Gunsmithing Remington 700 SPS Tactical?? super extractor?

[flyfisher117]

does the SPS tactical have some super extractor? This gun has been nothing but a pain in the ass and if there is ANOTHER problem with it then im about to call Remington and tell them i want my money back and i will go to a Savage.

From what little bit i actually know about guns and their inner workings it looks like the extractor on the bolt is damaging the casings it is slightly damaging the rim (i cant get a picture of this) but its making the bolt face VERY dirty with little brass shavings does the SPS tactical just have a military grade extractor that was made not planning on people reloading its just made to get the casing out every time? or do i need to take the gun to the gun smith AGAIN because something is messed up? if it just damaged the casings id say screw it and live with it but i dont want these stupid little brass shavings into the bolt or trigger or anywhere important and messing it all up

so based on my crappy pictures what do you think?

also those pics are fairly clean after i wiped it off to see what if maybe it wasnt just oily and clinging onto the shavings

 

[Tun_x]

Re: Remington 700 SPS Tactical?? super extractor?

Do you have a picture of what its doing to the brass?

 

[flyfisher117]

Re: Remington 700 SPS Tactical?? super extractor?

im workin on getting one

 

[Hateca]

Re: Remington 700 SPS Tactical?? super extractor?

This looks like a .223 no? If so push in on the claw of the extractor. If there is no spring to the extractor you have one of the bolts that have an out of spec extractor grove or out of spec extractor. This was common with .223’s, not sure if Remington fix it or not.

The extractor should snap over the case rim, if there is no spring to the extractor it will shave the brass from the case rim.

 

[flyfisher117]

Re: Remington 700 SPS Tactical?? super extractor?

HAHA woops i forgot that part again. yes it is a .223 and the little circle silver thing is springy it has a pretty stiff feeling spring

 

[Hateca]

Re: Remington 700 SPS Tactical?? super extractor?

No not the ejector the extractor. Push in on the extractor claw it should push in towards the bolt nose rim and spring back.

If not you have an out of spec extractor grove, out of spec extractor, or crap behind the extractor keeping it from springing over the case rim.

 

[flyfisher117]

Re: Remington 700 SPS Tactical?? super extractor?

oh yes that little thing does move but its a pretty good spring behind it so im cuirous if its just a little bit stiff and will loosen up after the guns been shot more.

And ive got some pics of the brass uploading now

 

[DAVETOOLEY]

Re: Remington 700 SPS Tactical?? super extractor?

Looks like a 223 bolt face. Seems like a common complaint with that bolt face. What happens is the extractor as the bolt is rotated has to slice over the rim. That's probably the damage you're talking about. The brass shavings come with any Remington extractor. It's just worse with a 223 bolt face. Also it worse with that particular model because of the finish. You can minimize the amount of damage/shavings by polishing the extractor with a Cratex wheel on a Dremel tool.

 

[flyfisher117]

Re: Remington 700 SPS Tactical?? super extractor?

Here are the picture they arent the greatest but its hard to get a good pic of a shiny brass... anyways these are just 3 brass i grabbed out of the bunch from today you can kind of see the small flattened spot on the rim some of them are a bit worse than the 3 and some you cant even really tell other than minor scuffs. now that i see the extractor claw takes a good push to get to move im wondering if my problem wont just go away as everything breaks in? and also ive noticed that when closing the bolt it takes some pressure not when pushing it forward but when pushing the bolt handle down to lock the bolt inplace and then its ready to fire is this just the stiff springs?

can ya make out the small impressions im talking about on the rim?

 

[flyfisher117]

Re: Remington 700 SPS Tactical?? super extractor?

will it really hurt anything if i just make sure to keep the shavings cleaned out? the gun isnt going to be a target gun for a while mostly hunting and such so its not going to get hundred of rounds fired a weekend so if i just clean out the shavings after each day will it matter any? hurt the brass at all as far as integrity?

 

[Dirtywhiteboy04]

Re: Remington 700 SPS Tactical?? super extractor?

my sps tactical in 223 had this problem also it was so hard to push the bolt handle down when chambering a round and it damaged the casing exactly like yours the extractor was to large i took a small file and filed it down very slowly and tryed a round in the rifle often till it finally was able to close with out much hassle and was not damging the casing any longer jus go slow and try a case often

 

[eddieharren]

Re: Remington 700 SPS Tactical?? super extractor?

I'd like you to explain just how you filed the extractor down.
Did you remove the extractor from the bolt?

 

[deadly0311]

Re: Remington 700 SPS Tactical?? super extractor?

With the 223 bolt face, i fought this same battle with my wifes. Order you a couple new extractor claws from Brownells, then remove that one, before you put the new one in file it down a tad and then install it.

Also be careful because a little filing goes a long way once you get through the surface hardening.

 

[DAVETOOLEY]

Re: Remington 700 SPS Tactical?? super extractor?

Those marks won't hurt anything. A tooth brush to the bolt faced everytime you clean the barrel will take care of the shavings. That's a habit will should all get into anyway. Only cure is a Sako extractor installation.

 

[svt_tactical]

Re: Remington 700 SPS Tactical?? super extractor?

I have a sps tactical in 308 and ended up polishing like mentioned above to help keep my brass in better shape, not sure it was truly hurting it but it helped me in my mind.

 

[Dirtywhiteboy04]

Re: Remington 700 SPS Tactical?? super extractor?

my gun shop had a small file on hand that i used it was the size of a pencil tip it took about 30 mins. but i didnt remove the extractor heres a kit from midway that looks like what i used. http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=894734

 

[eddieharren]

Re: Remington 700 SPS Tactical?? super extractor?

Uh Huh.

 

[flyfisher117]

Re: Remington 700 SPS Tactical?? super extractor?

ehh ill just live with the cuts on the casings and keep an old toothbrush for cleaning... when i have to start removing very much needed metal from a gun i get a little scared

 

[wesboyd585]

Re: Remington 700 SPS Tactical?? super extractor?

my 223 5r had the same problem. took it over to dave and it works flawlessly now!

 

[dar1246]

Re: Remington 700 SPS Tactical?? super extractor?

I had the same problem with a Suregon Action. The bolt face was off 2 thousandths. My gunsmith work on the bolt face to get it to work. I was a little piss spending 1200 for an action but he fixed it.

Filing and ordering extractors will not fix it. It looks and sounds like the same problem. The reason the bolt is harder to close is the extractor is cutting the rim of the brass.

My suggestion is to call Remmington and talk with their service dept. Send them some pics. and I'am sure they will either fix it or replace it. Good luck

 

[D.R.]

Re: Remington 700 SPS Tactical?? super extractor?

My SPS Tactical in .308 showed the same copper shavings on the bolt face, however, I never noticed a problem with damaging the brass.

How new is the rifle? I found that my extractor needed to break in - for the first 200 rounds or so I had intermittent problems with the ejector spitting the round out before the bolt was back far enough to clear the ejection port. The rifle has around 500 rounds through it now and I have not had a FTEject in quite a while now.

 

[monteboy84]

Re: Remington 700 SPS Tactical?? super extractor?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dave Tooley</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Only cure is a Sako extractor installation. </div></div>

I'm sorry sir, but that's quite simply not true. There have been plenty of suggestions in this very thread that will fix the problem without having to hack into the bolt for a Sako extractor.

There are plenty of Remingtons out there that have factory extractors and don't damage the brass in this manner. When they're properly repaired, this won't happen.

Sako extractor conversions have their own set of problems but that's another discussion for another day.

-matt

 

[dar1246]

Re: Remington 700 SPS Tactical?? super extractor?

I don't think an extractor needs to be broke in. That is false. The gun should run smooth. Like I said early Remington will do something about this. Just need to call them.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: D.R.</div><div class="ubbcode-body">My SPS Tactical in .308 showed the same copper shavings on the bolt face, however, I never noticed a problem with damaging the brass.

How new is the rifle? I found that my extractor needed to break in - for the first 200 rounds or so I had intermittent problems with the ejector spitting the round out before the bolt was back far enough to clear the ejection port. The rifle has around 500 rounds through it now and I have not had a FTEject in quite a while now. </div></div>

 

[Kells81]

Re: Remington 700 SPS Tactical?? super extractor?

I had this issue with a 223 BF rifle. The solution I found was order one from brownells, dropped it in and no more issues. I did notice the one brownells was selling to be a tad smaller than the one I took out.