Physical Fitness

[SRT411]

I have been a SWAT Operator for 5yrs and have recently been give the task of "revamping" the sniper program for my team to include a PT assessment and new Qual course. I've been reading forums and keep seeing the Police Sniper Functional Fitness Test. Can anyone tell me where I can get a copy of this test. Also can anyone recommend a good Qual course. The current course is as follows:

1. 1 round Cold bore in 1 minute at a 1" circle
2. 2 rounds in 2 minutes at a 2" circle
3. 3 rounds in 2 minutes at a 2" circle
4. A 4 minute run, followed by 4 rounds in 4 minutes at a 2" circle.

This seems way to simple to me and I'm looking to "Tighten-up" our program and take it to the next level. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

 

[weemsw]

Re: Physical Fitness

The functional fitness test I think you are talking about is from the American Sniper Association. They may be able to help you out. As far as the qual course, I would definately put in shots at different ranges and shooting positions. We have shots from 100, 75, 50, 25, and moving in from the 25, standing, kneeling, and sitting. I am looking to change our course also but that would be a start.

 

[rkgsmith]

Re: Physical Fitness

Here's ours Run from 200 to 100 fire 2 in 28 sec
200 yd prone 4 in 40 sec
150 yd benchtop 4 in 36 sec
100 yd prone 4 in 28 sec
75 yd sitting 2 in 14 sec
50 yd kneeling 2 in 12 sec
25 yd standing 2 in 10 sec
Total rnds = 20 Must be 100% in a face target that has
a thin line drawn in just the face area
no hair, measures about 700 sq inches.
This is Md. training comm certified.

 

[Jeff Given]

Re: Physical Fitness

That just doesn't seem great considering all of the liabilities. 100 yards prone within 4 moa? I know it's a kill, but just seems like a bit of tolerance there.

I shot with a swat officer one day while experimenting with load development and he was literally amazed with my groups at 100 yards. It was load development, nothing spectacular. His groups, were around 4" or so...not much "tactical" or "precise" about that...

 

[Advokaten]

Re: Physical Fitness

The difference between,

real world use and demand and what we/you think is demanded.

Try and shoot the course as stated above and evalute your result.

/Chris

 

[rkgsmith]

Re: Physical Fitness

Jeff, while the course on it's face seems simple, it is based on a state standard. We cannot make up a course that is extremely difficult, nor extremely easy. When we shoot it we strive to keep all rounds under the base of a Dunkin Donuts coffee cup, and usually bet a coffee a round. Not sure of your occupation, but in the real world if the shot calls for a MOA shot then chances are I'm not taking it. If my margin of error is an inch thats just too close, too many things can go wrong. You can save a thousand, but hit one hostage and the only thing everybody is going to remember is the innocent person that the cop shot.

 

[wnroscoe]

Re: Physical Fitness

http://www.combatshootingandtactics.com/standards.htm

 

[WhiskeyWebber]

Re: Physical Fitness

Why not add in some deadlifts to simulate moving furniture to build a position for a shot? Say, 225X5 right before one of the short shots.

 

[saintsfire]

Re: Physical Fitness

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: WhiskeyWebber</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Why not add in some deadlifts to simulate moving furniture to build a position for a shot? Say, 225X5 right before one of the short shots.</div></div>

Or 315 deadlift. Listening to the crashing plates will make you feel like a beast before taking that shot.

 

[AussieShooter]

Re: Physical Fitness

Anything that emulates the maximum possible situation one could find themselves in would quantify good mission training. A stair master with full kit would replicate a team member having to get ready for a breach from a stairwell.
Things like that.

 

[moots]

Re: Physical Fitness

Gym is a guys name....RIGHT?

 

[SouthFork]

Re: Physical Fitness

Throw in a ladder climb and shooting off a elevated two story position. If elevated shooting is not available. Two sets of climbing up and down a ladder. Full body exercise is what really gets the heart rate up for me.

 

[moots]

Re: Physical Fitness

Get you a kettle bell the book by Jeff Marton