreme Deanne 750m plus.

Should I have them install it? I've got more equipment to buy like a Burris fast fire II and a Burkett mount. An easy $325. Any suggestions......my rifle has already got about $8500 in so at this point who gives a shit right?

 

[Rich Coyle]

Re: Parallax for 10x scope - Really needed?

Is it needed? If you want to see the details.

 

[BaileyMoto]

Re: Parallax for 10x scope - Really needed?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Old man now</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Is it needed? If you want to see the details. </div></div>

So would you say that holds true for the Nightforce scopes w/o parallax?

 

[Rich Coyle]

Re: Parallax for 10x scope - Really needed?

I have seen scopes About $400 and under do better for seeing detail at longer ranges than Swarovski. I don't know about Nightforce, but would bet the same would apply.

 

[sobrbiker883]

Re: Parallax for 10x scope - Really needed?

Parallax adjustment is more of an issue when shooting inside where the scope is set for if fixed, not further...

Clarity is subjective on all glass Old man, but parallax and focus are not one in the same. I'm more concerned with eliminating parallax and hitting the target rather than using a 10X scope as a spotting scope.

 

[Rich Coyle]

Re: Parallax for 10x scope - Really needed?

sobrbiker883,

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Clarity is subjective on all glass Old man, but parallax and focus are not one in the same. </div></div>

The fellows I hunt with have noticed the same thing about adjustable objective or side focus allowing one to sharpen up detail at distance when it can not be done with a fixed paralax model.

 

[T2CH]

Re: Parallax for 10x scope - Really needed?

For hunting and a 10 power scope I say it is not necessary. Adjustment is good but if you do not know where the animal is coming from or it stays on the move I doubt you will have time to adjust anyway. So, if the scope is for hunting maybe a fixed obj will be easier to use.

 

[sobrbiker883]

Re: Parallax for 10x scope - Really needed?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Old man now</div><div class="ubbcode-body">sobrbiker883,

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Clarity is subjective on all glass Old man, but parallax and focus are not one in the same. </div></div>

The fellows I hunt with have noticed the same thing about adjustable objective or side focus allowing one to sharpen up detail at distance when it can not be done with a fixed paralax model. </div></div>

My point is that depending upon the user's eyes and the individual scope, sometimes when the image is "focused" clearest it is not parallax free.....especially in the $400 range.

 

[adam1122]

Re: Parallax for 10x scope - Really needed?

I'm asking bc I need to be able to shoot the size of deck of cards width at 1000m. Just hitting a plate thats 12x12 isnt't going to work for my application. Those who are in the know shiuld be able to figure out what I am called upon to do at times. Thanks for the information though gents.

 

[Jon A]

Re: Parallax for 10x scope - Really needed?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Old man now</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Is it needed? If you want to see the details. </div></div>
Hogwash. Of all the things that determine the ability of a 10X to see details at distance parallax adjustment isn't even on the list. The adjustable scope he's asking about, the Leupold, won't see details nearly as well as other scopes without the adjustment, the IOR 2.5-10X42 for example. There are lots of reasons for that but parallax adjustment is not among them.

To the OP's question, that particular scope had more parallax than I liked at long range. My SS 3-9 seems to have a fair amount less. How much will it will have can vary depending upon the distance to which it is set. A 10X with the parallax permanently set to 200 or 300 yds will have very little at long range. I've heard conflicting stories about the NF 2.5-10 so you might want to give them a call.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Adamxdavis</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm asking bc I need to be able to shoot the size of deck of cards width at 1000m. Just hitting a plate thats 12x12 isnt't going to work for my application. </div></div>
That's a tall order with any scope. I would certainly want parallax adjustment for this. Though personally I'd want a higher power scope as well.

 

[SPAK]

Re: Parallax for 10x scope - Really needed?



My point is that depending upon the user's eyes and the individual scope, sometimes when the image is "focused" clearest it is not parallax free.....especially in the $400 range.

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This is exactly correct.....clarity is one thing, parallax is another. Depending on your scope, just because you focus a clear image, doesn't mean your parallax has been adjusted for. On the same token, where you adjust the scope to be parallax free might leave you with a blurry image. Scope quality will likely dictate both...

 

[sobrbiker883]

Re: Parallax for 10x scope - Really needed?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Adamxdavis</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm asking bc I need to be able to shoot the size of deck of cards width at 1000m. </div></div>


ummmm, okay. in that case I would suggest you look into what kind of scopes the LR Benchrest boys are using, because with your skills you should hold the record.

BTW, I didn't know Dinty Moore came in a can the size of a deck of cards......

 

[19Scout77]

Re: Parallax for 10x scope - Really needed?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Adamxdavis</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Those who are in the know should be able to figure out what I am called upon to do at times.</div></div>

Let me guess--you are called upon to Talk Out of Your Ass!! And I'm, not even "in the know".

 

[sobrbiker883]

Re: Parallax for 10x scope - Really needed?

Silly me, thinking a 12x12 plate is a challenge at 1100+ yards in field conditions....and I use a telescope compared to a 10X fixed scope!

Next he's gonna say its the side of the deck of cards.....

 

[YN*Dotte]

Re: Parallax for 10x scope - Really needed?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Adamxdavis</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm asking bc I need to be able to shoot the size of deck of cards width at 1000m. Just hitting a plate thats 12x12 isnt't going to work for my application. Those who are in the know shiuld be able to figure out what I am called upon to do at times. Thanks for the information though gents. </div></div>

A deck of cards at 1000m?? Either your rounds have homing beacons, or you and Bob Lee Swagger have some insider secrets.

 

[edward r homeyer]

Re: Parallax for 10x scope - Really needed?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: YN*Dotte</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Adamxdavis</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm asking bc I need to be able to shoot the size of deck of cards width at 1000m. Just hitting a plate thats 12x12 isnt't going to work for my application. Those who are in the know shiuld be able to figure out what I am called upon to do at times. Thanks for the information though gents. </div></div>

A deck of cards at 1000m?? Either your rounds have homing beacons, or you and Bob Lee Swagger have some insider secrets. </div></div>

A deck of cards at a 1000 meters, why bother going to the range if you are going to be doing something so routine? For a 1000 meters I prefer to set out a blank domino set and shoot in the dots myself.

and no parallax issue if you just use this, as I do.

 

[J-Ham]

Re: Parallax for 10x scope - Really needed?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Adamxdavis</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I own an SN-3 with illuminated reticle and ergo knob. It does not have the TPAL. I could have it installed on the front of the scope for $200. Has anyone ever shot an SN-3 with and without the ability to adjust for paralax. At short ranges it wont make much of a different but at longer ranges the reticle may blur some apparantly. Is it worth having them install the parallax adjustment feature on the end of the scope for $200?</div></div>
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Adamxdavis</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm asking bc I need to be able to shoot the size of deck of cards width at 1000m. Just hitting a plate thats 12x12 isnt't going to work for my application. Those who are in the know shiuld be able to figure out what I am called upon to do at times. Thanks for the information though gents.</div></div>
Based on your knowledge of scopes and specifically parallax, I doubt any of this very much.

I hate to break it to you bud, but when you come out of your mother's basement, the sunlight of reality will illuminate your bullshit. Good luck at the 1,100 yard line.

 

[edward r homeyer]

Re: Parallax for 10x scope - Really needed?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: J.J. McQuade</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: YN*Dotte</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Adamxdavis</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm asking bc I need to be able to shoot the size of deck of cards width at 1000m. Just hitting a plate thats 12x12 isnt't going to work for my application. Those who are in the know shiuld be able to figure out what I am called upon to do at times. Thanks for the information though gents. </div></div>

A deck of cards at 1000m?? Either your rounds have homing beacons, or you and Bob Lee Swagger have some insider secrets. </div></div>

A deck of cards at a 1000 meters, why bother going to the range if you are going to be doing something so routine? For a 1000 meters I prefer to set out a blank domino set and shoot in the dots myself.

and no parallax issue if you just use this, as I do.

</div></div>

I only use 9mm out to 1200 meters. Anything past that is just unrealistic and asking too much from that round. Besides that would seem unbelievable. Anything further than 1200 and I switch to .40cal and hold my gun with 2 hands. Obviously.

 

[sobrbiker883]

Re: Parallax for 10x scope - Really needed?

10mm to a mile.....

 

[tullius]

Re: Parallax for 10x scope - Really needed?

That don't look like 1K to me, McQuade..

 

[edward r homeyer]

Re: Parallax for 10x scope - Really needed?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: tullius</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That don't look like 1K to me, McQuade..

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That's cause I have the parallax adjusted for me. It just looks a lot closer. Kinda the opposite effect of side view mirrors. Objects are farther than they appear.

 

[T2CH]

Re: Parallax for 10x scope - Really needed?

That must be a bushy optic your using, McQuade. My superman like vision can see a red dot in the target picture.

 

[adam1122]

Re: Parallax for 10x scope - Really needed?

Wow. you guys need to get a grip...I shoot the equipment that is given to me and if I want something else than it has to get cleared first and then it can get bought. By the way, if you can't hit a target that is about 4 inches by 3.5 inches at 1000 then you might want to to so some load development or go practice your trigger squeeze. There is no secret, just good fundamentals my friend. Not meaning to start any crap here but Ive sent more than my share of rounds downrange and am not clueless....but thanks for the opinion.

 

[Force_Multiplier]

Re: Parallax for 10x scope - Really needed?

I'm betting it's a fiber optic front sight

 

[sobrbiker883]

Re: Parallax for 10x scope - Really needed?

3.5 inches at 1K first round hit......Heck, we should just make that the big target in the KYL at national level comps!

1/3 moa at 100 yards on demand is a combination of excellent gear and perfect fundamentals.
Expecting that to translate in a linear fashion to distances such as 1000m shows a complete ignorance of not only mathematical dispersion, but reality with precison rifles altogether.

I call bullshit my friend, on your 4"x3.5" ability at 1K.
I'd venture that Lowlight would even let you come out to RiflesOnly and demonstrate in a video if you'd like to prove me wrong!

 

[5RWill]

Re: Parallax for 10x scope - Really needed?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sobrbiker883</div><div class="ubbcode-body">3.5 inches at 1K first round hit......Heck, we should just make that the big target in the KYL at national level comps!

1/3 moa at 100 yards on demand is a combination of excellent gear and perfect fundamentals.
Expecting that to translate in a linear fashion to distances such as 1000m shows a complete ignorance of not only mathematical dispersion, but reality with precison rifles altogether.

I call bullshit my friend, on your 4"x3.5" ability at 1K.
I'd venture that Lowlight would even let you come out to RiflesOnly and demonstrate in a video if you'd like to prove me wrong! </div></div>

I'm inclined to agree. Hell MOA at 1000yds is difficult enough with top end equipment. Shooting 1/3 MOA at 100yds isn't the simplest thing either. Maybe it's a typo and he meant 100yds? Shooting anything under 10" at 1000 i consider pretty difficult.

 

[19Scout77]

Re: Parallax for 10x scope - Really needed?

let's make sure we are on the same page...Mr. BS claims he shoots cards at 1000 METERS--not yards.

 

[tullius]

Re: Parallax for 10x scope - Really needed?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: J.J. McQuade</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: tullius</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That don't look like 1K to me, McQuade..

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That's cause I have the parallax adjusted for me. It just looks a lot closer. Kinda the opposite effect of side view mirrors. Objects are farther than they appear. </div></div>

Haha, that's pretty good.

 

[Lowlight]

Re: Parallax for 10x scope - Really needed?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Adamxdavis</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm asking bc I need to be able to shoot the size of deck of cards width at 1000m. Just hitting a plate thats 12x12 isnt't going to work for my application. Those who are in the know shiuld be able to figure out what I am called upon to do at times. Thanks for the information though gents.</div></div>

Seeing how Adam is around Houston I will pay for his gas, hotel and give $500 to Charity (Wounded Warrior) if he can hit a deck of cards at 1000m at Rifles Only. I may even give him more than one shot.

Only a couple hour drive from Houston to Kingsville, we have Precision Rifle Class starting March 14th, so he can put on a clinic for everyone. I'll bring the cards, he can bring the rifle and his mad skillz.

 

[sobrbiker883]

Re: Parallax for 10x scope - Really needed?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lowlight</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Adamxdavis</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm asking bc I need to be able to shoot the size of deck of cards width at 1000m. Just hitting a plate thats 12x12 isnt't going to work for my application. Those who are in the know shiuld be able to figure out what I am called upon to do at times. Thanks for the information though gents.</div></div>

Seeing how Adam is around Houston I will pay for his gas, hotel and give $500 to Charity (Wounded Warrior) if he can hit a deck of cards at 1000m at Rifles Only. I may even give him more than one shot.

Only a couple hour drive from Houston to Kingsville, we have Precision Rifle Class starting March 14th, so he can put on a clinic for everyone. I'll bring the cards, he can bring the rifle and his mad skillz. </div></div>

Bullet Tooth Tony's "big brave balls" speech from the movie "Snatch" suddenly comes to mind, as I imagine Adam's shrinkage occuring.

 

[YN*Dotte]

Re: Parallax for 10x scope - Really needed?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Blackops_2</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sobrbiker883</div><div class="ubbcode-body">3.5 inches at 1K first round hit......Heck, we should just make that the big target in the KYL at national level comps!

1/3 moa at 100 yards on demand is a combination of excellent gear and perfect fundamentals.
Expecting that to translate in a linear fashion to distances such as 1000m shows a complete ignorance of not only mathematical dispersion, but reality with precison rifles altogether.

I call bullshit my friend, on your 4"x3.5" ability at 1K.
I'd venture that Lowlight would even let you come out to RiflesOnly and demonstrate in a video if you'd like to prove me wrong! </div></div>

I'm inclined to agree. Hell MOA at 1000yds is difficult enough with top end equipment. Shooting 1/3 MOA at 100yds isn't the simplest thing either. Maybe it's a typo and he meant 100yds? Shooting anything under 10" at 1000 i consider pretty difficult. </div></div>

I second the BS call,... You would be setting world records left and right if you could shoot like that ( 3.5 inches at 1000 meters). If you can lay down the groups like that, on demand, then it sounds like you have some classes to teach or some competitions to win,...

 

[WDN-K-9]

Re: Parallax for 10x scope - Really needed?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lowlight</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Adamxdavis</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm asking bc I need to be able to shoot the size of deck of cards width at 1000m. Just hitting a plate thats 12x12 isnt't going to work for my application. Those who are in the know shiuld be able to figure out what I am called upon to do at times. Thanks for the information though gents.</div></div>

Seeing how Adam is around Houston I will pay for his gas, hotel and give $500 to Charity (Wounded Warrior) if he can hit a deck of cards at 1000m at Rifles Only. I may even give him more than one shot.

Only a couple hour drive from Houston to Kingsville, we have Precision Rifle Class starting March 14th, so he can put on a clinic for everyone. I'll bring the cards, he can bring the rifle and his mad skillz. </div></div>

And you Mr Adam sir, you have been called out......

Deck of cards at a grand....Humm, I have 20/10 left, 20/13 right, tested on 2-8-11 (my vision is my job and it is checked every year like clockwork), the elementery school here on the island is exactly 1200yds from my house. I just walked out and took my nice new (to me) 8.5-25X50 and took a looksee....old Brian with his near perfect eyesight isn't going to be seeing a deck of cards at a grand.... I'm just saying.

 

[Rthur]

Re: Parallax for 10x scope - Really needed?

Let me see if I have my math correct. A 3.5 x 4 card at 1000 meters would be just under a tenth of a mil square. I'm going to be there on the 14th and would like to see that shot.

 

[WDN-K-9]

Re: Parallax for 10x scope - Really needed?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rthur</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Let me see if I have my math correct. A 3.5 x 4 card at 1000 meters would be just under a tenth of a mil square. I'm going to be there on the 14th and would like to see that shot.

</div></div>

Maybe he was meaning all 50 some odd cards spread out acoss a big ol sheet of steel....at 1000m....maybe... he did say a "DECK" of cards

 

[19Scout77]

Re: Parallax for 10x scope - Really needed?

One more thing Adam- A standard playing card is 2.5"x3.5", so looks like your BS just got a little tougher to believe.

 

[Dagsta]

Re: Parallax for 10x scope - Really needed?

I think with a little luck I could hit the guy shuffling the deck!! lol

 

[sobrbiker883]

Re: Parallax for 10x scope - Really needed?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dagsta</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I think with a little luck I could hit the guy shuffling the deck!! lol </div></div>
Pretty sure I could get a round on the big green table.....



Just so Adam doesn't miss the invite:
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lowlight</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Seeing how Adam is around Houston I will pay for his gas, hotel and give $500 to Charity (Wounded Warrior) if he can hit a deck of cards at 1000m at Rifles Only. I may even give him more than one shot.

Only a couple hour drive from Houston to Kingsville, we have Precision Rifle Class starting March 14th, so he can put on a clinic for everyone. I'll bring the cards, he can bring the rifle and his mad skillz. </div></div>

 

[Slapchop]

Re: Parallax for 10x scope - Really needed?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Adamxdavis</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm asking bc I need to be able to shoot the size of deck of cards width at 1000m. Just hitting a plate thats 12x12 isnt't going to work for my application. <span style="color: #FF0000">Those who are in the know shiuld be able to figure out what I am called upon to do at times.</span> Thanks for the information though gents. </div></div>

 

[Flyingbullseye]

Re: Parallax for 10x scope - Really needed?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Adamxdavis</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm asking bc I need to be able to shoot the size of deck of cards width at 1000m. Just hitting a plate thats 12x12 isnt't going to work for my application. Those who are in the know shiuld be able to figure out what I am called upon to do at times. </div></div>

I knew this sounded familiar.
http://lonelymachines.org/mall-ninjas/

Flyingbullseye

 

[YN*Dotte]

Re: Parallax for 10x scope - Really needed?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Flyingbullseye</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Adamxdavis</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm asking bc I need to be able to shoot the size of deck of cards width at 1000m. Just hitting a plate thats 12x12 isnt't going to work for my application. Those who are in the know shiuld be able to figure out what I am called upon to do at times. </div></div>

I knew this sounded familiar.
http://lonelymachines.org/mall-ninjas/

Flyingbullseye </div></div>

LMAO, I was searching for this earlier today but couldn't find it.

 

[BCP]

Re: Parallax for 10x scope - Really needed?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BaileyMoto</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Reason I ask, I am still torn between the NF 2.5-10 and the Leupold 3.5-10 M5.</div></div>

I thought you bought a bushnell 3-12 for that? And to answer your question no, you do not need parallax adjustment to shoot targets at 200 and steel at 600 with a 10 or less power scope.

 

[5RWill]

Re: Parallax for 10x scope - Really needed?

I had initially settled on the Leupold M3 3.5-10x40mm FFP. But after thinking it over and realize i could mil with a SFP just on a set power. I'm going with the M3 with illumination in SFP. I like the idea of a 40mm Objective and parallax adjustment. The argument of weather it is needed or not is subject to the owner and they're eyesight. I would personally rather have the parallax adjustment than not have it just in case i'm one of the few who's eyes don't agree with the NF at long ranges. And while i know NF is better than leupold, i feel that the leupold will do more than i need for the SPR role.

 

[jlficken]

Re: Parallax for 10x scope - Really needed?

If the glass is good I say no. I have it on my SS 10x42 HD but don't touch it. I just set it on 200 yds and leave it there.


I was also told that on a USO ST-10 it isn't really necessary by one of the dealers on this site.

 

[5RWill]

Re: Parallax for 10x scope - Really needed?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jlficken</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If the glass is good I say no. I have it on my SS 10x42 HD but don't touch it. I just set it on 200 yds and leave it there.


I was also told that on a USO ST-10 it isn't really necessary by one of the dealers on this site.</div></div>

While i truly am a USO fan. Seriously adore they're scopes there is a downside. Being built like a tank comes with a price and that is weight. While I know the ST-10 is lighter than my SN-3 i'm willing to bet it's still heavier than the leupy or the NF. Well my version would be because i would want the ergo for sure.

 

[adam1122]

Re: Parallax for 10x scope - Really needed?

Ok, my choice of words was apparently too arrogant for you guys. I need to take head shots at 1000 yards..not Meters (typo...excuse me).

Do most of you guys shoot once a month or something? Or deer rifles with fixed power $400 scopes? Im curious as to how often and how much yall shoot. Im not being defensive but pretty much any clown can go buy a cheytac .416 with ballistic computer and make first round hits at 8x8 steel plates...the science of target ranging, ambient air temp, windage (alot of it has been taken out of the shooters equation) by handheld weather stations. if you have the right gear these types of shots with todays high powered rifles and custom rifles are nothing special.