PRS Talk PRS Production Rules question

[zabada]

Hello everyone!

I currently have a complete barreled action (with unmodified trigger) from Howa. The action is out of the box, with no custom work.

It’s sitting in an XLR element chassis and has a bushnell 4-18 sitting on it.

As per production rules, my scope sits well under the $2,000 limit, and my rifle does too.

If I’m reading correctly though I must have purchased a complete rifle, therefore putting me in open class.

Howa does sell a KRG Bravo edition, which is my barreled action with trigger dropped into a KRG Bravo. If I were to buy a KRG Bravo and put my existing barreled action into it, thus making it an exact copy of the rifle they sell for under $2,000, would I be able to compete in production?

Or does the gun have to be purchased all at once?

I don’t want to bend or break any rules here, but I would in essence end up with the exact rifle that Howa (Legacy Sports) sells. And even purchasing the chassis after market keeps me well under the $2,000 limit.

Does this sound like it would fly? Am I interpreting the rules properly?

Thanks!

Benjamin

 

[davsco]

if it's the exact same thing they sell as a complete rifle, but you bought it in pieces, from my reading, that is not disallowed.

 

[zabada]

Thanks!

 

[teerex]

This is the official rule, so I would say no. Just because it is similar or even the same does not make it a production rifle.

2.3.2 Rifle: For the purpose of the Production Division, a rifle is defined as the original manufacturers configuration of a complete firearm which will be comprised of at least but not limited to the following: stock with bottom metal or chassis, a complete action, a barrel and a trigger mechanism.

 

[zabada]

This is the official rule, so I would say no. Just because it is similar or even the same does not make it a production rifle.

2.3.2 Rifle: For the purpose of the Production Division, a rifle is defined as the original manufacturers configuration of a complete firearm which will be comprised of at least but not limited to the following: stock with bottom metal or chassis, a complete action, a barrel and a trigger mechanism.

This is the part tripping me up.

It says “the original manufacturers configuration of a complete firearm”.

I can see that interpreted as “a firearm that matches a manufacturers configuration of a complete rifle.”

It doesn’t say it needs to be purchased complete.

 

[teerex]

That's pretty clear to me, it doesn't say clone something that exist. If you want more clarity than that Email the PRS

 

[davsco]

i don't think anyone at the match or prs hq is going to make you (everyone at a match shooting production division) show receipts (or a singular receipt in this case). if the rifle is identical to an offering they have or had, and you bought it in pieces, it matches one of the original manufacturer's configurations.

 

[onebadmofo]

This is the part tripping me up.

It says “the original manufacturers configuration of a complete firearm”.

I can see that interpreted as “a firearm that matches a manufacturers configuration of a complete rifle.”

It doesn’t say it needs to be purchased complete.

I think the rules are pretty clear............ "the original manufacturers" • If your barrel needs to be replaced, it must be sent back to the original manufacture for a replacement barrel of equal value. Aftermarket pre-fit barrels, or a new barrel from a custom shop are not allowable replacements.

 

[teerex]

I still say the rules are clear. Production division isn't that big of a deal. If your rifle feeds and ejects it isn't the rifle that is going to hold you back. As far as regional matches go many regions aren't messing with the separate divisions. I'd just shoot and not worry production as a class.

 

[zabada]

Got the response from the PRS director today. Looks like I’m good to go! Thanks for the insight guys.

I hope this can help out others that may be in a similar situation.

“Ben,

If you did what you described, that set up would qualify for production. It must be a an exact match though. Good luck this year and we will see ya on the line.

Shannon Kay”

 

[davsco]

excellent, with a clear conscience, you can now go out and kick some production azz!

 

[regnar375]

I guess it was not so clear to some.

Good job following thru with what you though was the right call.

 

[teerex]

I guess I stand corrected.