Republicans Play Checkers While Democrats Play Chess: Attack on Electoral College

[Longshot231]

This legislation can't be good. McConnell endorses it. So that raises a red flag right there along with nine other RINOs.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/27/us/mcconnell-electoral-count-act.html

The one thing that the article points out is language in the Bill that "prevent state officials from submitting electoral votes that do not align with the popular vote in a state."

I looked up the text of the bill and it doesn't have those exact words. However, in section 104 of the bill it spells out the duties of the "executive" of each state.

Text - S.4573 - 117th Congress (2021-2022): Electoral Count Reform and Presidential Transition Improvement Act of 2022

Text for S.4573 - 117th Congress (2021-2022): Electoral Count Reform and Presidential Transition Improvement Act of 2022

www.congress.gov

NEWS FLASH! There are major problems with outlining the duties of the "executive" of each state. Look at Article II, Section 1 of the Constitution. It says in part:

Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.

No where in there or anywhere else in the Constitution does it say anything about the duties of the "executive" of the state. This is another way for the democrats to cede power to leftists governors in blue states than might flip to red on election day.

Another problem with the bill is in Section 102. It states in part:

"The electors of President and Vice President shall be appointed, in each State, on election day, in accordance with the laws of the State enacted prior to election day.”

Remember what Article II, Section 1 of the Constitution says. If it looks like there were major improprieties on election day, the state legislature can throw out the results of the election and substitute electors as they see fit AND the governor can do nothing about it.

Some people may not like that but go with the letter of the constitution.

From the article, Ted Cruz said;

"This bill is all about Donald J. Trump, and in our lifetimes, no one has driven Democrats in this body more out of their minds than President Trump,”

Lizard Cheney has introduced her own bill in the house. That looks like another parting shot at Donald Trump.

McConnell backs Senate's election reform bill, calls Cheney-backed plan a 'non-starter'

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell will back a bipartisan bill to reform the Electoral Count Act after the January 6, 2021 attack on the Capitol.

www.foxnews.com

 

[SniperBro]

This issue aside, Republicans always play checkers while Dems play chess. Then they wonder why they are fighting an uphill battle on literally every issue. Very few of them get it.

 

[Old Man with Gun]

Help me keep track, is this a thread were we make every elected Democrat out to be a complete idiot or where we claim they are all masterminds outwitting the Republicans at every turn?

 

[Longshot231]

Help me keep track, is this a thread were we make every elected Democrat out to be a complete idiot or where we claim they are all masterminds outwitting the Republicans at every turn?

The democrats aren’t the idiots. The people voting for them are the idiots.

On the other hand, I won’t say they are masterminds but let’s look at it this way.

A skunk, raccoon or a snake are just animals that are going to do what animals do.

So if someone leaves the doors and windows of their house open then when the critters move in, who is at fault? Is it the animals or the home owner?

The republicans letting the democrats get away with this chicanery are more at fault than the democrats.

 

[TicTacTex]

The electoral college doesn’t matter. 2020 election comes to mind.

 

[308pirate]

This legislation can't be good. McConnell endorses it. So that raises a red flag right there along with nine other RINOs.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/27/us/mcconnell-electoral-count-act.html

The one thing that the article points out is language in the Bill that "prevent state officials from submitting electoral votes that do not align with the popular vote in a state."

I looked up the text of the bill and it doesn't have those exact words. However, in section 104 of the bill it spells out the duties of the "executive" of each state.

Text - S.4573 - 117th Congress (2021-2022): Electoral Count Reform and Presidential Transition Improvement Act of 2022

Text for S.4573 - 117th Congress (2021-2022): Electoral Count Reform and Presidential Transition Improvement Act of 2022

www.congress.gov

NEWS FLASH! There are major problems with outlining the duties of the "executive" of each state. Look at Article II, Section 1 of the Constitution. It says in part:

Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.

No where in there or anywhere else in the Constitution does it say anything about the duties of the "executive" of the state. This is another way for the democrats to cede power to leftists governors in blue states than might flip to red on election day.

Another problem with the bill is in Section 102. It states in part:

"The electors of President and Vice President shall be appointed, in each State, on election day, in accordance with the laws of the State enacted prior to election day.”

Remember what Article II, Section 1 of the Constitution says. If it looks like there were major improprieties on election day, the state legislature can throw out the results of the election and substitute electors as they see fit AND the governor can do nothing about it.

Some people may not like that but go with the letter of the constitution.

From the article, Ted Cruz said;

"This bill is all about Donald J. Trump, and in our lifetimes, no one has driven Democrats in this body more out of their minds than President Trump,”

Lizard Cheney has introduced her own bill in the house. That looks like another parting shot at Donald Trump.

McConnell backs Senate's election reform bill, calls Cheney-backed plan a 'non-starter'

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell will back a bipartisan bill to reform the Electoral Count Act after the January 6, 2021 attack on the Capitol.

www.foxnews.com

This bullshit, if it even makes it into law, will absolutely not survive a constitutional challenge by governors.

 

[JoshPutman]

The republicans are barely playing tiddly winks.

 

[Longshot231]

This bullshit, if it even makes it into law, will absolutely not survive a constitutional challenge by governors.

I'm not sure how the governors would have standing if they challenged anything as the constitution is very clear. The legislatures have the ultimate say on choosing electors.

IMHO, the founding fathers left the governors out by design. While choosing electors is not completely done by popular vote, they are chosen by a group represented by the voters. In other words it was a blend of democratic voting combined with strict hierarchy of republicanism.

That way, one single person in a state would not be the sole factor in picking the electors. So the governors must stay out of the process of choosing electors. Which is why this bill is troublesome.

 

[308pirate]

I'm not sure how the governors would have standing if they challenged anything as the constitution is very clear. The legislatures have the ultimate say on choosing electors.

IMHO, the founding fathers left the governors out by design. While choosing electors is not completely done by popular vote, they are chosen by a group represented by the voters. In other words it was a blend of democratic voting combined with strict hierarchy of republicanism.

That way, one single person in a state would not be the sole factor in picking the electors. So the governors must stay out of the process of choosing electors. Which is why this bill is troublesome.

Ok the speaker of the house then

The point stands, the bill is unconstitutional prima facie and its passage means dick squat.

 

[The King]

Help me keep track, is this a thread were we make every elected Democrat out to be a complete idiot or where we claim they are all masterminds outwitting the Republicans at every turn?

The answer is both. The light switch that flips on and off to change the battlefield layout is called a “think tank”.

 

[lonegunman762x51]

When your "friends" are working with your enemies to destroy America with some scheme to "reform" elections created by people who despise the country. They are not your friends.

 

[Darayavaus]

written in 2018. very true and the conclusion was prophetic.

CONSERVATIVES ARE LOSERS​

ROOSH VALIZADEH SEPTEMBER 24, 2018

• CULTURE

79 COMMENTS

Roosh Valizadeh
Daryush "Roosh" Valizadeh created ROK in October 2012. You can visit his blog at RooshV.com or follow him on Twitter and Facebook.

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• 

The following article was originally published on Roosh V.
For the world to get to how it is today, with the nearly complete elimination of tradition in favor of a globohomo world where diddling little children is becoming normalized, conservatives have had to lose every meaningful cultural war in the history of man. When someone declares themselves a conservative, they’re in fact stating that they are a loser, someone who is meant to take the fall when the left comes attacking.
Conservatives have lost on every battlefront: free speech, the military, the universities, marriage, nuclear family, child education, the media, the government, Boy Scouts, business, law and justice, Christianity, patriarchy, immigration, the welfare state, and capitalism. The right to bear arms is the only battle they’re not losing in a rout, but I’m confident they will lose that too within a decade’s time. Conservative institutions are being infiltrated and subverted, or have disappeared off the face of the earth, and there is no sign of them ever coming back.

The enemy
Why are conservatives such losers? Because they desire to merely hold the line while their enemy rushes at them full speed. They don’t want to conquer new lands, kill their enemy, or inflict real harm. They want to maintain the status quo while the left froths at the mouth to win, energized with momentum and passion. The left is so dissatisfied at the state of the world because of their deep-seated inner dysfunction that they put their entire being into trying to make it better. They don’t know how to enjoy their lives so they have to attack the lives of others.
Conservatives, on the other hand, have no momentum or passion. They just want to be left alone, which makes them easy pickings for a collective that is hellbent on achieving their nightmare utopia. In the end, conservatives are the Spartans in 300 who have trained their entire lives to lose the battle, even if they are pound-for-pound stronger than their enemy.
Conservatives have also shown to be comically susceptible to leftist ideas when it’s presented as “human rights.” Two decades ago, the vast majority of conservatives would have stood against gay marriage, but a few years of cheesy “love is love” commercials was all it took for them to change their mind. Their motto of “live and let live” is only reasonable to hold if their enemy believed the same. They give the crying baby its bottle and from that milk it gets fat and strong and decides to kill the entire family. Conservatives don’t understand that giving an inch to the left eventually results in absolute defeat. They have to psychotically refuse to give any ground, even if practical logic or fairness is staring them in the face, but we know they won’t do that.

Conservative bird feeding his enemy
Another problem conservatives face is technology, which is not agnostic but rather liberating. It allows man to rely less on traditions, family, social bonds, and religion, all things that the left hates. The more technology you have, the more you can be an atomized unit in a little urbanized box, reliant only on your service job and digital device to keep you alive and somewhat sane while using Uber and Lyft to travel in and out of your self-imposed quarantine zone. Because of technology, the conservatism of today is merely the liberalism of twenty years ago. I challenge you to find a single attractive “conservative” girl who hasn’t tried Tinder or engaged in abundant pre-marital sex. Look at the life of any self-professed conservative and odds are you’ll find a rather cosmopolitan existence that is far removed from nature and rural living.
The biggest reason why conservatives will continue to lose is that they’re still not ready to kill the left even though the left is ready to kill them. Liberals have been getting conservatives fired on a daily basis while suing their businesses out of existence while the conservative loser merely whines about it on Twitter. You may hate the left, but if you wouldn’t dare even punching them in the face because you fear losing your life of comfort, you will lose. If you’re not prepared to kill your enemy while your enemy is busy killing you, you will lose. It’s that simple. Some think that conservatives have to feel a sense of hopelessness to fight back, but by then there will be nothing left worth fighting for.

“Why would a liberal try to kill me because of my opinion? It must be some kind of a mistake!”
You don’t have to be a historian to know that conservatives will continue to lose. Simple take a look back 50, 100, or 500 years to see how much ground they’ve lost, and amplify that by a factor of ten thanks to technology if you want to imagine how much ground they will lose in the next 50, 100, or 500 years. They are such losers that if you see any sort of organized conservative “uprising” in the years to come, it will surely be a carefully managed scheme by the elites to usher in yet another monumental conservative defeat, just like we saw in the last few years with the alt right’s astonishing rise and then disastrous defeat in Charlottesville at the hands of their more capable enemies.

 

[RUTGERS95]

what is needed is for states to have an electoral college.

 

[Smitty192]

This issue aside, Republicans always play checkers while Dems play chess. Then they wonder why they are fighting an uphill battle on literally every issue. Very few of them get it.

There is no 2 party system. It's all theater. It's a soap opera. Scripts, story lines, good guys, bad guys...They're all bought and paid for by the same people.

Politicians play chess. The "Electorate" plays checkers.

 

[pmclaine]

This issue aside, Republicans always play checkers while Dems play chess. Then they wonder why they are fighting an uphill battle on literally every issue. Very few of them get it.

They are both playing chess......just on the same side of the board, against us, and they make or ignore rules as they need to.

 

[232593]

written in 2018. very true and the conclusion was prophetic.

CONSERVATIVES ARE LOSERS​

ROOSH VALIZADEH SEPTEMBER 24, 2018

• CULTURE

79 COMMENTS

Roosh Valizadeh
Daryush "Roosh" Valizadeh created ROK in October 2012. You can visit his blog at RooshV.com or follow him on Twitter and Facebook.

• 
• 

The following article was originally published on Roosh V.
For the world to get to how it is today, with the nearly complete elimination of tradition in favor of a globohomo world where diddling little children is becoming normalized, conservatives have had to lose every meaningful cultural war in the history of man. When someone declares themselves a conservative, they’re in fact stating that they are a loser, someone who is meant to take the fall when the left comes attacking.
Conservatives have lost on every battlefront: free speech, the military, the universities, marriage, nuclear family, child education, the media, the government, Boy Scouts, business, law and justice, Christianity, patriarchy, immigration, the welfare state, and capitalism. The right to bear arms is the only battle they’re not losing in a rout, but I’m confident they will lose that too within a decade’s time. Conservative institutions are being infiltrated and subverted, or have disappeared off the face of the earth, and there is no sign of them ever coming back.

The enemy
Why are conservatives such losers? Because they desire to merely hold the line while their enemy rushes at them full speed. They don’t want to conquer new lands, kill their enemy, or inflict real harm. They want to maintain the status quo while the left froths at the mouth to win, energized with momentum and passion. The left is so dissatisfied at the state of the world because of their deep-seated inner dysfunction that they put their entire being into trying to make it better. They don’t know how to enjoy their lives so they have to attack the lives of others.
Conservatives, on the other hand, have no momentum or passion. They just want to be left alone, which makes them easy pickings for a collective that is hellbent on achieving their nightmare utopia. In the end, conservatives are the Spartans in 300 who have trained their entire lives to lose the battle, even if they are pound-for-pound stronger than their enemy.
Conservatives have also shown to be comically susceptible to leftist ideas when it’s presented as “human rights.” Two decades ago, the vast majority of conservatives would have stood against gay marriage, but a few years of cheesy “love is love” commercials was all it took for them to change their mind. Their motto of “live and let live” is only reasonable to hold if their enemy believed the same. They give the crying baby its bottle and from that milk it gets fat and strong and decides to kill the entire family. Conservatives don’t understand that giving an inch to the left eventually results in absolute defeat. They have to psychotically refuse to give any ground, even if practical logic or fairness is staring them in the face, but we know they won’t do that.

Conservative bird feeding his enemy
Another problem conservatives face is technology, which is not agnostic but rather liberating. It allows man to rely less on traditions, family, social bonds, and religion, all things that the left hates. The more technology you have, the more you can be an atomized unit in a little urbanized box, reliant only on your service job and digital device to keep you alive and somewhat sane while using Uber and Lyft to travel in and out of your self-imposed quarantine zone. Because of technology, the conservatism of today is merely the liberalism of twenty years ago. I challenge you to find a single attractive “conservative” girl who hasn’t tried Tinder or engaged in abundant pre-marital sex. Look at the life of any self-professed conservative and odds are you’ll find a rather cosmopolitan existence that is far removed from nature and rural living.
The biggest reason why conservatives will continue to lose is that they’re still not ready to kill the left even though the left is ready to kill them. Liberals have been getting conservatives fired on a daily basis while suing their businesses out of existence while the conservative loser merely whines about it on Twitter. You may hate the left, but if you wouldn’t dare even punching them in the face because you fear losing your life of comfort, you will lose. If you’re not prepared to kill your enemy while your enemy is busy killing you, you will lose. It’s that simple. Some think that conservatives have to feel a sense of hopelessness to fight back, but by then there will be nothing left worth fighting for.

“Why would a liberal try to kill me because of my opinion? It must be some kind of a mistake!”
You don’t have to be a historian to know that conservatives will continue to lose. Simple take a look back 50, 100, or 500 years to see how much ground they’ve lost, and amplify that by a factor of ten thanks to technology if you want to imagine how much ground they will lose in the next 50, 100, or 500 years. They are such losers that if you see any sort of organized conservative “uprising” in the years to come, it will surely be a carefully managed scheme by the elites to usher in yet another monumental conservative defeat, just like we saw in the last few years with the alt right’s astonishing rise and then disastrous defeat in Charlottesville at the hands of their more capable enemies.

Spot-on

 

[SilentStalkr]

I see everyone here still believes in the system.

 

[TurboTrout]

Nah, dems just take every fucking shot they can, long term, short term, good chance of passing, slim chance, they just go all in

 

[TurboTrout]

I see everyone here still believes in the system.

I believe in the system

And I believe it doesn’t serve mainstreet, but I knew that since I was like a damn teen

 

[SilentStalkr]

I believe in the system

And I believe it doesn’t serve mainstreet, but I knew that since I was like a damn teen

Anyone paying attention with half a brain should have seen that since they were a teen. Haha.