DetroitRearView nailed it but I was attempting to type and didn't notice his response.
They are top tier at this level you need a tripod any way to even hope to see any difference between. Even then you might spend 30 minutes trying to figure out what really you might be giving up compared to the other Swaros.
It is certainly not drastic like the Swaro spotters when you compare the ATA line to the ATX line.. In this case it takes about 2 minutes to decide if you want to pay almost 2x the price
Love my ATX and the couple of Binos I have.. when on a tripod best money I have spent.. I have bought a lot of almost as good stuff over the years, wish I hadn't.
PS to add: I just sold my EL Range that I bought used for a the same price I paid.. to fund a bow sight with ranging, Garmin A1i + more arrows + 6GT barrel from
@MarcS from Spartan Riles who has a sale on custom barrels
Swaros- are easy to sell without taking a complete bath.
I wanted to add something to the thread that I think is worth considering. If you are super excited about getting new binos, range finding or not. You really should analyze, what is best for you.. Whats best for the guys in the East might not be best for the person in the Rockies or the guys shooting the matches out here that tend to be longer in range. etc.
Ranging integration is great but just food for thought:
1. How many hours a year are you looking thru your glass
2.
How many minutes a year are you actually pressing the ranging button
3. How often are you Glassing (far) for animals
4. How often are you shooting matches
5. What % are you spotting targets and looking for wind and trace
6. If hunting how dense is the area
7. Are you primarily from the East* or out West -
8. How often can you use a tripod
9. How important is weight.
So with a list like this, would I choose 10x ranging integration over 12 or 15x SLCs? What if i was primarily glassing for animals out West, mainly shooting matches and wanted to see the wind and trace; especially if I was willing to carry my RRS?
If I am on a stock, hunting dense areas and need the FOV, or trying to be super light would I choose the 12s or 15s or the 8's?
MFGs are going to build the the ranging binos into the biggest bino market. That's certainly the 10x family. But you have to look at why. Is the 2,000 PRS shoots driving it?
No, The majority users in the US are White tail hunters, primarily found in the Eastern part of our country where glassing is typically just not as far. If most of the hunters where in areas like Wyoming and Colorado you'd bet they'd be selling 15x ranging binos, but the numbers do not support it.
The West has the lightest hunter densities – by far – by averaging only 1.2 hunters PSM and the Midwest averages the next lowest density at 6.1 hunters PSM. So of the 36 Million Tags, the majority in the East, what binos are you going to bring to the market. Obviously there are 12x+ Range finding binos, just not many options at all.
The best use and best binos for you, are based on the questions that only you can answer. For me it was Swaro 15x56 (completely replaced the spotter) for most match shooting as I can see wind, trace and impact locations guys on 10's can not. My 8's for bow and the ATX and 15s on open hunts. I decide to keep the ranging separate, as that part of the tech is changing about every 6 months. I sold off my Vectronixs stuff and replaced it with the tiny & feathery Leica 2800. The beam is small, much smaller than most binos and it allows me to use what ever glass I want for the task.. Hopefully just something to think about.
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