Personal Property Ins. Coverage?

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How many of you have personal property coverage on your rifles through your insurance agency?

Im moving to a new insurance agency and need to get personal property coverage on at least my most valuable rifles.

Do any of you insure your arsenal via renters insurance, or did you use personal property insurance...and other than maximum coverage..why did you choose one over the other?

I was suprised as to how cheep it is...
 
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KS, I was told that you can go with renters ins. for general/mainstream handguns and such that arent valued at more than what you ins. company has its maximum set at.

For example...AARP has a maximum of $2,500.00 per claim for an individual gun under renters ins. That would be fine for a handgun valued at less than $2,500. You wouldnt want to put your
GAP 338 with an S&B on renters ins. though. That would require to have personal property coverage....if you wanted any more than what you would get out of a claim under renters ins.

What sucks is that they dont care what your insureing under renters...untill it comes time to make a claim.
Personal propery...they want every last little finite detail about your $6,500 boom-stick, although in the long run, its probably worth the peace of mind.

I was quoted at something like $7.00 a month for $2,500 in renters ins. (which is the minimum for AARP).

Personal Property all depends on what all your covering and its value.
 
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I had all of my firearms and my wife's jewelry listed with my homeowners insurance. As long as you have documented pictures and assigned values, they can be added to the policy for a nominal fee. Renters insurance is quite different apparently. Private insurance with a company that specializes with firearms my be the way to go in that situation.

You may want to check this out:

http://www.locktonaffinity.com/nrains/armscareplus.htm

I have it now on the house I am renting.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Fred_C_Dobbs</div><div class="ubbcode-body">My premiums run $1 per year per $66 in value through USAA. </div></div>

that is 1.5% of value per year. Seems the range is 1-2% in the open market, regardless of provider.

Look at the T's and C's and see if you can live with them - they vary on documentation requirements, how they determine replacement value, $$ versus like replacement item, etc etc etc.
 
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9H nailed it on the head, make sure you read how replacement value is replaced. on mine, i get full dollar without a depreciation schedule. My previous insurance claimed they did replacement value, well they did, but then depreciated it over the years I had it. That ticked me off when I had to file a claim. Hence, new policy.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: _9H</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Fred_C_Dobbs</div><div class="ubbcode-body">My premiums run $1 per year per $66 in value through USAA. </div></div>

that is 1.5% of value per year. Seems the range is 1-2% in the open market, regardless of provider.

Look at the T's and C's and see if you can live with them - they vary on documentation requirements, how they determine replacement value, $$ versus like replacement item, etc etc etc.
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Most renters and homeowner insurance policies have limits for some perils of loss such as theft. Ask your insurance agent about such caps. I have all of my guns insured under a scheduled personal property policy, with my homeowners insurance company. All of the guns are listed with stated values and all perils of loss, except for flood, are covered up to value.
 
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First off, forget what you read here about coverages and rates unless you live in that state as all are different, even with same companies.

All 50 states have insurance commissioners and departments that set the specific rules for that state, with only authorized types of policies and coverages allowed and they are all different from state to state, even with the same company.

The insurance companies MUST go by the rules set in that state and premium and coverage formulas set by the Insurance Commissioner/Department. that is why you will differences from state to state with the same company.

Normally, firearms and other high value items (defined in the actual policy) are only covered to a very limited amount and you must normally add a specific rider to cover firearms and other "high dollar" items. You must list each item, they may require pictures and appraisals and then you pay a specific premium based on each $1000 of desired coverage.

Also, beware you can get normal "depreciated" value or "full replacement value" coverage. Recommend full replacement value and have the agent to explain specifically how it works and take notes. On the depreciated, they take the normal method is to take either the original cost or replacement value, subtract the depreciation and pay what they feel it is worth today.

On full replacement, they normally with your replacement estimates pay a depreciated value initially UNTIL you actually replace it, send them the receipt and then they pay you the replacement value difference.

IF your agent tells you something that is not written specifically in the policy, the written policy language rules and you can sue the agent under "Errors and Omissions" and not the company.

Guess what I did in a previous life?
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Im moving to USAA, and saving close to 30% on auto alone.

Bounty, you will probably be getting a few PM's from me over the next week of so as I set up my policy...not asking you to hold my hand, but some general guidance aside from what you have already laid down would be much appreciated if you dont mind.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Wheres-Waldo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Im moving to USAA, and saving close to 30% on auto alone.

</div></div> A wise choice. Anyone military owes to themselves to at least check them out. I'm nothing more than a customer of them with nothing to gain, but I will definitely give them their due credit.

When I lived in south Florida and took damage on my home from Hurricane Charlie, I had a visit from them (two days) and a check in my hand (five days) faster than most residents got a return call from most of the other big names. The adjuster was even pointing out damage I was missing.
 
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We have total replacement coverage on everything. It costs us a bit more, but if we get burned out, or storm outed(other than flood)we are good for total replacement cost on inventory. I think Panty 6 pays somewhere north of $200 a month or so. If the guns are in the truck and get stolen, coverage is $5,000 per item, as in, scope $2500, barrlel action $2500, stock $1000, rings and bases $500. My agent explaine that I can claim each item independantly of the end item since they are a system of parts not part of the truck or bolted to it.
It's a pretty sweet policy and like I said, she pays a tidy sum for it.
 
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Included in/added into my homeowners policy are firearms & accessories, jewelry, and some valuables. All items have been photographed, serial numbers etc. documented, and some appraised. All of these records are kept in our safe deposit box at our bank. Items are insured for appraised/replacement value. Additional cost in our premium per month is about $40/ month.

AS others have stated insurance laws vary by state and policies and coverages vary by company. Be sure to clarify with your ageny and actually take the time to read the policy. I'm not an insurance agent and actually had to have my agent explain several things to me....don't be afraid to ask!
 
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My homeowners policy from USAA was just changed to include $10K of firearms coverage in the base policy. I am in Virginia.