Parallels of a coup attempt in 1992 Venezuela and 2016-19 USA

[ArmyJerry]

So today we are getting verification that the 3 year long coup attempt by the deep state, the DEm and Repub parties has failed.

I want to remind all that back in 1992 Hugo Chavez’s attempted a coup against the government of Venezuela, at the time one of the oldest continuous democracies in Latin America..He attempted this coup after affiliating himself with local socialist movements and realizing he could use these movements to gain dictatorial power over a democratically elected covernment of a country, then proceed to destroy the individual rights the citizens had until that time enjoyed,,,

Well his first coup attempt failed and because the country was a mix of Latin law and Common law at the time he was not given the death penalty, he was sentenced to a few years in jail for treason..

Back to the USA of today.... We have now verified that a active coup attempt has been on going for the past 3 years at least and probably longer.. We know our federal agencies have been weaponized against anyone not of the deep state which is 99.9% of the rest of the country..,,, we know the lying to fisa judges,,, we know fisa judges looked the other way and did not do anything about the perjury til this very day,,we know the pass given to party members for the most treasonous of crimes,,, we know the actual collusion of our own FBI , our own Democrat and Republican parties working in concert with a Foreign Agent named Christopher Steele of MI 6 to attempt a coup.. we know of the weaponized of the IRS, NSA, CIA, ... We now know Obama has been deeply involved the whole way based on Lisa Pages testimony, we know of thousands of perjured testimonies hat have not even been charged, a lot of them on TV and live,, we know of massive destruction of evidence,,, 30 k Email’s and the non prosecution for such,,, we basically know that our government on DC is fully corrupted..

Do we let them get away with it and let them come back another day in the near future and turn the USA into a pet eating despotic country or do we ensure we get justice right now,,, full on tribunals carried out by the Military as the Justice department will be on trial.. demand the gallows?
Keep in mind the SCOTUS will be on trial also, Roberts is the Chief FISA judge and has read every fisa warrant request,, he is complicit.


Mark my words if tribunals and justice is not metted out for the perpetratotrs they will come back with the full force of the corrupt state to destroy any opposition in the near future..They dont play by the rules of law.

 

[SilentStalkr]

So today we are getting verification that the 3 year long coup attempt by the deep state, the DEm and Repub parties has failed.

I want to remind all that back in 1992 Hugo Chavez’s attempted a coup against the government of Venezuela, at the time one of the oldest continuous democracies in Latin America..He attempted this coup after affiliating himself with local socialist movements and realizing he could use these movements to gain dictatorial power over a democratically elected covernment of a country, then proceed to destroy the individual rights the citizens had until that time enjoyed,,,

Well his first coup attempt failed and because the country was a mix of Latin law and Common law at the time he was not given the death penalty, he was sentenced to a few years in jail for treason..

Back to the USA of today.... We have now verified that a active coup attempt has been on going for the past 3 years at least and probably longer.. We know our federal agencies have been weaponized against anyone not of the deep state which is 99.9% of the rest of the country..,,, we know the lying to fisa judges,,, we know fisa judges looked the other way and did not do anything about the perjury til this very day,,we know the pass given to party members for the most treasonous of crimes,,, we know the actual collusion of our own FBI , our own Democrat and Republican parties working in concert with a Foreign Agent named Christopher Steele of MI 6 to attempt a coup.. we know of the weaponized of the IRS, NSA, CIA, ... We now know Obama has been deeply involved the whole way based on Lisa Pages testimony, we know of thousands of perjured testimonies hat have not even been charged, a lot of them on TV and live,, we know of massive destruction of evidence,,, 30 k Email’s and the non prosecution for such,,, we basically know that our government on DC is fully corrupted..

Do we let them get away with it and let them come back another day in the near future and turn the USA into a pet eating despotic country or do we ensure we get justice right now,,, full on tribunals carried out by the Military as the Justice department will be on trial.. demand the gallows?
Keep in mind the SCOTUS will be on trial also, Roberts is the Chief FISA judge and has read every fisa warrant request,, he is complicit.


Mark my words if tribunals and justice is not metted out for the perpetratotrs they will come back with the full force of the corrupt state to destroy any opposition in the near future..They dont play by the rules of law.

Let’s be honest, just about everyone in that city is complicit. It’s not a two party system. It’s one party under the guise of playing a two party system. It has served those in power well for many many years. Most of America is none the wiser of it and they continue to get played. It’s time to get rid of them all but active mil is not going to do crap nor is anyone in that city. It falls on the people to act. In fact, this could be a case for exactly why the 2A is necessary. The American people have probably been getting played for the better part of 200 years.

If you think about it, I don’t know of one group of the gov that is held accountable for anything. If they are they are held accountable to each other. If they are all in on it, then there is no accountability ever and when was the last time there was some? Sadly, nothing is going to change and these people will continue to rob us all for their own gain because they know nothing will ever happen to them. There are plenty of examples where the people should have acted and crickets. The most notable that quickly comes to my mind is the IRS scandal. We should have been holding them to the fire then as that is blatant abuse of power and the fact that nothing happened only emboldened them more. No sir, it’s gone. The only thing that gives me hope is that I know eventually, there will be pushback, I just don’t know how long it will take for Americans to become fed up enough to do something about it. Maybe once taxes hit 50%? Who knows. Part of me wants to believe there will be a chance and a pushback but the negative side reminds me that there has been plenty that should have already been acted on and nothing was done.

 

[Blutroop]

We need to clean house

 

[Nik H]

I keep hearing that there will be Grand Jury indictments coming but I surely doubt it.

To really be honest, what can be done about any of it? Not a lot...maybe nothing. The phrase "deep state" doesn't do it justice. There are many levels and the connection scheme is so complex that one would never know if the true perpetuators of the system were removed. It includes the government, the intelligence agencies and the military industrial complex. Remember that phrase from long ago? It hasn't gone away. Through the use of technology, it has become more powerful than ever.

The whole thing runs like a black program. For every segment, there is a white counterpart. The white counterparts are who and what we see. The black side is what we never see and will likely never see.

The leaders are truly faceless individuals...it isn't Soros..he is a stooge.

 

[W54/XM-388]

The leaders are truly faceless individuals...it isn't Soros..he is a stooge.

Exactly. Not many folks understand that.
Much like I am fairly certain that Facebook did not become the global dominating household tech name that it is "organically".

 

[Dewey7271]

Big shock, the whole thing was a nothingburger.
On the OP, good comparison. IMO, if I believed there was still such a thing as an unbiased, non-political judiciary then I would say arrest em and try them. In the absence of the unbiased judiciary, an obvious solution occurs but the ramifications and ripples of that solution would be irreversible and potentially world and life changing and I am afraid the support for such a solution would erode as soon as it started.
Face it, Clint Eastwood said it correctly and with the exception of most here, I hope, “this is a nation of pussies”.

 

[SilentStalkr]

I keep hearing that there will be Grand Jury indictments coming but I surely doubt it.

To really be honest, what can be done about any of it? Not a lot...maybe nothing. The phrase "deep state" doesn't do it justice. There are many levels and the connection scheme is so complex that one would never know if the true perpetuators of the system were removed. It includes the government, the intelligence agencies and the military industrial complex. Remember that phrase from long ago? It hasn't gone away. Through the use of technology, it has become more powerful than ever.

The whole thing runs like a black program. For every segment, there is a white counterpart. The white counterparts are who and what we see. The black side is what we never see and will likely never see.

The leaders are truly faceless individuals...it isn't Soros..he is a stooge.

Exactly but that don’t mean people can’t try. You don’t think a few hundred thousand armed people marching on DC and demanding change wouldn’t do anything?? I bet it would raise some eyebrows, enough to coerce them at least change a little because if they don’t and they keep this BS then their house will burn to the ground. It might take some time but it can be done. You can start by getting people more involved in local politics and having the scum removed from their seats. If that doesn’t work, there is bold but peaceful outright protests, if that doesn’t work there are enough ways to scare people into submission and finally the house can still be burned down. They may wind up doing that part themselves lol. I just don’t think Americans are like any other people on earth. It’s engrained in our blood not to be ruled, disarmed or not, American people will fight once they have been driven close enough to the edge. It’s harder and harder to believe that but I sincerely do. Many of us on here have past relatives that had everything to do with the building of this great country, it’s in our DNA to not sit idly by and be ruled. We just ain’t like that. Guess it just depends on how quick they want to try and go all in.

 

[ArmyJerry]

Will probably have to be imploded and that’s probably what we are witnessing

 

[Nik H]

Exactly but that don’t mean people can’t try. You don’t think a few hundred thousand armed people marching on DC and demanding change wouldn’t do anything?? I bet it would raise some eyebrows, enough to coerce them at least change a little because if they don’t and they keep this BS then their house will burn to the ground. It might take some time but it can be done. You can start by getting people more involved in local politics and having the scum removed from their seats. If that doesn’t work, there is bold but peaceful outright protests, if that doesn’t work there are enough ways to scare people into submission and finally the house can still be burned down. They may wind up doing that part themselves lol. I just don’t think Americans are like any other people on earth. It’s engrained in our blood not to be ruled, disarmed or not, American people will fight once they have been driven close enough to the edge. It’s harder and harder to believe that but I sincerely do. Many of us on here have past relatives that had everything to do with the building of this great country, it’s in our DNA to not sit idly by and be ruled. We just ain’t like that. Guess it just depends on how quick they want to try and go all in.

I love your exuberance but let's be realistic for once and stay grounded.

1. A march of 100K or a million ARMED people would never happen. You need a permit to march in DC and you would never get it.
2. You would raise lots of eyebrows. Open carry is illegal in DC so you would be in violation of several firearm laws. Therefore, you would go to jail and lose the ability to own firearms anywhere. You going to shoot the cops when they come to get you?
3. Not debating local politics but that don't work where I live. We continue to try to vote them out and support the candidates that support our rights but in all honesty, they are generally mouth breathers or woefully inadequate to compete against the enemies who are profoundly more articulate. Where I live is a lost cause. Hopefully where you live isn't.
4. Scare people into submission...that is good. Let me know when that starts. I'll get the popcorn going. Why do you think that Red flag laws are becoming more and more popular. You will see it on a Federal level soon enough.
5. Your comment on Americans is no longer true. Many of us are as you describe for many reasons. My parents came here legally in the late 50s to escape communist/socialist rule in Greece. My parents would be calling for the overthrow of this Government. That is still a strong trait for me but my kids...not so much. My kids are not atypical either. Most of the younger generation thinks opposite to your views so winning them over is likely to be a monumental if not insurmountable task. If that cunt Hillary didn't Shanghai the nomination, Bernie would be POTUS right now. Trump would have lost big time. The large majority of Americans are a caricature from the movie Network. There is no "Mad as Hell" anymore and people will not do a damn thing until their comforts are degraded and then it will be too late. The rulers know not to take away the comfort until the firearm issue is dealt with...then nothing will be possible.

Even if the people in your geography are as you describe, the rest of the country isn't. An armed uprising is a fantasy as much as I wished it weren't. In my opinion, the only way to get out of this requires a strong cataclysm or a master reset. Something that will be external and disrupt everyones' lives to the extent where it will polarize them to action. That can come in many forms. That is why I say little and make sure I am prepared to the best of my ability. The biggest part of preparedness being the finding and alignment with other people in your AO.

That being said.....My opinion is worth only what you paid for it

 

[SilentStalkr]

I love your exuberance but let's be realistic for once and stay grounded.

1. A march of 100K or a million ARMED people would never happen. You need a permit to march in DC and you would never get it.
2. You would raise lots of eyebrows. Open carry is illegal in DC so you would be in violation of several firearm laws. Therefore, you would go to jail and lose the ability to own firearms anywhere. You going to shoot the cops when they come to get you?
3. Not debating local politics but that don't work where I live. We continue to try to vote them out and support the candidates that support our rights but in all honesty, they are generally mouth breathers or woefully inadequate to compete against the enemies who are profoundly more articulate. Where I live is a lost cause. Hopefully where you live isn't.
4. Scare people into submission...that is good. Let me know when that starts. I'll get the popcorn going. Why do you think that Red flag laws are becoming more and more popular. You will see it on a Federal level soon enough.
5. Your comment on Americans is no longer true. Many of us are as you describe for many reasons. My parents came here legally in the late 50s to escape communist/socialist rule in Greece. My parents would be calling for the overthrow of this Government. That is still a strong trait for me but my kids...not so much. My kids are not atypical either. Most of the younger generation thinks opposite to your views so winning them over is likely to be a monumental if not insurmountable task. If that cunt Hillary didn't Shanghai the nomination, Bernie would be POTUS right now. Trump would have lost big time. The large majority of Americans are a caricature from the movie Network. There is no "Mad as Hell" anymore and people will not do a damn thing until their comforts are degraded and then it will be too late. The rulers know not to take away the comfort until the firearm issue is dealt with...then nothing will be possible.

Even if the people in your geography are as you describe, the rest of the country isn't. An armed uprising is a fantasy as much as I wished it weren't. In my opinion, the only way to get out of this requires a strong cataclysm or a master reset. Something that will be external and disrupt everyones' lives to the extent where it will polarize them to action. That can come in many forms. That is why I say little and make sure I am prepared to the best of my ability. The biggest part of preparedness being the finding and alignment with other people in your AO.

That being said.....My opinion is worth only what you paid for it

I’ll respond later but in a nutshell, all it takes is people to act. If you think a few hundred thousand people are going to ask for permission to protest first lol, then you are dreaming. Same thing with breaking laws in DC. That’s laughable. If you could really coordinate such an effort DC wouldn’t have a damn chance of enforcing anything. Lmao. Do you think any of those involved in the riots a couple years back asked for a permit to protest first? How many of them were arrested? Now think about a couple hundred thousand of people like that armed. Do you really think any police in DC would touch that or have a chance of enforcing anything? That’s hilarious. Will it ever happen? Probably not. All it takes is people act though. But in my 38 years on this rock, I’ve learned one thing really well, most people are lazy!!!!!! So until they have to they won’t do crap. But if it ever did happen I think it would be super effective. It would certainly remind them who runs the show at the end of the day.

I think what pisses me off the most is that there are those within our own ranks that have hundreds of thousands of followers, some when in the millions on all kinds of forms of social media that could get such numbers of people like that to act. All they’d have to do is make a video saying we are going to protest in DC, we are getting buses and meeting here, join us on such and such date and I think you’d be amazed at what would happen. Problem is, none of those with such swing are doing anything, which I find interesting in itself. In fact some of them yell about nobody is doing anything and not to support the NRA and such and such, we need to do more, all while coming back and screaming about giving money to the GOA and that’s all you can do. Lol. It’s like they want you to do more but aren’t really doing anymore themselves lol.

 

[oneshot86]

americans cant put together a block sale, verses an armed march on DC...

 

[Nik H]

I’ll respond later but in a nutshell, all it takes is people to act. If you think a few hundred thousand people are going to ask for permission to protest first lol, then you are dreaming. Same thing with breaking laws in DC. That’s laughable. If you could really coordinate such an effort DC wouldn’t have a damn chance of enforcing anything. Lmao. Do you think any of those involved in the riots a couple years back asked for a permit to protest first? How many of them were arrested? Now think about a couple hundred thousand of people like that armed. Do you really think any police in DC would touch that or have a chance of enforcing anything? That’s hilarious. Will it ever happen? Probably not. All it takes is people act though. But in my 38 years on this rock, I’ve learned one thing really well, most people are lazy!!!!!! So until they have to they won’t do crap. But if it ever did happen I think it would be super effective. It would certainly remind them who runs the show at the end of the day.

I think what pisses me off the most is that there are those within our own ranks that have hundreds of thousands of followers, some when in the millions on all kinds of forms of social media that could get such numbers of people like that to act. All they’d have to do is make a video saying we are going to protest in DC, we are getting buses and meeting here, join us on such and such date and I think you’d be amazed at what would happen. Problem is, none of those with such swing are doing anything, which I find interesting in itself. In fact some of them yell about nobody is doing anything and not to support the NRA and such and such, we need to do more, all while coming back and screaming about giving money to the GOA and that’s all you can do. Lol. It’s like they want you to do more but aren’t really doing anymore themselves lol.

As I said...I wish you luck. I will enjoy watching the march on DC with everyone carrying.

If you think that the government will do nothing, I will take that bet any day of the week.

 

[Nik H]

americans cant put together a block sale, verses an armed march on DC...

My point exactly

 

[SilentStalkr]

americans cant put together a block sale, verses an armed march on DC...

Yes! And I think it’s sad!

 

[ArmyJerry]

I am warning you that if these people dont hang for this they will be hanging us in the near future,,, happens every time,, they have no compunction on hanging patriots for made up crimes yet pretend patriots will excuse make for these mother fuckers all the way up the stairs and until the noose is coming over their head.... they must hang for this and hang now..

 

[SilentStalkr]

As I said...I wish you luck. I will enjoy watching the march on DC with everyone carrying.

If you think that the government will do nothing, I will take that bet any day of the week.

If I was one of these big media guys with the pull it would have already been done. Think about it, almost any large advocate could do this, but there is crickets. How many members does the NRA have? The GOA? How many gun clubs in America are there? If they all got together on it it could easily be something. Yet there is crickets. When all these guys tell me they support the 2A yet aren’t doing these things, it makes me question the validity of their statements. You can’t claim to have this kind of swing and to support the 2A but then not use your pull to do something that may really do something for the 2A. I think most of them just do it for money under the guise of giving a shit for the 2A.

 

[W54/XM-388]

If that cunt Hillary didn't Shanghai the nomination, Bernie would be POTUS right now. Trump would have lost big time.

That has a very good chance of being true.

 

[Nik H]

That has a very good chance of being true.

That is why I take everything that the bartender, AOC, says very seriously. The millennial and younger crowd is crazy