Powder measures / Powder throwers question

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shadow4

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#1
I currently have a RCBS Chargemaster so I am not looking for another electronic automatic powder measure. It consistently throws +/- .2 grains most of the time which is acceptable I guess (I double check every charge on an RCBS 505). But I am looking for something a little quicker/hopefully more accurate powder thrower. A friend of mine has one that he has "tweaked" that throws +/- .1 grain consistently.

Does anybody have any experience with a particular brand or model that throws consistent powder weights with powders like Varget? I was looking at something like this:

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=759813

Thanks,

Keith

PS. I've already tried a couple of things to to get my Chargemaster a little more accurate/faster, so I am not looking new for ideas on how to make the Chargemaster better
 
#3
Re: Powder measures / Powder throwers question

you don't have to double check your charges from the Chargemaster. if you wait a second or two, the true weight of the charge appears, and if it is not your target weight, you can discard it and throw a new one.

i also have the Redding match grade measure. it is much faster, but not as accurate as the CM if you screen the charges as described above. i use charges thrown from the Redding for a lot of my shooting, but +/- .2 gr is to be expected from the thrown charges.
 
#4
Re: Powder measures / Powder throwers question

1sikpupi,

I do wait a second or two for the true weight to appear, but if you double check my chargemaster against another scale (which is what I do with all my charges before I dump them), then it is still +/- .2 grain about 30% of the time.......... OVERALL, my chargemaster is about 40 percent of the time dead nuts on, 30% of the time its +/- .1 grain, and that leaves the last 30% +/- .2 grains or more. So in total 60% of the time its wrong.

Like I said, I am not looking for ways to improve on the chargemaster, that's not what this thread is about. I want to know what powder throwers (other than electronic) other Hide members have had the best luck with. I do appreciate the info about the Redding measure though!

Thanks,

Keith
 
#5
Re: Powder measures / Powder throwers question

The RFD powder measure is the best out there I believe.Sinclair carries them.

I have a Harrels culver measure and have tried the Redding before.Me personally...I throw and weigh on the balance beam because every once in a while I get a +-.4gr WTF ,just throwing with medium grain sized Extruded powders.If I were going to be throwing all the time I'd pick a ball powder.

Steve
 
#7
Re: Powder measures / Powder throwers question

I have both a Harrells Precision and a Redding 3BR Measure and used them side by side. They are both excellent powder measures that will work for you and perform excellently. IMO, the Redding 3BR Measure proved to be more consistant and extremely smooth to operate.

I don't know what the best price is these days, but Sinclair has the Redding 3BR Measure in stock at $142.15 which is much less than I paid for my Harrells Precision measure.

I'd buy the Redding 3BR Measure if I was in your position.
 
#8
Re: Powder measures / Powder throwers question

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: shadow4</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I do wait a second or two for the true weight to appear, but if you double check my chargemaster against another scale (which is what I do with all my charges before I dump them), then it is still +/- .2 grain about 30% of the time.......... OVERALL, my chargemaster is about 40 percent of the time dead nuts on, 30% of the time its +/- .1 grain, and that leaves the last 30% +/- .2 grains or more. So in total 60% of the time its wrong.</div></div>

I'd have to agree with this. I was more impressed with my Chargemaster before I got a tuned 10-10 to double check it.
 
#9
Re: Powder measures / Powder throwers question

i trust electronic scales more than beam scales. i pretty much have not used my beam scale since the Dillon D-Terminator came out twenty years ago (give or take) and i reload every round i shoot.
 
#10
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rijndael</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: shadow4</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I do wait a second or two for the true weight to appear, but if you double check my chargemaster against another scale (which is what I do with all my charges before I dump them), then it is still +/- .2 grain about 30% of the time.......... OVERALL, my chargemaster is about 40 percent of the time dead nuts on, 30% of the time its +/- .1 grain, and that leaves the last 30% +/- .2 grains or more. So in total 60% of the time its wrong.</div></div>

I'd have to agree with this. I was more impressed with my Chargemaster before I got a tuned 10-10 to double check it. </div></div>

What is a 10-10 ?
 
#12
Re: Powder measures / Powder throwers question

Thanks for the info guys, I have the Redding Match Grade 3BR Powder Measure in route to my house. Hopefully this will speed things up a little. I tried out my 15 year old RCBS powder thrower the other day, and even though it varied as much as +/- .4 grains it seemed to be quicker than the Charge Master even though I had to trickle up/down a few tenths of a grain here and there. So if the Redding thrower is any more accurate than this one it should cut my reloading time down about 30-40% which is always a plus!
 
#13
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dmg308</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Harrells hands down the best I've used. </div></div>


This is so true.
 
#14
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dmg308</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Harrells hands down the best I've used. </div></div>

+1... I love mine.
 
#15
Re: Powder measures / Powder throwers question

I have four powder measures, a Lyman, RCBS, and two Lee Perfects. I can tell you that the Lee's are the most accurate of the four, especially with stick/extruded powders. I know they aren't considered bench grade measures, but they routinely drop within .1gr of the desired charge.
 
#16
Re: Powder measures / Powder throwers question

The issues of accuracy in the RCBS Chargemaster can be fixed with changing the power supply. The wall socket power supply is too erratic it varies all the time and that affects the accuracy.
You can measure it and watch the variances in the power supply at the wall socket.
The fix is running the RCBS Chargemaster off a large battery like a silicon gel type car battery which you charge with a transformer from the wall socket.
The other option is
http://quick-measure.com/index.htm when the power goes.
 
#18
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: btm_54</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The other option is http://quick-measure.com/index.htm when the power goes. </div></div>

Bought one, immediately sent it back for repair. Got it back, returned it the next day. Did not work as advertised and when there was an error, it was HUGE.
 
#19
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I have a Lee manual powder thrower, it's +/-0.1 grains with spherical ball powders which is most of what I shoot. I use a manual powder trickler for target ammo. I throw a charge that's about 1/4 grain shy of my desired point and then trickle in the last bit manually.

I timed myself, it takes about 18 seconds to throw a charge and trickle it when I get into the groove.

I spent the extra money on powder and bullets.

In a perfect world I'd buy an electronic one but for now I'd rather sit behind the rifle than the reloading bench.
 
#20
Re: Powder measures / Powder throwers question

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 1sikpupi</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> but +/- .2 gr is to be expected from the thrown charges. </div></div>

The two hornady's I've used are consistently +/- .1 grain
 
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