Well I am going to buy a pistol can in the near future. I had settled on the rugged obsidian 45. I was looking over other suppressors this morning an was reading up on the hybrid 46. Long story short I am going to buy another rifle can too, but the hybrid 46 could be used for this. The problem is, is the hybrid 46 to heavy for a can that will mostly be used on a pistol, say glock 21?
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Suppressors Pistol suppressor weight
- Thread starter kcbird
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Well that sucks I don't have a lot of experience with suppressed pistols. I have shot my buddy's FN with a liberty cosmic which I thought was very comfortable. This is what kind of gave me the bug for a larger pistol suppressor. I was just trying to kill 2 birds with one stone. I guess if you want something durable enough for rifle calibers your going to sacrifice the weight.
Yep, thats the crux of the issue, doing the low pressure pistol part is easy cake, its the 45-70 etc that really causes an issue.
I have an osprey and my cousin has an omega 9k
The osprey is a bit quieter but its also 2x as long but for a pistol its the best with its offset mass below the sights. For a straight pistol I think the osprey is best.
The omega 9k is awesome on my cousins ar9, it works great on his glock too sound wise but it also sticks up in front of the sights more. Feels like much more when shooting even though its only actually a small amount more than the osprey. For a pistol+ PCC I think the omega 9k is best.
For putting it on anything else with real pressures the hybrid is the best option because its heavy and thick enough material to handle them.
If you thought the Cosmic pointed comfortably, you might not mind the weight of any of them on pistols.
The Hybrid is actually a highly under rated rifle can, imo... I wouldn't hesitate to buy one if it fits your rifle suppression needs. That way you can see if you like it as a pistol suppressor as well and if not it gives you another point of reference towards finding one that you will like.
The Hybrid is actually a highly under rated rifle can, imo... I wouldn't hesitate to buy one if it fits your rifle suppression needs. That way you can see if you like it as a pistol suppressor as well and if not it gives you another point of reference towards finding one that you will like.
That's the problem I already have rifle suppressors. If it doesn't work for a pistol can then I really just have another rifle can in the line up and still no pistol can. I am probably just going to go with a light dedicated pistol can and call it a day.
I was leaning toward the osprey hard for a while, but I want it to be user serviceable also.
I really do appreciate the help and opinions guys. Ya'll know how it is, can't just run to the local gun shop and finger one at least not where i live.
I really do appreciate the help and opinions guys. Ya'll know how it is, can't just run to the local gun shop and finger one at least not where i live.
I bought a Dead Air Ghost. it's a 45 can so I can shoot 9mm, 40, 44 and 45 thru it. It will handle 300 subs as well. The nice part for me is it's got an extra 3 baffles that are removeable, so if I want it light weight for a 9mm pistol I can shoot it in the short configuration, or go full size/length if I want quiet and not as concerned with weight or length (like on a PCC or 44 special lever gun).
9.6oz short configuration
12oz in long
9.6oz short configuration
12oz in long
That's a good call. Imo, even rifle cans should be serviceable these days as we're long past the dogma of "cans clean themselves".
Not being able to shoot them before buying definitely makes it harder. Even if you could trust suppression numbers were tested on equal footing (which they are not); what looks good on paper doesn't always equal success in the real world.
I certainly haven't shot all of the options available, but of the ones I have my thoughts are...
If the Osprey was serviceable I still think it's among the best options available.
The one I would have never even considered until I saw it in person was the Bowers ASP. Still too fat, but dang that thing feels like a feather despite not being a small can. Too bad it doesn't have a Neilson device so it's a really a 45 only can. Despite being so light; the ASP with 9mm would not cycle reliably enough for my tastes. Maybe it would be fine with +P, but I didn't have any with me at the time.
I really liked the Odessa 9, only handled it one time, but I liked it so much I have one sitting in jail right now. My opinion may change with extended use, but my initial impression was very positive. Probably, doesn't do you much good though since you want a 45 can.
For what it's worth, to my ear (no fancy meter to test against) the Obsidian is at least as quiet if not quieter than any pistol can I've shot. The Ghost is a nice suppressor in it's own right, but shooting the Obsidian and Ghost side by side I would go Obsidian every time. If you can handle the weight and width it's a very well built can. It just turned out that the quietest wasn't as important to me over the long run as I thought it would be when I bought mine.
I have a Ghost as well, got it with my Nomad when DA was having the buy one get a Ghost half off sale. Very fun and versatile can. Underrated IMO. Plus you can use a wipe in it. If that is something you are into.
I've looked at the wolfman, it will take up too a 7.62x39. I probably wont ever suppress my AK and I would at least want it to handle 308.
If I was going to be using it on a rifle 95% of the time I wouldn't worry about the weight as much. This is going to be on a pistol 95% of the time though. Just damn near dedicated but not quite.
If I was going to be using it on a rifle 95% of the time I wouldn't worry about the weight as much. This is going to be on a pistol 95% of the time though. Just damn near dedicated but not quite.
I'm sure you're aware, but the ATF ruled users possessing wipes are a no-no as they are considered possessing replacement suppressor parts. That's why you can't buy them from Deadair. Making your own is also a no-no as it's considered manufacturing. Both require the proper license.
Sure, you can still get 'wipe replacement dealers' to install a wipe for you... but that just isn't ideal, imo, as wipes only make a big difference for the first 5-10 rounds.
Really a shame for Deadair and customers that already had them sitting in jail thinking they could replace wipes themselves whenever they wanted only to have the ATF change their mind after a product had been released and was being sold.
Yes, I am aware. And that's all I got to say about that.
my ghost came with 2 wipes. I guess it's handy that there's sometimes one in the can and I always keep the new spare in the box just waiting for a good time to replace it.
Mine came the same way.my ghost came with 2 wipes. I guess it's handy that there's sometimes one in the can and I always keep the new spare in the box just waiting for a good time to replace it.
The Wolfman is also wipe capable, it is just a 1" faucet washer.
