President-Elect Trump Announces Push for National Concealed Carry Reciprocity

[PatMiles]

https://www.breitbart.com/2nd-amendment/2024/11/11/president-elect-trump-announces-push-for-national-concealed-carry-reciprocity/

Over the weekend President-elect Donald Trump announced a push for national concealed carry reciprocity, a move which would make the concealed permit of any one state valid in the other 49.
On Sunday, Don Trump Jr. posted to Instagram, “Boom! My father just announced concealed carry reciprocity. The Second Amendment will stay and remain protected.”
Texas Gun Rights posted a video of Trump’s reciprocity announcement to X:On September 18, 2015, just months after Trump launched his first presidential campaign, Breitbart News pointed to policy papers wherein he said:

The right of self-defense doesn’t stop at the end of your driveway. That’s why I have a concealed carry permit and why tens of millions of Americans do too. That permit should be valid in all 50 states. A driver’s license works in every state, so it’s common sense that a concealed carry permit should work in every state. If we can do that for driving – which is a privilege, not a right – then surely we can do that for concealed carry, which is a right, not a privilege.

And during his 2020 presidential campaign Trump continued to support national reciprocity. During an interview with the NRA’s First Freedom, Trump was asked, “Mr. President, each state’s driver’s license is honored across this great nation, yet a permit to carry a concealed gun — which, in contrast, is a right specifically protected in the U.S. Bill of Rights — is often not respected by other states. Will you support a national reciprocity act so that law-abiding gun owners can more easily travel with their freedom?”
Trump’s response: “Yes.”
President-elect Trump is again signaling that national reciprocity for concealed carry will be an important goal for his administration.

 

[TheBigCountry]

Now do the hearing protection act to make suppressor purchases stupid easy

Repeal the ATF to boot

 

[lariat]

This is fraught with issues. This would not survive a Supreme Court hearing, primarily due to the 10th Amendment. But there is something else: if reciprocity can be forced upon the states in violation of the 10th that would open up the whole issue of federal oversight of abortion instead of the states. There would be other things that it could be used as precedent for. I don't see this as a good idea at all due to the potential knock-on effects.

 

[TACC]

It's a nice idea, but it will never pass, much less hold up in court

 

[Hecouldgoalltheway]

This is fraught with issues. This would not survive a Supreme Court hearing, primarily due to the 10th Amendment. But there is something else: if reciprocity can be forced upon the states in violation of the 10th that would open up the whole issue of federal oversight of abortion instead of the states. There would be other things that it could be used as precedent for. I don't see this as a good idea at all due to the potential knock-on effects.

Not how that works. The 10th ammendment doesn't supercede federal authority, except where the federal authority chooses to ignore it. (Weed is still illegal with the federal government in every state). He can make it all constitutional carry, and then the states can restrict further based on their own laws, (Illinois and their foid cards, states with magazine bans, etc.).


I want to point out that the 10th ammendment is supposed to supercede federal authority. The constitution was written that way, but there is this supremacy clause thing, then the interstate commerce thing, and then precedent, because we've had so many weak leaders over the years, and on and on..

 

[lariat]

Not how that works. The 10th ammendment doesn't supercede federal authority, except where the federal authority chooses to ignore it. (Weed is still illegal with the federal government in every state). He can make it all constitutional carry, and then the states can restrict further based on their own laws, (Illinois and their foid cards, states with magazine bans, etc.).


I want to point out that the 10th ammendment is supposed to supercede federal authority. The constitution was written that way, but there is this supremacy clause thing, then the interstate commerce thing, and then precedent, because we've had so many weak leaders over the years, and on and on..

You are making my point. Yes, the 10th is supposed the supersede federal authority but that isn't how it works today. That's the real underlying issue. And yes, due to this fact it WILL be used as precedent. It is also super hypocritical to push abortion to the states while then pulling a state issue into a federal jurisdiction. This is not so much a 2A issue (which is federal as it is a constitutional matter) as it is what each state defines as legal carry, which IS their right.

The other point you bring up is also correct: if the states can restrict federally mandated reciprocity based on their own laws then there is no real reciprocity. It simply won't happen as advertised.

 

[Fx51LP308]

Regardless of what happens, it won't be a total 50 state deal. The "anti-gun" states (CA, NJ, NY, CT, MA, HI, etc.) will still disallow it.

 

[zeroz]

This isn't the way to do it. I think this is a "make the gun owners happy even though its bullshit move". States can and will still restrict. Id be much happier with the HPA, which seems realistic though Id love to shoot for the stars with an NFA repeal or even reduction with cans, sbr, sbs pulled off the list. I definitely dont see a full repeal putting MG in our hands with just a 4473 happening. I just dont think him or congress are gun people who want the peasants having it that easy.

 

[hafejd30]

There’s a decent amount of states, at least by me, that recognize our MI cpl. Even Illinois allows you to carry loaded in your vehicle which is surprising

The places where you’d want to carry the most and don’t let you are likely just places one should avoid being

We’ve seen plenty of self defense cases in the last few years in dem controlled areas where they always seem to go after the good guy with the gun. Like NY or Chicago or Portland for example

Yeah it may get thrown out in the end but it’s years of torture and tons of $$ to fight it

 

[Camelfilter]

This is fraught with issues. This would not survive a Supreme Court hearing, primarily due to the 10th Amendment. But there is something else: if reciprocity can be forced upon the states in violation of the 10th that would open up the whole issue of federal oversight of abortion instead of the states. There would be other things that it could be used as precedent for. I don't see this as a good idea at all due to the potential knock-on effects.

Good legal team at Supreme Court could submit that the 2A overrides all State Laws, including 10A & finalize any anti-2A movements going forwards. Just like States can't override other constitutional rights.

Don't like the Constitution (talking about anti-2A State lawmakers & their whackanoodle proposers), then hold a constitutional convention...

 

[doubloon]

The other point you bring up is also correct: if the states can restrict federally mandated reciprocity based on their own laws then there is no real reciprocity. It simply won't happen as advertised.

This.

Read the actual bill(s). It doesn't directly support or enforce 2A. It defers regulatory authority of the right to carry in any and every state to the Fed.

It doesn't do anything to extend or protect individual rights to self defense beyond anything each state has already defined.

It only provides the right to defend yourself in court for hiding a handgun on your person.