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That would be great at 13inches and under 30oz.I wouldn't mind a lightweight 2-20x50 hunting scope.
Like y'all have said. I love my Gen2 4.5-27 but it's way too heavy to use hunting. if they could do a lighter 30-34mm tube, 44+mm obj, and something in the 2/3 low range, 15-25 high range, they'd probably get a lot of my money.
I'd prefer something like an HST with better glass and reticle options. At just over 13 inches and about 21 ounces, it would be ideal with a low magnification of 2.The AMG covers a lot of that except low end.
I want tool-less zero knobs, and improved glass that handles mirage better. As much as I love my G2 Razor, their zero system leaves a lot to be desired (IMO), and I've struggled on some hot summer stages where the mirage was high and the targets were far or partially obscured.
The AMG covers a lot of that except low end.
[QUOTE="koshkin, post: 8209764, member: 7515"
As far Razor Gen 3 goes, I would not hold my breath. Vortex has a lot of things going on and if I were them, I would not be in a rush to reinvent the entire tactical Razor line until the 1-10x24 is in full production and stable. I would really like to see more from the AMG and HD LH product lines.
ILya
The AMG covers a lot of that except low end.
Well, the promo video they released was entirely LE/Mil targeted. While the 3 Gun and Tac Games Vortex guys have them, that's definitely not the bread and butter of this line.
Been asking Vortex for a 4-20x50 AMG for quite some time, but would accept a Gen III 4-20x50 that was around 30oz or less.
I want tool-less zero knobs, and improved glass that handles mirage better. As much as I love my G2 Razor, their zero system leaves a lot to be desired (IMO), and I've struggled on some hot summer stages where the mirage was high and the targets were far or partially obscured.
Not light enough or low enough.
A 3-12/15 around 20oz and I’m sold. Currently using the March 3-24x42 at 20 oz. I’m willing to give up some magnification for better FoV.
Had one, great scope. I could deal with the SFP for a hunting rifle. I could not deal with MOA.It would have worked for him. If you need a scope that light then you need a hunting style like the Razor HD LH/ 3-15x and 16.5 ounces. You start losing features on the scopes when you want super light.
There are a couple local shooters that use Tangent Thetas, and I can assure you they “see through” mirage better than a Razor.Better glass that handles mirage better? Have you tried the same environment on a different scope? I have tested the G2 razor and ATACR and S&B under similar conditions and found them all very similar. Perhaps you have too much magnification dialed in or have a lot of heat coming off your barrel or can.
I want tool-less zero knobs, and improved glass that handles mirage better. As much as I love my G2 Razor, their zero system leaves a lot to be desired (IMO), and I've struggled on some hot summer stages where the mirage was high and the targets were far or partially obscured.
Better glass that handles mirage better? Have you tried the same environment on a different scope? I have tested the G2 razor and ATACR and S&B under similar conditions and found them all very similar. Perhaps you have too much magnification dialed in or have a lot of heat coming off your barrel or can.
I had two AMG's, they both had phenomenal glass that impressed me enough to sell my Kahles and Schmidt & Bender at the time. Be careful when you make claims like this as it infers that none of their scopes have great glass, but "great" is a relative term. For the quality of glass you get with different lines of Vortex optics, they seem to punch above their weight class compared to other scopes within similar price class. Maybe the Razor Gen II 4.5-27 isn't as good as the S&B PMII 5-25 but neither does the Vortex cost as much.the mirage issues is what drove me away from vortex...everyone raves about vortex glass...it’s not that great.
I had two AMG's, they both had phenomenal glass that impressed me enough to sell my Kahles and Schmidt & Bender at the time. Be careful when you make claims like this as it infers that none of their scopes have great glass, but "great" is a relative term. For the quality of glass you get with different lines of Vortex optics, they seem to punch above their weight class compared to other scopes within similar price class. Maybe the Razor Gen II 4.5-27 isn't as good as the S&B PMII 5-25 but neither does the Vortex cost as much.
@koshkin ,
How long until a March review? Those look pretty awesome.
There are a couple local shooters that use Tangent Thetas, and I can assure you they “see through” mirage better than a Razor.
Oh okay, I didn't realize that, you must be right, all Vortex glass doesn't impress. ?ive owned just about every high end scope so I’ve looked through enough glass to make claims about scopes and I’ve looked through 3 AMGs and they are nice but they do not impress me.
How much better was the ZCO than the Kahles when it came to mirage? Because that was the first thing I noticed when I got my new 525i it doesn’t do that well with the mirage out here in the Australian summer.
A 4 or 5 zoom 28 .oz or less with 56mm obj. Take my money.
Oh okay, I didn't realize that, you must be right, all Vortex glass doesn't impress. ?
I understand that a TT is better, and also costs $2500+ more than a Gen2 Razor. I do prefer the short form factor of the Razor vs the uber long TT, and the weight doesn't bother me as it's sole use is on my match rifle where the extra 10oz gets lost in the fray.You mean 4 or 5x or zoom ratio as they make a 28.5 ounce 4 zoom right now with the AMG 6-24 but 50mm objective. The 50mm works fine on it though.
I doubt tooless zero will be showing up. Just is what it is. Don't know for sure but just a feeling. If it was a choice between tooless and clickless as it is now I would definitely like clickless. I like being able to get a perfect zero. Just my preference. Had tooless in Premiers years back and it was nice.
As to the glass debate, you like TT then go buy one at $4700. You want a scope that will do 95% of what it will do then get a Razor II for under $2000. Simple. People have to buy what works for them.
Honestly (for ME) the Vortex turret/zero system leaves a lot to be desired. It's just more work than it's worth to get that sub-0.1 mil "perfect" zero, especially if you ever swap barrels on an AI, DT, etc. Not only do you have to unscrew the cap (which always gets marred up), then three set screws, then have to adjust the clickless turret the correct direction. It seems easy/foolproof, but when you're rushing before a match, or trying to adjust zero without taking any more shots, I've seen (and done it myself) where you end up adjusting that last 0.2 mils the wrong direction and completely screwing yourself up.
I also got rid of my AMG after one match, as when I adjusted the zero and re-tightened the set screws, the zero would move (rotate) on its own, no matter how I tightened the set screws. My Razor has never done that over the course of 4 years.
Good to know. I bought the AMG used, and this happened to me on my first range session when I was trying to zero it, so maybe it wasn't me. Like I said, I've never had that issue with my Razor and I've cranked down those screws pretty hard.That's because you managed to gorrilla one of the set screws when you zero'ed it. It mars the hub, and the screw tries to slip back into the marred spot when you tighten it down. I did the same thing. Vortex sent me a couple of hubs (one to fix the scope, one to have as a spare, just in case). They also gave me the "tighten until the included tool just barely starts to bend or flex" suggestion.
I apologize for my snarky remark, just in a mood I guess and thought your original comment was a bit abrasiveI said it does not impress “ME” or “MY” eyes...I’m not knocking or saying vortex Does not make good scopes I’m telling the OP my opinion.
I would agree with you that there is a lot of glass that "I" do not like, to my eyes it just doesn't match up with other glass at a similar price point. As I mentioned above, Vortex tends to punch above it's weight for the price you can usually get the scopes for (not MSRP, but actual street price), this has often been the "value" behind Vortex; however, I will admit that many manufacturers have been uping their game of late. You mention grabbing a couple Leupold Mark 5's because you felt they were superior to Kahles, Vortex and Schmidt and Bender with mirage, I've heard really good things about those scopes (the 5-25's) but I think some would argue your conclusions.2 kahles(mine)a 5-25 mark5 a vortex 4.5x27 a PSTGEN2....I sold both kahles the next day and bought a 5-25 and a 7-35 mark5s...we did not have a S&B but I’ve looked through enough of them to know the mark5 is better in the mirage.
...the mirage issues is what drove me away from vortex...everyone raves about vortex glass...it’s not that great.
ZCO claimed they went with a 36mm tube because they wanted zero compromise and felt they had to use 36mm to keep optical distortion to a minimum when the scope was bottomed out at max elevation. I have not seen any conclusive evidence that the ZCO is any better than say a Schmidt & Bender 3-27x56 when both are set at 35 mils elevation, all things being equal. The new March 5-42x56 High Master has 40 mils of elevation and uses a 34mm tube, I'd be curious to see how the ZCO and March compare when both are set at 35 mils but might test this when I get the 5-42.3-30 daylight bright illumination.
Do you guys think, that if there is and will be bigger scopes in gen III line, are they 34 or 36mm tube.
Old gen II 1-6 is 30mm and the new low end scope is 34mm.
Are the bigger ones be also with bigger main tube?
ZCO has 36mm main tube, so could Vortex go in the gen III also for the 36mm tube, or stay in the 34mm.
I apologize for my snarky remark, just in a mood I guess and thought your original comment was a bit abrasive
I would agree with you that there is a lot of glass that "I" do not like, to my eyes it just doesn't match up with other glass at a similar price point. As I mentioned above, Vortex tends to punch above it's weight for the price you can usually get the scopes for (not MSRP, but actual street price), this has often been the "value" behind Vortex; however, I will admit that many manufacturers have been uping their game of late. You mention grabbing a couple Leupold Mark 5's because you felt they were superior to Kahles, Vortex and Schmidt and Bender with mirage, I've heard really good things about those scopes (the 5-25's) but I think some would argue your conclusions.
With regard to mirage, you bring up an interesting point, mirage is an atmospheric condition and I've often thought what gives one scope an ability to "penetrate" mirage better than another and my guess is that it is a combination of the scopes ability to resolve detail, micro contrast and wide DOF. Mirage is not something you can eliminate through the design of the scope like CA and other optical aberrations, because it is an atmospheric condition it will exist regardless of the scope you have, I do not believe there is any multi-coating or optical trickery that cuts through mirage better, but it's more a matter of what our eye perceives and again, scopes that tend to offer better resolution, micro contrast and wide DOF seem to do better in this regard. So is it really that one scope allows you to "see through" mirage better than another, or more a matter of the detail of the image that you see gives the perception that it is "cutting" through mirage. This is not the thread to get into a long discussion about this, but might be a good topic on its own.
I usually don't test for mirage in my reviews, but now I'm thinking I ought to, especially when I'm doing comparisons to other scopes.
LOL! I think we should form a club - the "I could have bought a new truck, but decided to find the right scope" clubscopes are like everything else in life i buy and use what i like and what works best for me...only problem with scopes is ive spent enough to pay cash for a new truck finding the one that fits best LOL!!