Wanting to start shooting long distance and was looking for a rifle. I like the Sako TRG-42 in 338. What other rifles/calibers do you guys like and or shoot?
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That is what I usually recommend as a good starter rifle. A Sako TRG42 in .338LM. That, or a .408 Chey-Tac.
That is what I usually recommend as a good starter rifle. A Sako TRG42 in .338LM. That, or a .408 Chey-Tac.
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That is a starter gun?
I didn't see it chambered in a 408 Who would make it?
McMillians are nice but I'm not going to spend that.
That is a starter gun?
I didn't see it chambered in a 408 Who would make it?
McMillians are nice but I'm not going to spend that.
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A Barret or Armalite AR50 is also a good starter rifle. At least with a .50 you wont need to upgrade.
A Barret or Armalite AR50 is also a good starter rifle. At least with a .50 you wont need to upgrade.
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Don't get a big magnum as your first rifle. Get a smaller caliber with less recoil and cost for ammo so that you can learn to shoot it and not go broke doing so. A .308 is always a good start.
How much you plan on spending on the rifle?
Don't get a big magnum as your first rifle. Get a smaller caliber with less recoil and cost for ammo so that you can learn to shoot it and not go broke doing so. A .308 is always a good start.
How much you plan on spending on the rifle?
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Thats true, I wouldn't need to upgrade if I got a 50 but isn't a 408 a better all around bullet?
Thats true, I wouldn't need to upgrade if I got a 50 but isn't a 408 a better all around bullet?
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rob01</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Don't get a big magnum as your first rifle. Get a smaller caliber with less recoil and cost for ammo so that you can learn to shoot it and not go broke doing so. A .308 is always a good start.
How much you plan on spending on the rifle? </div></div>
Hey OP, I quoted Rob again, just in case you missed it the first time.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rob01</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Don't get a big magnum as your first rifle. Get a smaller caliber with less recoil and cost for ammo so that you can learn to shoot it and not go broke doing so. A .308 is always a good start.
How much you plan on spending on the rifle? </div></div>
Hey OP, I quoted Rob again, just in case you missed it the first time.
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Get a .308 to begin with after a year or two then get a .338LM but make sure you reload.
Get a .308 to begin with after a year or two then get a .338LM but make sure you reload.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: rth1800</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I am thinking the OP might just be stirring the pot a bit.
RTH </div></div>
Agreed... a starter rifle in Sako? How about try and find a cheap 700 action and shoot that. See if you actually like shooting. Buying an expensive Sako for your first rifle especially in .338 is overkill. If you have the money and want to go for it, but start small and then work up. Shooting doesn't just come to you over night.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: rth1800</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I am thinking the OP might just be stirring the pot a bit.
RTH </div></div>
Agreed... a starter rifle in Sako? How about try and find a cheap 700 action and shoot that. See if you actually like shooting. Buying an expensive Sako for your first rifle especially in .338 is overkill. If you have the money and want to go for it, but start small and then work up. Shooting doesn't just come to you over night.
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I was thinking I would end up spending 3k or so. I have a buddy I get all my guns through so I will end up paying dealer cost.
I was thinking I would end up spending 3k or so. I have a buddy I get all my guns through so I will end up paying dealer cost.
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Ok so spend 750 on a Rem 700P, 1500 on a nice used nightforce or 1800 on a brand new one, some badger rings, base and a harris swivel bipod.
Ok so spend 750 on a Rem 700P, 1500 on a nice used nightforce or 1800 on a brand new one, some badger rings, base and a harris swivel bipod.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bacarrat</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That is what I usually recommend as a good starter rifle. A Sako TRG42 in .338LM. That, or a .408 Chey-Tac. </div></div>
HAHAHAHAHAA.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bacarrat</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That is what I usually recommend as a good starter rifle. A Sako TRG42 in .338LM. That, or a .408 Chey-Tac. </div></div>
HAHAHAHAHAA.
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That's what I was going to get my 9 year old daughter to get here started in long range shooting. Maybe a Savage 10 or Rem. 700 in .223 or .308 makes more since though.
That's what I was going to get my 9 year old daughter to get here started in long range shooting. Maybe a Savage 10 or Rem. 700 in .223 or .308 makes more since though.
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try 700 nitro and try 500 yards so that way you don't cheat youself with 100.
honestly, Rem 700 heavy barreled variant in .308 would be right on the money.
try 700 nitro and try 500 yards so that way you don't cheat youself with 100.
honestly, Rem 700 heavy barreled variant in .308 would be right on the money.
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In all seriousness, I think a TRG-22 would be a perfect starter rifle, as long as it leaves enough money left over for a quality scope and a LOT of ammo. Get a .308 so you can afford to practice, and when the barrel is burned out (10k or so rounds) if you feel limited by the caliber, rebarrel it in a .260. Also- sign up for the SH online training.
I don't believe you "need" to start with a stock Remington 700. If you can afford it, a solid .5 moa rifle (some stock 700's are, some aren't, no way to tell if you don't know how well you can shoot) is worth it in my opinion, because while you are learning it is frustrating to know if the miss is you or the stick. But, if you are on a budget, a 700 with a Super Sniper and the rest on ammo and training is a good way to go.
In all seriousness, I think a TRG-22 would be a perfect starter rifle, as long as it leaves enough money left over for a quality scope and a LOT of ammo. Get a .308 so you can afford to practice, and when the barrel is burned out (10k or so rounds) if you feel limited by the caliber, rebarrel it in a .260. Also- sign up for the SH online training.
I don't believe you "need" to start with a stock Remington 700. If you can afford it, a solid .5 moa rifle (some stock 700's are, some aren't, no way to tell if you don't know how well you can shoot) is worth it in my opinion, because while you are learning it is frustrating to know if the miss is you or the stick. But, if you are on a budget, a 700 with a Super Sniper and the rest on ammo and training is a good way to go.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bacarrat</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That is what I usually recommend as a good starter rifle. A Sako TRG42 in .338LM. That, or a .408 Chey-Tac. </div></div>
i wish we all had the money to start with a .408 haha
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bacarrat</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That is what I usually recommend as a good starter rifle. A Sako TRG42 in .338LM. That, or a .408 Chey-Tac. </div></div>
i wish we all had the money to start with a .408 haha
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If you have to ask who makes Ferrari, you might consider starting with a Ford.
Seriously, a Remington 700 in 308 is easily your best bet. I doubt there are many on here with CheyTac or other oversize magnums that don't spend most of their time shooting 308 or some other reasonable caliber.
John
If you have to ask who makes Ferrari, you might consider starting with a Ford.
Seriously, a Remington 700 in 308 is easily your best bet. I doubt there are many on here with CheyTac or other oversize magnums that don't spend most of their time shooting 308 or some other reasonable caliber.
John
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Constructionking you do realize that most of these people are fucking with you with all the recommendations for Chey Tacs, Barretts 458 Lotts and such? Anyone who knows rifles wouldn't seriously recommend any of those for someone getting into this sport.
If you want a Sako TRG then get the 22 like BM11 recommended in .308 and shoot the shit out of it.
Constructionking you do realize that most of these people are fucking with you with all the recommendations for Chey Tacs, Barretts 458 Lotts and such? Anyone who knows rifles wouldn't seriously recommend any of those for someone getting into this sport.
If you want a Sako TRG then get the 22 like BM11 recommended in .308 and shoot the shit out of it.
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.308....learn it, shoot the hell out of it and then decide if you want to move beyond that. Pretty hard to beat good trigger time and a .308 will give you a lot of that..
.308....learn it, shoot the hell out of it and then decide if you want to move beyond that. Pretty hard to beat good trigger time and a .308 will give you a lot of that..
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Rob01,
The way I see it, everyone has a opinion and they are all entitled to it.
I figure, the guys making the smart ass remarks about the magnums are just pissed because they want a Chey-Tec, they just can't afford it.
Rob01,
The way I see it, everyone has a opinion and they are all entitled to it.
I figure, the guys making the smart ass remarks about the magnums are just pissed because they want a Chey-Tec, they just can't afford it.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: constructionking</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Rob01,
The way I see it, everyone has a opinion and they are all entitled to it.
I figure, the guys making the smart ass remarks about the magnums are just pissed because they want a Chey-Tec, they just can't afford it. </div></div>
Get a "Chey-Tec" and get the biggest one you can find. Then go sit on the 100 yard line punching holes and feeling cool. Then post pics all over the net and tell peopl how bad ass you are...
Or you could take the advice of the shooters who are trying to help you. Who have more experience then you could ever dream of having.
But me I say get whatever you want, because a year from now when you are pissed that you shoot like shit, you will sell your rifle.... and someone here who knows how to drive it will buy for a lot less then what you paid for it. You lose sir.
Good day.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: constructionking</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Rob01,
The way I see it, everyone has a opinion and they are all entitled to it.
I figure, the guys making the smart ass remarks about the magnums are just pissed because they want a Chey-Tec, they just can't afford it. </div></div>
Get a "Chey-Tec" and get the biggest one you can find. Then go sit on the 100 yard line punching holes and feeling cool. Then post pics all over the net and tell peopl how bad ass you are...
Or you could take the advice of the shooters who are trying to help you. Who have more experience then you could ever dream of having.
But me I say get whatever you want, because a year from now when you are pissed that you shoot like shit, you will sell your rifle.... and someone here who knows how to drive it will buy for a lot less then what you paid for it. You lose sir.
Good day.
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Rob01,
I know most guys are screwing with me...I get that. There is alot of knowledge and experience here, that is why I chose to ask you gentlemen. It is just unfortunate that some of the ones with that true knowledge choice to make jokes.
Rob01,
I know most guys are screwing with me...I get that. There is alot of knowledge and experience here, that is why I chose to ask you gentlemen. It is just unfortunate that some of the ones with that true knowledge choice to make jokes.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: constructionking</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Rob01,
The way I see it, everyone has a opinion and they are all entitled to it.
I figure, the guys making the smart ass remarks about the magnums are just pissed because they want a Chey-Tec, they just can't afford it. </div></div>
hay man I have just spent about $4K AU building a 22lr if I wanted a cheytac I would own one ... still waiting on it to be finished will have pics up then
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: constructionking</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Rob01,
The way I see it, everyone has a opinion and they are all entitled to it.
I figure, the guys making the smart ass remarks about the magnums are just pissed because they want a Chey-Tec, they just can't afford it. </div></div>
hay man I have just spent about $4K AU building a 22lr if I wanted a cheytac I would own one ... still waiting on it to be finished will have pics up then
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AXEMAN,
I didn't start this shit storm! I do want to say, I appreciate all the legitimate advise from Rob01,bm11,PGS, and TimResin!
AXEMAN,
I didn't start this shit storm! I do want to say, I appreciate all the legitimate advise from Rob01,bm11,PGS, and TimResin!
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no offense dbatemen,
Some guys can swing a 5 or 6 or 7 or whatever thousand dollar rifle. More power to them, but they are usually not the ones making stupid comments when some ask a legitimate question either.
no offense dbatemen,
Some guys can swing a 5 or 6 or 7 or whatever thousand dollar rifle. More power to them, but they are usually not the ones making stupid comments when some ask a legitimate question either.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: constructionking</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Rob01,
I know most guys are screwing with me...I get that. There is alot of knowledge and experience here, that is why I chose to ask you gentlemen. It is just unfortunate that some of the ones with that true knowledge choice to make jokes. </div></div>
ok so I'm not the most knowledgeable person but if you are just starting out
I would suggest a 223 or a 308 on a rem 700 I my self am looking at the 223 sps tactical it seems to be very reasonable priced a pretty accurate from every thing I have been hearing
so buy a good rifle Rem , Savage and upgrade as you go
put the best glass you can afford
shoot the shit out of it and have fun doing it
also check out the for sale section there are some good things for sale in there
. Dave
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: constructionking</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Rob01,
I know most guys are screwing with me...I get that. There is alot of knowledge and experience here, that is why I chose to ask you gentlemen. It is just unfortunate that some of the ones with that true knowledge choice to make jokes. </div></div>
ok so I'm not the most knowledgeable person but if you are just starting out
I would suggest a 223 or a 308 on a rem 700 I my self am looking at the 223 sps tactical it seems to be very reasonable priced a pretty accurate from every thing I have been hearing
so buy a good rifle Rem , Savage and upgrade as you go
put the best glass you can afford
shoot the shit out of it and have fun doing it
also check out the for sale section there are some good things for sale in there
. Dave
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: constructionking</div><div class="ubbcode-body">no offense dbatemen,
Some guys can swing a 5 or 6 or 7 or whatever thousand dollar rifle. More power to them, but they are usually not the ones making stupid comments when some ask a legitimate question either. </div></div>
so you posted this wile I was typing my legitimate answer to your question
the reason you got the response that you did is because you said your looking at a 338 for your first long range rifle
do not buy a 338 it is to much gun for a new shooter and cost alot to feed
the guys that have them spend far more time shooting other smaller rounds
because of the cost
stick with 223 or 308 till you learn how to drive the thing then go bigger if you still want to
hope this help's
. Dave
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: constructionking</div><div class="ubbcode-body">no offense dbatemen,
Some guys can swing a 5 or 6 or 7 or whatever thousand dollar rifle. More power to them, but they are usually not the ones making stupid comments when some ask a legitimate question either. </div></div>
so you posted this wile I was typing my legitimate answer to your question
the reason you got the response that you did is because you said your looking at a 338 for your first long range rifle
do not buy a 338 it is to much gun for a new shooter and cost alot to feed
the guys that have them spend far more time shooting other smaller rounds
because of the cost
stick with 223 or 308 till you learn how to drive the thing then go bigger if you still want to
hope this help's
. Dave
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thanks dbateman!!
As far as your 223 sps tactical, I had something very close to it and really enjoyed it.
thanks dbateman!!
As far as your 223 sps tactical, I had something very close to it and really enjoyed it.
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Constructionking,
I made the mistake of buying a 300 WM as my first bolt action and regretted (actually sold it) later. I shot with great expectations only to be disappointed
in myself. The rifle was capable of shooting 1/2" groups all day long-I was not.
I developed a pretty bad flinch which took a while to lose. I was in the same place you are in a year ago and should have gone with a lesser caliber from the get go.
I have to agree with all who say go with the 308-I did and am much happier now. Plus with the bigger magnums you can't physically shoot that many rounds in a session-It will just frustrate and beat you up. 308 is, by comparison, cheaper to shoot and shooting is what you need to be doing a lot of. Just my thoughts....
Constructionking,
I made the mistake of buying a 300 WM as my first bolt action and regretted (actually sold it) later. I shot with great expectations only to be disappointed
in myself. The rifle was capable of shooting 1/2" groups all day long-I was not.
I developed a pretty bad flinch which took a while to lose. I was in the same place you are in a year ago and should have gone with a lesser caliber from the get go.
I have to agree with all who say go with the 308-I did and am much happier now. Plus with the bigger magnums you can't physically shoot that many rounds in a session-It will just frustrate and beat you up. 308 is, by comparison, cheaper to shoot and shooting is what you need to be doing a lot of. Just my thoughts....
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This is the cheapest entertainment on the planet,,,and there is also alot of wisdom here...Just have to be able to tell the difference.
This is the cheapest entertainment on the planet,,,and there is also alot of wisdom here...Just have to be able to tell the difference.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: wildcatsfan11</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I was thinking more along the lines of an Anzio 20mm as a good starter </div></div>
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wild cats got you on the right track. but dont settle for the 20mm get the 50/20 it shoots a little flatter, but i will warn you its a little harder on barrels.
this oughta get you headed in right direction
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: wildcatsfan11</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I was thinking more along the lines of an Anzio 20mm as a good starter </div></div>
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wild cats got you on the right track. but dont settle for the 20mm get the 50/20 it shoots a little flatter, but i will warn you its a little harder on barrels.
this oughta get you headed in right direction
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its a little hard on the ar 500 too. prob get some of them fellers up there in ky to hook you up on one of these
its a little hard on the ar 500 too. prob get some of them fellers up there in ky to hook you up on one of these
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For what it's worth, after I suggested a Rem 308, constructionking sent a note saying Rem 700 would only be good for "someone that doesn't know which end of the stick to look down" and he had "several 700s in several calibers".
He also indicated "From what I have seen...308 is a far cry from being able to knock something down at 500-700 yds. I may be way off but I know my 300 ultra mag won't do it."
So if he has a 300 ultra mag and several Remington 700s already it's hard to know what to think without knowing what he doesn't like about his current arsenal...
John
For what it's worth, after I suggested a Rem 308, constructionking sent a note saying Rem 700 would only be good for "someone that doesn't know which end of the stick to look down" and he had "several 700s in several calibers".
He also indicated "From what I have seen...308 is a far cry from being able to knock something down at 500-700 yds. I may be way off but I know my 300 ultra mag won't do it."
So if he has a 300 ultra mag and several Remington 700s already it's hard to know what to think without knowing what he doesn't like about his current arsenal...
John
