Gunsmithing Remington 5R problem.

[trobertson5-0]

I posted this under the rifle section a few days ago and got no responce so I figured I would give it a go here. To update I took the rifle out yesterday and had one FTF out of 6 rounds fired. I am really at my wits end,please help if you can with any ideas.

I recently sent my 5R off to be dura coated so paint would stick to the stainless. I got it back and wasn't really happy with the results. The finish was thin in spots so you could see the original black of the stock and there was some run over into places I didn't think there should be. No big deal because it was getting painted anyway.

I had it skim bedded,a Timney trigger installed,and then installed my base rings and scope.

The rifle had 126 rounds of my handloads through it prior to being sent away with no troubles. Handload was virgin WW brass with 44.0 grains of Varget and a Sierra 175 matchking with a CCI #34 primer. loaded at 2.80 OAL. When I went to fire the rifle this time it would not ignite the primers at all,light strikes. I took a friends PSS and fired 15 in a row of this load.

I am aware that CCI #34 are harder than normal so I switched them in my latest batch for CCI BR with the rest of the load being the same. I still got light hits twice out of 26 rounds yesterday. Great way to check for a flinch,but not good!!

I took the bolt apart and there was no visable rust or duracoat runover on the internals. What else could it be and how can I fix it?? I tend to believe it was SOMETHING done by the "gunsmith" who duracoated it because it worked fine before. Any help is appreciated!!

 

[nashlaw]

Re: Remington 5R problem.

You might check the firing pin assembly for a heavy load of grease. For a feel-good measure, go ahead and clean it with some solvent and lightly oil.

I have used CCI BR primers for years and cannot remember a primer problem. You might try some of those and see if it makes a difference.

 

[trobertson5-0]

Re: Remington 5R problem.

My latest batch is all CCI BR. I stopped using the CCI#34 as my first step because I know they are harder than normal(although I have NEVER had one misfire in any other rifle) It cut down on the misfires by 95% but I still get one every now and then,disconcerting to say the least. I checked the bolt assembly and there was no lube present. I lightly lubed it with Ballistol and it is still doing it.

 

[Dans40X]

Re: Remington 5R problem.

The Timney trigger group is the problem.
The mis-fit Timney housing is allowing the sear to drag on the f/pin striker causing your mis-fires.

Install the OEM trigger group & your problem with mis-fires will be history.

 

[CWPINST]

Re: Remington 5R problem.

+1 on the trigger being the culprit.

 

[trobertson5-0]

Re: Remington 5R problem.

OK. That sounds the most plausible so far!! I will put the X mark back in and see. Thanks. T.J.

 

[trobertson5-0]

Re: Remington 5R problem.

Gentlemen,

I found a old Remington trigger and installed it last night. Today I couldn't get to the range but I fired one of the rounds that wouldn't fire the other day into the ground in the back yard and primed 5 cases with CCI#34s and fired all of them on the first try. I believe my problem is solved! Thanks so much to all who helped. TJR

 

[NaHa]

Re: Remington 5R problem.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: trobertson5-0</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
I recently sent my 5R off to be dura coated so paint would stick to the stainless. I got it back and wasn't really happy with the results. The finish was thin in spots so you could see the original black of the stock and there was some run over into places I didn't think there should be. No big deal because it was getting painted anyway.

I had it skim bedded,a Timney trigger installed,and then installed my base rings and scope.

The rifle had 126 rounds of my handloads through it prior to being sent away with no troubles. </div></div>

Yet another example of why you should leave well enough alone. When you f*ck with a perfectly good factory setup, and you pay money for such botched "workmanship", then you have been doubly screwed. And not in a good way, unless you're cool with the prison love.

Newbies take note!!! Too many so-called gunsmiths are complete hacks.

 

[trobertson5-0]

Re: Remington 5R problem.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Nate Haler</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: trobertson5-0</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
I recently sent my 5R off to be dura coated so paint would stick to the stainless. I got it back and wasn't really happy with the results. The finish was thin in spots so you could see the original black of the stock and there was some run over into places I didn't think there should be. No big deal because it was getting painted anyway.

I had it skim bedded,a Timney trigger installed,and then installed my base rings and scope.

The rifle had 126 rounds of my handloads through it prior to being sent away with no troubles. </div></div>

Yet another example of why you should leave well enough alone. When you f*ck with a perfectly good factory setup, and you pay money for such botched "workmanship", then you have been doubly screwed. And not in a good way, unless you're cool with the prison love.

Newbies take note!!! Too many so-called gunsmiths are complete hacks. </div></div>

Nate,

If the paint would have stuck to the 5Rs stainless finish I would have never sent her out. I had him swap out the factory trigger because it was a Xmark trigger and it sucked. As it is I took the rifle back out today with the old Remington trigger I installed and had 0 misfires and it grouped as well as ever if not a little better than before. I am happy now. Thanks again to all! T.J.

 

[SND]

Re: Remington 5R problem.

Dan:

How did you conclude the timney housing was mis-fit??

Scott

 

[300WSM]

Re: Remington 5R problem.

Installing a wolff trigger spring makes for a nice factory trig