re-crowning for those on the fence

isaaccarlson

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I recrowned my barrel today. I know, I know, most of you will ask why. The answer is simple. I was starting to lose faith in my factory crown. It looked fine a while back, but I never really truly looked at it real close or from straight on. I always figured it was good because my groups were pretty good.

I shot some velocitors a while back and the POI was low and right. I did not like this and started to wonder about the crown. Well, back to today. I scrubbed my barrel squeaky clean and made sure to remove all the carbon from the crown. Sure enough when I looked at it real good, it was cut wrong from the factory.

I decided right there that it had to be fixed. I was going to order a reamer from dave manson for the recrown but I had a hard time parting with $125+shipping.

Some of you know I have a wood lathe and like to turn plastic and metal on it as well. I decided I might as well try recrowning my barrel and if it didn't work, I would have to get the reamer anyway and if it did work I wouldn't have to spent $150.

I have to say with a BIG grin that it was a smashing success! I removed the barrel and stuck it in the lathe. That 20 inches of barrel wanted to move around some when I spun it up so I put a rest under it and used a paper towel for a buffer and grabbed a couple of files and a parting tool and went to it.

I had to do it freehand because my rest was under the barrel. There was no chatter this way and the metal peeled off as if it was brass. I was very surprised.

The whole job took less than 10 minutes. The new crown looks WAY better than the old one and is perfect. No burrs at all. I polished it with some fine crocus cloth and put some oil on it until I can get more cold blue.

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The camera battery went dead so a phone pic will have to do for now....
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I fired 5 rounds after assembling the rifle just to test for function. There were no problems and the report sounded sharp and crisp instead of dull. I packed up and headed over to my dad's place to say hello. I would test the rifle there and see how my crown had turned out.

Remember, I had scrubbed the barrel clean before the work and had already fired 5 shots at home. Now it was a cold barrel again. I set up a target in the yard somewhere between 35 and 50 yards. My brother held a flashlight so I could see the target and I shot 6 quick 5 shot groups from a prone position on the cold deck. BRRRR. I was cold and shivering.

My brother retrieved the target and said the last two groups were ok but the first 4 were horrible. My heart sank. Until I saw the target. I wished I had shot more groups because they were still tightening up as the barrel re-seasoned. Here is the target he retrieved.

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I am very satisfied with the new crown and prefer this shape to the 11° crown the manson reamer would have given me. The best part is, I can cut any shape crown I want, free!!!

If you are wondering about a new crown, just do it. That is all I can say. It can't hurt anything and sure could help. happy shooting.
 
Re: re-crowning for those on the fence

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: isaaccarlson</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I recrowned my barrel today. I know, I know, most of you will ask why. The answer is simple. I was starting to lose faith in my factory crown. It looked fine a while back, but I never really truly looked at it real close or from straight on. I always figured it was good because my groups were pretty good.

I shot some velocitors a while back and the POI was low and right. I did not like this and started to wonder about the crown. Well, back to today. I scrubbed my barrel squeaky clean and made sure to remove all the carbon from the crown. Sure enough when I looked at it real good, it was cut wrong from the factory.

I decided right there that it had to be fixed. I was going to order a reamer from dave manson for the recrown but I had a hard time parting with $125+shipping.

Some of you know I have a wood lathe and like to turn plastic and metal on it as well. I decided I might as well try recrowning my barrel and if it didn't work, I would have to get the reamer anyway and if it did work I wouldn't have to spent $150.

I have to say with a BIG grin that it was a smashing success! I removed the barrel and stuck it in the lathe. That 20 inches of barrel wanted to move around some when I spun it up so I put a rest under it and used a paper towel for a buffer and grabbed a couple of files and a parting tool and went to it.

I had to do it freehand because my rest was under the barrel. There was no chatter this way and the metal peeled off as if it was brass. I was very surprised.

The whole job took less than 10 minutes. The new crown looks WAY better than the old one and is perfect. No burrs at all. I polished it with some fine crocus cloth and put some oil on it until I can get more cold blue.

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The camera battery went dead so a phone pic will have to do for now....
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I fired 5 rounds after assembling the rifle just to test for function. There were no problems and the report sounded sharp and crisp instead of dull. I packed up and headed over to my dad's place to say hello. I would test the rifle there and see how my crown had turned out.

Remember, I had scrubbed the barrel clean before the work and had already fired 5 shots at home. Now it was a cold barrel again. I set up a target in the yard somewhere between 35 and 50 yards. My brother held a flashlight so I could see the target and I shot 6 quick 5 shot groups from a prone position on the cold deck. BRRRR. I was cold and shivering.

My brother retrieved the target and said the last two groups were ok but the first 4 were horrible. My heart sank. Until I saw the target. I wished I had shot more groups because they were still tightening up as the barrel re-seasoned. Here is the target he retrieved.

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I am very satisfied with the new crown and prefer this shape to the 11° crown the manson reamer would have given me. The best part is, I can cut any shape crown I want, free!!!

If you are wondering about a new crown, just do it. That is all I can say. <span style="font-weight: bold">It can't hurt anything</span> and sure could help. happy shooting. </div></div>

REALLY?? See bold ^
 
Re: re-crowning for those on the fence

REALLY. A new crown can't hurt. It will either improve or stay the same. The pictures show how I did it, not how others should do it. I have a lathe and I put it to use. The jaws were more than able to hold that barrel in there. You should see the huge chunks of wood I put on there:0
 
Re: re-crowning for those on the fence

As long as you are comfortable in doing it ..... go for it man
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I have done some sketchy things with my little lathe as well...and I have some marks to prove it as well.


Have you tried playing with the crown, on another barrel, to see which one will give you the best grouping?
 
Re: re-crowning for those on the fence

I have not played with other crowns. Besides, how can you group better than one hole?

I do think that recrowning is a part of routine maintenance and should be done every once in a while. Not a chop, just a touch up. A crown will wear over time and should be refreshed. This is part of the reason I prefer a slightly angled crown. It is more blunt and will take longer to wear/burn because the edge will not get as hot.

I did not see my action as sketchy. The barrel was held securely by four steel jaws and was centered. No problems.
 
Re: re-crowning for those on the fence

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: clayne_b</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Looks good man! </div></div>

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