PRS > QP questions

[JC0352]

Have any of you with a background in PRS type shooting attended a Quantified Performance match and competed in the general purpose division?

I’m wondering if I’m going to be hating life, trying to compete with a 5.56 with a Gen 2 PST 1-6x after shooting with a 6.5cm and ffp scopes with tree reticles. Maybe it would suck but I think it would be a good shakedown of my AR as I have it equipped.

 

[clefairy]

This guy does tons of content on shooting. Good place to start.

 

[JC0352]

Yea, I think I’m going to put some arca on there for my bipod and just go see what happens. lol

 

[Ruff 364]

Have any of you with a background in PRS type shooting attended a Quantified Performance match and competed in the general purpose division?

I’m wondering if I’m going to be hating life, trying to compete with a 5.56 with a Gen 2 PST 1-6x after shooting with a 6.5cm and ffp scopes with tree reticles. Maybe it would suck but I think it would be a good shakedown of my AR as I have it equipped.

I am a MD for QP in the SW. These matches are a ton of fun! GP is the largest division.

Have solid dope and wind on your gun before you compete. The positional stuff kills shooters that are not used to it. I watch shooters mag dump a 105 yard target off-hand because they have not done it before....Yes, standing unsupported is a skill and a QP performance test.

.223's are competitive with the right shooter. My last three matches I'll bet 70% were 223 guns, the rest 6 ARC and a few 6.5's CM/Grens.

 

[JC0352]

I am a MD for QP in the SW. These matches are a ton of fun! GP is the largest division.

Have solid dope and wind on your gun before you compete. The positional stuff kills shooters that are not used to it. I watch shooters mag dump a 105 yard target off-hand because they have not done it before....Yes, standing unsupported is a skill and a QP performance test.

.223's are competitive with the right shooter. My last three matches I'll bet 70% were 223 guns, the rest 6 ARC and a few 6.5's CM/Grens.

Thank you! I guess they’re running two matches in WV this year and I want to try it out. Been doing PRS and rimfire for a while so I’m familiar with positional but I’m not good. I was torn on whether to put a bigger scope on the gun and do practical precision, but I think I’m going to run this 1-6 and see how it goes. Definitely need to order some match ammo and DOPE this rifle

 

[Ruff 364]

Thank you! I guess they’re running two matches in WV this year and I want to try it out. Been doing PRS and rimfire for a while so I’m familiar with positional but I’m not good. I was torn on whether to put a bigger scope on the gun and do practical precision, but I think I’m going to run this 1-6 and see how it goes. Definitely need to order some match ammo and DOPE this rifle

A 1x6 can be competitive unless your MD likes really small targets =]

 

[JC0352]

A 1x6 can be competitive unless your MD likes really small targets =]

 

[JC0352]

@Jack_L, I actually replayed Frank’s podcast with you from a couple years ago talking about QP.

 

[Eric32]

Where can I find the rules and the divisions?

Never mind I googled it, can’t wait to find a match to shoot it

 

[021411]

Shot a QP match with a suppressed Mock12 with a Trijicon 2-10 which put me in Practical Precision. The difference is just “sending it” until you hear impact vs PRS. Didn’t feel handicapped shooting 223. Their slogan is “Shoot fast, shoot far.”

 

[R_A_W]

This actually looks like a ton of fun… maybe I’m in the dark, but I’ve never heard of this before (which is hilarious because I recently squaded w/ Leuba & he didn’t mention it once in 2 days)

 

[021411]

This actually looks like a ton of fun… maybe I’m in the dark, but I’ve never heard of this before (which is hilarious because I recently squaded w/ Leuba & he didn’t mention it once)

Yeah it’s basically a fast paced gas gun match with some equipment restrictions but unlimited rounds per stage. I think it was time + hits.

 

[Eric32]

What’s the scope magnification limitations?

 

[JC0352]

What’s the scope magnification limitations?

 

[Eric32]

So no scope limitations on the other divisions?

 

[021411]

So no scope limitations on the other divisions?

None. Only on GP.

 

[R_A_W]

All rules here

https://quantifiedperformance.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/Shoot-Far-Shoot-Fast-RULES-V3.2.pdf

 

[Eric32]

Yea I found those rules but they didn’t address the scope limitations in the other divisions. So I figured ask.

I got a sweet little 18” SPR w/ 18x razor G2 that needs to get used.

 

[021411]

Yea I found those rules but they didn’t address the scope limitations in the other divisions. So I figured ask.

I got a sweet little 18” SPR w/ 18x razor G2 that needs to get used.

You’ll be in Practical Precision based on barrel length alone. You’re capped at using 20rd mags so I had 3 mags loaded each stage. Never needed the third mag though.

 

[Eric32]

Thanks

 

[Ruff 364]

Every match everyone is always "what is the round count?" My answer is always "There are XX targets, you figure out the round count..."

 

[JC0352]

So I should bring a case of ammo?

 

[Eric32]

Every match everyone is always "what is the round count?" My answer is always "There are XX targets, you figure out the round count..."

To reply with "Mag change"

 

[Jack_L]

This actually looks like a ton of fun… maybe I’m in the dark, but I’ve never heard of this before (which is hilarious because I recently squaded w/ Leuba & he didn’t mention it once in 2 days)

I don't want to be perceived as one of those people that are poaching folks from other matches, and I don't want to distract people from focusing on their game. Always happy to talk about it though, lol.

 

[Eric32]

Dude keep talking about it!

 

[R_A_W]

I’ll second that

I understand & appreciate your concern… but also a lot of us would love to hear about another form of LR match that we can shoot

 

[Jack_L]

Here's some shooter's view from the always impressive Scott Peterson from the last match in Arena.
MD/Stage Design: Travis Dyess

 

[mikeshaw2]

I've been one of those guys mag dumping on the standing offhand stage. No. I don't practice it. The Marines I was shooting with on MCB Quantico did MUCH better, but then... they practice that stuff.

The biggest problem I've had (at least on Quantico) is seeing my misses. That little bullet, traveling that fast, against a background of trees? Where'd the round go?!

M

 

[021411]

So I should bring a case of ammo?

I think I took 500rds of 77gr match ammo with me. It was plenty but I did burn through quite a bit. Furthest shot we took at that particular match was about 1k. I probably sent 10 in a row at it until impact was called. Lol fuck it.

 

[Fig]

Always interested in hearing about a match/discipline where I don't have to go out and build a new $7000 gun I don't currently have.

 

[DeathBeforeDismount]

Do I have to run around and get sweaty or can fat guys do well at these too? Looks like fun, being able to run factory ammo and not worry about picking up brass would be nice. Can I run a D60 in a SR15 Mod 0?

@Magnitude

 

[Jack_L]

Do I have to run around and get sweaty or can fat guys do well at these too? Looks like fun, being able to run factory ammo and not worry about picking up brass would be nice. Can I run a D60 in a SR15 Mod 0?

@Magnitude

We made these matches to be an evaluation of midrange speed rifle shooting skills, not a fitness test. Physical fitness requirement is about a 2 of 10. If you can shoot a PRS match, you'll be fine.

D60 is legal in General Purpose and Open.

 

[DeathBeforeDismount]

We made these matches to be an evaluation of midrange speed rifle shooting skills, not a fitness test. Physical fitness requirement is about a 2 of 10. If you can shoot a PRS match, you'll be fine.

D60 is legal in General Purpose and Open.

Thanks Jack.

I know they have these at Quanitico and Drew at WAR has something similar with the IWI gas gun series at the Geissele range up in PA. Is there a standard target package and round estimate? Like 100 targets with 3x ammo as a guide on how much to bring? Or just bring a whole case and figure it out?

I'm going to be driving down to FL next month and plan to check out the new Lawmans showroom. Last time I was down there it was under construction, but i got some sweet deals on lowers/uppers. Hopefully there are some goodies to pick up.

 

[Jack_L]

Thanks Jack.

I know they have these at Quanitico and Drew at WAR has something similar with the IWI gas gun series at the Geissele range up in PA. Is there a standard target package and round estimate? Like 100 targets with 3x ammo as a guide on how much to bring? Or just bring a whole case and figure it out?

I'm going to be driving down to FL next month and plan to check out the new Lawmans showroom. Last time I was down there it was under construction, but i got some sweet deals on lowers/uppers. Hopefully there are some goodies to pick up.

I don't really know anything about IWI or WAR matches, but for the QP series we generally do 8-10 stages, with most stages requiring 9-15 hits. Anticipate at least one stage that will require 21 hits. Most stages are unlimited (you can shoot as many rounds as you want), though some stages will be limited in either attempts per target or overall rounds fired, and occasionally a 100% accountability stage (hit or miss, move on). I'll usually bring 200 rounds per day of shooting, with extras for zero and data confirmation.

Lawmens is in full swing right now, plenty of guns (not KAC, lol), optics, and ammo.