Rem 700 5R .300WM info

[m1ajunkie]

After getting a chance to shoot 800+ yds this weekend, I have the bug to start a .300WM project. I am going to be using this rifle for shooting steel at ranges my gas gun won't shoot, mainly 800+yds with the max range being 2200yds. I am mainly looking for hits between 800yds and 1 mile to narrow it down.

The rifle I have found to start this project is the remington 700 5r in .300WM, but I would like to hear opinions on the rifle before going to much further. How do you like yours in a mainly stock configuration? What kind of accuracy are you getting?

Next up, a couple questions:
1: DBM's, what dbm's are available to use with the factory stock, and will be compatible with a mcmillan in the future?

2: What is the twist on the barrel?

3: How is the factory stock for precision shooting? I have seen where the rem 700 sps's have cheap stocks, but the one on the 5r seems much better. Is this true? Should I get the factory stock skim bedded or would this be a waste?

4: What is the thread pitch on the muzzle threads? I plan to run my surefire 762ss can and need to make sure the mount will work with the threads.

5: How is the factory trigger? I will upgrade the trigger as I have funds, but for a while I will be running the factory trigger.

Thanks for the help.

 

[JB02]

Re: Rem 700 5R .300WM info

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: m1ajunkie</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
1: DBM's, what dbm's are available to use with the factory stock, and will be compatible with a mcmillan in the future?</div></div>

If you want to pay top dollar, Badger M5. If you want something just as good for half the price, go with Jeff Allen's CDI Precision for a R700 LA. I think there is even a group buy going on now and he'll even inlet into the stock for you. Oh, and he sells the AI mags that go with the DBM too.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: m1ajunkie</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> 2: What is the twist on the barrel?</div></div>
.300 Win Mags are typically 1/10. This lets you stabilize the higher grain .308 bullets (>200); .308 5R is 1/11.25

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: m1ajunkie</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> 3: How is the factory stock for precision shooting? I have seen where the rem 700 sps's have cheap stocks, but the one on the 5r seems much better. Is this true? Should I get the factory stock skim bedded or would this be a waste?</div></div>

The Remington 5R stock is not the cheap SPS stock; it's composite with aluminum blocks. I personally hate the spider web green with stainless steel finish, so I duracoated mine. If you're into "precision," pillar bed the action with some DEVCON.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: m1ajunkie</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> 4: What is the thread pitch on the muzzle threads? I plan to run my surefire 762ss can and need to make sure the mount will work with the threads.</div></div>

This is the only question I'm not too sure about. A quick internet search yielded squat for me ... perhaps another hide member can help you out; or you could give Remington a call.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: m1ajunkie</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> 5: How is the factory trigger? I will upgrade the trigger as I have funds, but for a while I will be running the factory trigger. </div></div>

I think the factory x-pro trigger is junk. Lots of creep and lame adjustment mechanism. By far, the best upgrade on my 5R was getting a Timney set to 1.5 lbs. You can install it yourself if you have a small punch, a soft mallet, an allen wrench, and a set of needlenose pliers.

 

[m1ajunkie]

Re: Rem 700 5R .300WM info

Thanks for the info, looks like the 5r rem 700 is where I want to start my project.

I haven't had any luck finding info on the muzzle threads so if any one knows if a surefire 762ss suppressor mount will work or not, let me know.

 

[Anchor Zero Six]

Re: Rem 700 5R .300WM info

The Milspec 5R isnt threaded that may be why you cant find thread pitch info

You will need to have a smith turn down the barrel for the can mount and thread the barrel. Dont worry about what pitch it is if your smith asks for that info leave quickly...or better yet run.

Stocks are personal preferance. While the HS stock isnt cheap its far from my favorite. You may like it you may hate it, I found the wrist of the stock to be at a very uncomfortable position.

Far as I can recall for a true drop in DBM you are looking at Hooper and HS and I think the Wyatts offered through Stockys. Other options would require inletting which you may or may want to do depending on if you decide to keep the stock or not. The chassis systems incorporate DBM so may be worth looking into.

Factory trigger will do till you can upgrade they are not horrible but there is a reason the aftermarket trigger market sells so many units.

May want to reconsider your desire to shoot 2200 yds with a 300WM.

Have you considered looking at the MLR 338? It has a brake and a DBM and the price isnt much more than the 5R when you consider whats already included.

 

[bth87]

Re: Rem 700 5R .300WM info

Not true, the new 5r can be had with or without threaded barrels.... However the threaded barrels are shorter that the non threaded, the .308 threaded is either 22 or 20 inches ( can't remember exactly) and the .300 threaded is 24 inches. I do not know however what the thread pitch is as I was only able to handle the rifles briefly.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Anchor Zero Six</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The Milspec 5R isnt threaded that may be why you cant find thread pitch info

You will need to have a smith turn down the barrel for the can mount and thread the barrel. Dont worry about what pitch it is if your smith asks for that info leave quickly...or better yet run.

Stocks are personal preferance. While the HS stock isnt cheap its far from my favorite. You may like it you may hate it, I found the wrist of the stock to be at a very uncomfortable position.

Far as I can recall for a true drop in DBM you are looking at Hooper and HS and I think the Wyatts offered through Stockys. Other options would require inletting which you may or may want to do depending on if you decide to keep the stock or not. The chassis systems incorporate DBM so may be worth looking into.

Factory trigger will do till you can upgrade they are not horrible but there is a reason the aftermarket trigger market sells so many units.

May want to reconsider your desire to shoot 2200 yds with a 300WM.

Have you considered looking at the MLR 338? It has a brake and a DBM and the price isnt much more than the 5R when you consider whats already included.


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[Anchor Zero Six]

Re: Rem 700 5R .300WM info

Good to know havent seen that yet. You will still need to have the barrel turned down as the mount for the can is an overlapping design.

Rifle threads should" be 5/8-24 which would be the Armalight AR-10 mount, the KAC and M-14 mounts are a different pitch.

 

[SSSamurai]

Re: Rem 700 5R .300WM info

The new threaded 5Rs in 308 and 300WM are both 5/8X24 thread. The 308 has a 20" barrel and the 300 has a 24". The 300 is a 1:10 twist. The HS mag system works, but ends up costing more than Badger, etc when you start buying the HS mags. I like the grip of the stock but needed a cheekpiece on the ones I had. I would get down behind one and check it out before you get the bottom metal. That way you don't spend money on inletting a stock if you aren't keeping it.

 

[m1ajunkie]

Re: Rem 700 5R .300WM info

Thanks for the additional help guys. I didn't realize the factory threaded barrel was shorter than the non threaded. I was hoping to get one of the 26" models, so I may have to get a smith to not only profile, but thread the barrel as well. If thats the case the factory thread pitch won't matter.

Lastly, is a price in the $1100- $1200 range fair?

Anchor six zero, I am not building this rifle with the intent of shooting 2200yds. I am looking to make a shot at a mile occasionally but I want this rifle to excell in the 800-1500yd range. I know a mile is a lot for the .300WM, but given several external factors the .300WM is as large as I would like to go at this point.

 

[Anchor Zero Six]

Re: Rem 700 5R .300WM info

LOL yeah I thought 2200 was a tad lofty of a goal

Sorry to force the Kool-Aid but I'm from the camp of short barrels and heavy projectiles. Running a 20" on my 300WM and the velocity loss is nothing to get worked up over when comparing factory ammo. If you reload you can get the velocity right back to where it was with a little tweaking of the load.

Being that 26 compared to 20 is a bit drastic I think you will be more than ok with the 24 over the 26. Consider that after you install the Surefire mount you will have a barrel length just shy of 28" if you started with the 24" you would be close to 26"

 

[ssnfa]

Re: Rem 700 5R .300WM info

I am building up a factory threaded .300WM Mispec 5R. Here it is mocked up before I sent the stock to the hydrodip company and the barreled action to be KG gunkoted.

 

[m1ajunkie]

Re: Rem 700 5R .300WM info

LT JGB, do you have a link to the jeff allen group buy?

Also, what are my options as far as chassis systems? I know about the AI system, and have a little experience with them but they are not my first choice. I just don't know what else is out there.

I remember someone saying I believe it was manners offering a "mini chassis" system to drop into a traditional type stock. Any one have info on that?

Lastly, will I be able to sell the factory 5R stock for any extra money?

 

[JB02]

Re: Rem 700 5R .300WM info

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: m1ajunkie</div><div class="ubbcode-body">LT JGB, do you have a link to the jeff allen group buy?

Also, what are my options as far as chassis systems? I know about the AI system, and have a little experience with them but they are not my first choice. I just don't know what else is out there.

I remember someone saying I believe it was manners offering a "mini chassis" system to drop into a traditional type stock. Any one have info on that?

Lastly, will I be able to sell the factory 5R stock for any extra money?</div></div>

http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthre...359#Post3070359

Looks like the group buy is probably over, but he does them pretty frequently. Perhaps if you give him a call he'll still let you in on it, he's a very cool dude. Even if you can't get the group buy price, his bottom metal is very competitively priced.

 

[Rob01]

Re: Rem 700 5R .300WM info

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: m1ajunkie</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
I remember someone saying I believe it was manners offering a "mini chassis" system to drop into a traditional type stock. Any one have info on that?

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Yes Manners does offer a mini chassis for both long and short action Remingtons. Just bolt in and go and no need for pistol grips like other chassis systems. You can get the ease of use of the chassis systems with a standard stock feel. Here's more info
http://mannersstocks.com/mcs-dbm-mini-chassis/

A couple of pics of my short action mini chassis

 

[calling4life]

Re: Rem 700 5R .300WM info

mcree chassis, XLR chassis, whiskey 3 chassis, you can get a manners with their mini chassis.

XLR has a new carbon chassis as well, worth a look, they won't kill you on weight, though I didn't think their normal model was bad either.

 

[m1ajunkie]

Re: Rem 700 5R .300WM info

Going to pick up my .300wm 5r this weekend.

Since this rifle is going to get upgraded as I get funds, I will be running the factory stock for a while.

Is the factory stock already bedded, or should I have a smith do some sort of bedding work?

 

[mewillis]

Re: Rem 700 5R .300WM info

to confuse this thread more, I got a .308 non threaded 5R about 4 months ago which is 24" and a couple weeks back got a .300 TB 5R which is also 24" which suprised me as I assumed I was getting a 26" bbl. I'm not sure why Rem. reduced the length on the TB??? maybe it has to do with optimal supressor length??

 

[m1ajunkie]

Re: Rem 700 5R .300WM info

Any one know if the 5r stocks are bedded from the factory?

 

[Sprayed99]

Re: Rem 700 5R .300WM info

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: m1ajunkie</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Any one know if the 5r stocks are bedded from the factory? </div></div>

They are an aluminum bedding block. I would have it skim bedded for now.