Quality Junk Rifle... Kinda

[JuniperEyes]

Question for the Hide? I am feeling the need for a Semi-Auto in .308

I have the .556 and precision rifle and pistol stuff covered.

Do not need precision accuracy but good god I cant abide a shit shooter

Ammo will be primarily FGMM 168

Realistic range is 400 and in

Set and forget optic with at least 5mil ...no interest in dialing or repeatability

10x optic is plenty... could just as easily use 6 or 4


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[b6graham]

so...what's the question?

 

[Rob01]

https://palmettostatearmory.com/ar-10/ar-10-rifles.html?caliber_multi=.308+Win

 

[JuniperEyes]

so...what's the question?

Question is... What would you get?

 

[jb0311]

Get a PSA, see how it shoots, if it leaves something to be desired, get a criterion barrel. That’s about about as budget/quality as it gets.

 

[hlee]

Federal gold medal match around here is running close to $2/per round. In a cartridge that could go many thousands of rounds while maintaining match accuracy, the rifle is the least expensive component of the equation.

 

[JuniperEyes]

https://palmettostatearmory.com/ar-10/ar-10-rifles.html?caliber_multi=.308+Win

Palmetto has some just fine platforms thats for sure. How would you set it up?

 

[jb0311]

Federal gold medal match around here is running close to $2/per round. In a cartridge that could go many thousands of rounds while maintaining match accuracy, the rifle is the least expensive component of the equation.

I get that I pay for their “ammo plus” but still…$2/rd is way too high.

 

[JuniperEyes]

Federal gold medal match around here is running close to $2/per round. In a cartridge that could go many thousands of rounds while maintaining match accuracy, the rifle is the least expensive component of the equation.

Not looking many thousands of rounds at all. I am familiar with ballistics of 168. Just a semi auto platform with an optic capable of holding zero and having a reticle with hold overs for 400 and in

 

[Rob01]

Palmetto has some just fine platforms thats for sure. How would you set it up?

Your rifle to set up. For only 400 yards you could use a 16” barrel if you wanted compactness or a 20” if you ever wanted to push past 400 and length didn’t matter.

 

[Greg Langelius *]

I'll second the PSA PA-10. My Buddy got the 18", I got the 20", and I think I came out ahead. The two stage (Schmidt) trigger makes shooting it a lot more pleasant.

PA-10 20"

Greg

 

[JuniperEyes]

Of coarse some 147 use is on the menu as well. Vheck my join date Im not a new guy. Just wondering if you were to get a semi platform with optic for 400 and in what would you get

 

[hlee]

I’d probably be looking at a 16” SFAR if Ruger offered in in a rifle length gas system

 

[JuniperEyes]

I'll second the PSA PA-10. My Buddy got the 18", I got the 20", and I think I came out ahead.

PA-10 20"

Greg

Hi Greg! Thanks for the reply. Hope you are doing well. (for those who do not know...Gregg has been here more than a while)

 

[Rob01]

I’d get an 18-20” and throw a scope of your choosing on it. Personally I would figure out what you plan to do with it and then pick the optic. A low power scope is fine for silhouette sized targets to 400 but if shooting smaller targets then get more power.

 

[hafejd30]

I'll second the PSA PA-10. My Buddy got the 18", I got the 20", and I think I came out ahead. The two stage (Schmidt) trigger makes shooting it a lot more pleasant.

PA-10 20"

Greg

I know a few guys with the same. Work well for the money. Two stage trigger isn’t bad either

 

[JuniperEyes]

I’d probably be looking at a 26” SFAR if Ruger offered in in a rifle length gas system

26 sounds awesome with a 155... I could spend into oblivion making that work! Seriously though, an 18 or 20 shit rifle. Out to 400 or so. Give it a 100yd zero and use holdovers.

 

[JuniperEyes]

I’d get an 18-20” and throw a scope of your choosing on it. Personally I would figure out what you plan to do with it and then pick the optic. A low power scope is fine for silhouette sized targets to 400 but if shooting smaller targets then get more power.

Long time Rob! Hope you are well. I have all the precision stuff. (well kinda 20yr old anyway)! Just a simple setup... auto, optic, even could do with an Aimpoint with gradations. Its not like 400 is hard.

 

[hlee]

26 sounds awesome with a 155... I could spend into oblivion making that work! Seriously though, an 18 or 20 shit rifle. Out to 400 or so. Give it a 100yd zero and use holdovers.

Well, let’s go correct that down to 16” with rifle gas…

 

[JuniperEyes]

I know a few guys with the same. Work well for the money. Two stage trigger isn’t bad either

Im sure a two stage Geisselle will end up in this at some point.

 

[JuniperEyes]

Well, let’s go correct that down to 16” with rifle gas…

Lets go 18 or 20 and call it good! Im not looking to change the dynamics of a 168SMK. Looking for boring 2650fps repeater with 400yd capable optic. Shit... its hard to find more than 400 around here. Just have some spare cash and looking a new toy, (This aint for Professional Use)

 

[roosterpig]

Any interest in building one? Love playing legos…

 

[hlee]

Lets go 18 or 20 and call it good! Im not looking to change the dynamics of a 168SMK. Looking for boring 2650fps repeater with 400yd capable optic. Shit... its hard to find more than 400 around here. Just have some spare cash and looking a new toy, (This aint for Professional Use)

Then take a look at the SFAR. It also comes in a 20” rifle gas.

 

[JuniperEyes]

Any interest in building one? Love playing legos…

Building is certainly within the question. Rather just buy built. (Shit Rifle) I really do not have large frame tools nor am I interested in buying any. Building is fun but I dont shoot anymore. Just want something to zero and put away.

 

[roosterpig]

Nothin’ wrong with that!

 

[JuniperEyes]

Then take a look at the SFAR. It also comes in a 20” rifle gas.

Any experience with one? What optic would you put on it? I would be an ACOG slut with that rifle

 

[hlee]

Any experience with one? What optic would you put on it? I would be an ACOG slut with that rifle

No. But, putting a low eye relief optic on a light weight rifle in 308 win doesn’t sound like any kind of fun. I’d probably be looking at 2-3 on the low end and up to 15-18 on the high end.

 

[Rob01]

Yeah if that’s what you want then get something like a Burris RT6 1-6 and toss it on top of an 18” PSA and go have some fun.

 

[roosterpig]

If you’re interested, I’m about to post a WTS ad for a PST 1-6.

 

[JuniperEyes]

No. But, putting a low eye relief optic on a light weight rifle in 308 win doesn’t sound like any kind of fun. I’d probably be looking at 2-3 on the low end and up to 15-18 on the high end.

I will put an A2 stock on it for sure. No issues with eye relief. Ive been out of it for while and just wanting input on a .308 repeater

 

[JuniperEyes]

Yeah if that’s what you want then get something like a Burris RT6 1-6 and toss it on top of an 18” PSA and go have some fun.

Thanks Rob... exactly what I am looking for. Some things are better than others and I have not kept up in a while.

 

[Precision Underground]

Im sure a two stage Geisselle will end up in this at some point.

Way overpriced and unnecessary IMO. The RRA 2 stage is fine and way cheaper. I’m not a trigger snob though so others may say different. The CMC 2 stage is really nice and used to could be had for like $130 on sale. That’s what’s in most of our rifles.

 

[roosterpig]

Way overpriced and unnecessary IMO. The RRA 2 stage is fine and way cheaper. I’m not a trigger snob though so others may say different. The CMC 2 stage is really nice and used to could be had for like $130 on sale. That’s what’s in most of our rifles.

Don’t forget about the MBT-2s

A lot of trigger for $90

 

[JuniperEyes]

Way overpriced and unnecessary IMO. The RRA 2 stage is fine and way cheaper. I’m not a trigger snob though so others may say different. The CMC 2 stage is really nice and used to could be had for like $130 on sale. That’s what’s in most of our rifles.

I have a few RRA takeouts from ARs

 

[dk17hmr]

I bought a PSA 308, swapped the barrel to a Wilson combat 338 federal and put a larue MBT2 in it. It's honestly a pretty decent rifle for what I have into it.

Of course PSA has sales all the time, MBT2s are like $90 and if you want to upgrade the barrel Wilson Combat clearance sales are pretty good value.

 

[Precision Underground]

I have a few RRA takeouts from ARs

We’ve got a lot of triggers and one of our small frame ARs with an RRA 2 stage/light spring is one of my favorite. We’ve got nicer more expensive triggers and I don’t really feel like they do anything more.

 

[JuniperEyes]

We’ve got a lot of triggers and one of our small frame ARs with an RRA 2 stage/light spring is one of my favorite. We’ve got nicer more expensive triggers and I don’t really feel like they do anything more.

Fuck off dude... Im not buying your trigger

 

[JuniperEyes]

I bought a PSA 308, swapped the barrel to a Wilson combat 338 federal and put a larue MBT2 in it. It's honestly a pretty decent rifle for what I have into it.

Of course PSA has sales all the time, MBT2s are like $90 and if you want to upgrade the barrel Wilson Combat clearance sales are pretty good value.

I bought a Remington 7mmRM once and shot the barrel out. It was a Sendero. Bought an A5 and a Brux bbl and all that. Lots of Retumbo and Bergers. Whats your point?

 

[bigjake83]

Fuck off dude... Im not buying your trigger

He wasn't trying to sell you a trigger, the people above are just trying to get you going in the right direction. You're the one on here asking for help remeber!! Maybe you should be the one to fuck off and figure your own shit out... that's the point!

 

[dk17hmr]

I bought a Remington 7mmRM once and shot the barrel out. It was a Sendero. Bought an A5 and a Brux bbl and all that. Lots of Retumbo and Bergers. Whats your point?

Point being PSA is decent for the money with room for improvement if wanted. The 308 barrel before I replaced it was about 2-2.5 moa with fmj ammo and around moa with better ammo.

 

[Badmonkey]

If you get a PSA plan on getting an adjustable gas block. I had one and it was so over gassed it would leave my shoulder black and blue, and absolutely wrecked the brass. The AGB reduced the felt recoil by half, stopped the bruises, and left me with reloadable brass.
It had it shooting Moa with 168 smks, but it was a two Moa rifle with factory ammo.

 

[hafejd30]

If you get a PSA plan on getting an adjustable gas block. I had one and it was so over gassed it would leave my shoulder black and blue, and absolutely wrecked the brass. The AGB reduced the felt recoil by half, stopped the bruises, and left me with reloadable brass.
It had it shooting Moa with 168 smks, but it was a two Moa rifle with factory ammo.

My buddy has a 18” factory psa AR10. Came from factory with AGB. Think it’s a 4 position or something Ike that

 

[JuniperEyes]

He wasn't trying to sell you a trigger, the people above are just try to get you going in the right direction. You're the one on here asking for help remeber!! Maybe you should be the one to fuck off and figure your own shit out... that's the point!

I dont need pointing... but I am still not buying his trigger, What part about shit fifle are you not understanding?

 

[JuniperEyes]

If you get a PSA plan on getting an adjustable gas block. I had one and it was so over gassed it would leave my shoulder black and blue, and absolutely wrecked the brass. The AGB reduced the felt recoil by half, stopped the bruises, and left me with reloadable brass.
It had it shooting Moa with 168 smks, but it was a two Moa rifle with factory ammo.

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My buddy has a 18” factory psa AR10. Came from factory with AGB. Think it’s a 4 position or something Ike that

A gasser .308 left your shoulder black and blue???? Poor thing

 

[JuniperEyes]

If you get a PSA plan on getting an adjustable gas block. I had one and it was so over gassed it would leave my shoulder black and blue, and absolutely wrecked the brass. The AGB reduced the felt recoil by half, stopped the bruises, and left me with reloadable brass.
It had it shooting Moa with 168 smks, but it was a two Moa rifle with factory ammo.

No. But, putting a low eye relief optic on a light weight rifle in 308 win doesn’t sound like any kind of fun. I’d probably be looking at 2-3 on the low end and up to 15-18 on the high end.

SFAR sounds good. SWFA 1-6

 

[TonyTheTiger]

@Precision Underground why you always shilling triggers outside the PX man? Have some class...

 

[RUTGERS95]

can't believe anyone is recommending psa here. I mean What the ever loving fuk!????!@!!

Either build or buy an Aero/Ruger SFAR/Sig 716i or go LMT but for the love of God, don't buy any garbage from psa

 

[Precision Underground]

Fuck off dude... Im not buying your trigger

Hahahahahaha. I should have known not to try to help someone that would make such an absurdly stupid Fudd post. You’re on here trying to flex over a trigger while pontificating about buying a PSA with a SWFA scope. I don’t sell triggers Simple Jack.

 

[db2000]

Way overpriced and unnecessary IMO. The RRA 2 stage is fine and way cheaper. I’m not a trigger snob though so others may say different. The CMC 2 stage is really nice and used to could be had for like $130 on sale. That’s what’s in most of our rifles.

SSA-E is 150 in the PX or PA when they sell it on sale. Not sure it makes a difference but it’s what I use and can vouch for.

 

[Precision Underground]

can't believe anyone is recommending psa here. I mean What the ever loving fuk!????!@!!

Either build or buy an Aero/Ruger SFAR/Sig 716i or go LMT but for the love of God, don't buy any garbage from psa

No no no. OP said he can’t build bc he doesn’t have “large frame tools” and isn’t going to buy any. I guess all he has is small frame tools…..small frame punches, small frame castle wrench, small frame hammer, small frame oil, etc…. You know, all of the usual small frame tools.

I’m not sure if there’s room on the servers but I’ll try to list all of the large frame specific tools he’d need to build a large frame rifle just in case he decides to go that route.

Annnnd that’s it. It’s one $40 tool.

He’s so clueless he doesn’t even realize that his posts are proof that he is clueless.