PRS 6.5cm Brake?

[hairy_pineapple588]

Completed my first match this past Sunday and I shot it suppressed as I don’t have a brake. I was waiting for this match to see what I should buy. Obviously everyone was running a brake. So if you shoot prs with 6.5cm. What brake are you using? Just wanting to see what others are running.

 

[oldrifleman]

mine is the ATS, though I give up a bit of recoil reduction for not giving those around me a concussion. Next to it is still loud but just a warm breeze. Previous brake was an APA gen3 little Bastard with all ports open. Bit better but my son’s head just hurt as did mine. For me it was a great trade off.

 

[hairy_pineapple588]

mine is the ATS, though I give up a bit of recoil reduction for not giving those around me a concussion. Next to it is still loud but just a warm breeze. Previous brake was an APA gen3 little Bastard with all ports open. Bit better but my son’s head just hurt as did mine. For me it was a great trade off.

Do you have the self timing version or tuber version?

 

[oldrifleman]

Self timing, no tuner.

 

[RRCo]

I’m be run both the Area 419 Hellfire Match and a Next Gen EC Tuner brake (currently). I think both a great at recoil reduction without beating the crap of the “Nut behind the bolt”. I would honestly recommend either of them, but on this new barrel the EC Tuner was just producing slightly better groups when I tested both.

 

[stello1001]

Wait, so you want to shoot with a brake because everybody else had one even though you already have a suppressor? I shoot local prs matches with a 6.5 too and run a suppressor.

How heavy is your rifle?

 

[hairy_pineapple588]

Wait, so you want to shoot with a brake because everybody else had one even though you already have a suppressor? I shoot local prs matches with a 6.5 too and run a suppressor.

How heavy is your rifle?

21lbs currently. just exploring options. I was the only person there shooting suppressed so made me start to think about brake.

 

[spife7980]

My view on the subject is that if I wanted to win I would shoot a brake.

I want to enjoy my shooting so I shoot a can, I know it’s a handicap but so is my lack of being good… at least I don’t get a headache right away.

Get an ace brake, less blast but still adequate recoil control

 

[stello1001]

21lbs currently. just exploring options. I was the only person there shooting suppressed so made me start to think about brake.

Oh wow, your rifle is pretty heavy. I can't imagine mine being over 16. I should be somewhere around 14-15. You should be able to spot misses with your rifle.

Yes, a brake will keep you on target a lot more than a suppressor so if that is your ultimate goal, take a look at some of the options these guys are recommending. I haven't shot a brake in a while, and back then, it was area 419 and APA Lil bastards. Although that has probably changed and there are surely better brakes today.

However, I would just say to keep using the suppressor and try getting better and better with it. Don't let the fact that you're the only one discourage your. Heck, try and get the other guys to change. Now that the wait times are non-existent, it would be good to let them shoot a round or two with your rifle.

In the squad I shoot in, it's only one other shooter and myself that shoot suppressed. In the entire event, it's usually maybe 25% of shooters with a suppressor.

Good luck, and most importantly, have fun at it.

 

[kthomas]

I don't shoot much PRS anymore, when I do, its 100% suppressed.

But before I owned suppressors, I used an Insite Arms Heathen brake. I've used multiple self-timing brakes, the Insite is my personal favorite. But they all more or less do the same thing. The differences between the popular brakes are pretty small, IMO, they are all pretty effective at reducing recoil.

However, I'm never going to go back to a brake. I personally don't think a suppressor is that big of a handicap, especially if you have good fundamentals. Some suppressors do have better recoil impulses than others (Abel Co Biscuit), and there's also the new TBAC 'RR' line of suppressors if you want to combine the benefits of a suppressor and brake.

 

[bohem]

I won't try to say I'm not biased for the PVA brakes... I think we make excellent products and the key I would point out here is that we've always championed the idea that a brake must not put concussion back on the shooter's body because of the detrimental reasons to health and shooting ability.

The guy commenting that his old brake hurt his and his son's head... that's a primary design parameter in the Jetblast and Shockwave brakes when I started them 10 years ago. I didn't want the concussion on me, it gave me headaches over a day of shooting and I know I'm far from the only person to experience it.

ATS makes a brake advertised to be concussion free, so does Insite with the Heathen.

I know where ours stand on overall recoil reduction and it's at the top of the heap.

(They're also the most affordable of the industry's top shelf offerings)

Jet Blast Muzzle Brake

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patriotvalleyarms.com

 

[Vivacious Stallion]

I've been using an APA Little Bastard Gen 3 for this season and don't plan on changing it. It definitely performs better than my 419 brakes. It also accumulates carbon much slower. I double up on ear pro, so I don't worry as much about the blast.

You can always shoot another match before deciding and ask to try a couple rounds out of someone's rifle. As long as you have your rifle balanced well and have a good bag, the can is is probably not holding you back at this stage.

My rifle is set at 24 lbs running 140s.

 

[Hickswr]

ACE if you must brake it.

 

[KnowNothing256]

Always makes me smile how the Hide responses would make you think half of all PRS shooters are running suppressed, just based on how many Hiders doth protest to a brake.

I've run a few different brakes, and don't have strong feelings about them by and large; I like the Heathen (particularly the largest versions), but they're not as toolless as advertised, I use a strap wrench to make sure that sucker don't move. At that point I'd rather just carry a crescent, but it is what it is. I've had the APA FB G3, not sure how much muzzle rise control the little screw ports provide but the recoil performance is definitely there.

+1 to double ear pro; I eventually acknowledged to myself that I needed to double up when I noticed that my ears would consistently be ringing after the first few rounds with a single layer. I haven't gone back to a "concussive" brake since starting to double up, but I don't expect it'd be an issue. I just made the silly-seeming jump and purchased a Chad brake from Without Warning, haven't gotten it yet but he sure thinks it's the greatest brake ever to grace a firing line, and if he's half right I think it's worth the cost (about what you'd spend buying factory ammo for a single 2-day match haha).

My personal recommendation to you would be to look at the different reviews where someone did semi-quantitative comparisons to all the brakes on recoil control, and pick one of the higher performers. Then double up on pro, with active muffs and passive plugs. Agreed with @spife7980 that people who are chasing placement run brakes for a reason; suppressors make it more pleasant to shoot, but more difficult to spot impacts at closer ranges. And you'll find far fewer cans on the line at a PRS match than brakes

 

[Rob01]

The PVA Jet4 is an excellent brake which doesn't beat up the shooter. I have them on most of my PRS rifles/barrels.

 

[Dead Eye Dick]

I was using a stock, old style 4 port MPA brake and it surely did the job. It also cleaned off anything on the bench and pretty much everything on any surrounding benches. But it kept the 6.5 on target. Still using it when I converted it to 6GT but will soon replace it with a 419.

True story. Was shooting off a large table inside a shooting stand. Not paying attention, there was some .308 cases lying on the table, not particularly close to the rifle. The shooting stand had a mesh wire wall. Fired the 6.5, the blast picked up a 308 case, blasted it against the wall where it ricocheted back and smacked me in the face, hard.

The 419 brake can kick up a mess but not as bad as the MPA.

 

[stevieb92]

There are several good options. PVA Jet4, Area419 Hellfire Match, ATS, but I've chosen the APA Fat Bastard. For the price it's tough to beat it. Plus they give a discount when you use your PRS membership #.

 

[Niles Coyote]

I'm currently using a Area419 Maverick in match configuration, that way you get a little blast abetment and recoil braking action. Prior to the maverick I have used both the Sidewinder and HellFire brakes from Area419. I like how easy they are to remove for barrel cleaning, ease of indexing and never coming lose.

 

[Grantw1221]

ACE brake, I like being able to adjust the recoil pattern to what I’m seeing through the optic. Much less movement than the area419 as well.

 

[oldrifleman]

I have a rifle with an ACE and it is also a great, low concussive break with really good performance. Not switching it to the ATS as to me they are really close in break performance so not worth the cost to switch.

 

[R_A_W]

Get a DN5 and shake the earth