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When other black athletes were raising black gloved fists in protest at the '68 Olympics.

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He'll be remembered for being a great fighter that destroyed the best fighters of the era except for Ali and he beat Ali outside the ring in popularity and class.
And is likely the reason Ali ended up with Parkinson's from the beating he gave him when Ali did the 'rope-a-dope'
 
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My old man met George when pops was a kid in Oakland IIRC. He was training down the street from where my grandpa was working. Said his fist was bigger than pops' head but that he was a nice guy. Always seemed like an admirable guy.
 
He'll be remembered for being a great fighter that destroyed the best fighters of the era except for Ali and he beat Ali outside the ring in popularity and class.

In the late ‘80 we all followed Mike Tyson and the “dream fight” was Mike Tyson vs George Foreman. Allegedly Tyson wanted nothing to do with fighting Foreman. And the fight never happened because of Tyson’s jail stint.

Lots of arguments back in the day about who would win.

In the end, Tyson was just little more than a thug and Foreman was a gentleman to the end. A soft spoken Christian patriot while Tyson went off the deep end.

I still say he will be remembered more for his grills… because two generations know him for nothing else! Just like Joe Namath is now known for Medicare supplement ads and pantyhose commercials. Not to detract from his legacy in the ring. But he was a boxer for 8 years (with a decade-long hiatus). And an entrepreneur for 49 years…

And Foreman did it with class!

Sirhr
 
In the late ‘80 we all followed Mike Tyson and the “dream fight” was Mike Tyson vs George Foreman. Allegedly Tyson wanted nothing to do with fighting Foreman. And the fight never happened because of Tyson’s jail stint.

Lots of arguments back in the day about who would win.

In the end, Tyson was just little more than a thug and Foreman was a gentleman to the end. A soft spoken Christian patriot while Tyson went off the deep end.

I still say he will be remembered more for his grills… because two generations know him for nothing else! Just like Joe Namath is now known for Medicare supplement ads and pantyhose commercials. Not to detract from his legacy in the ring. But he was a boxer for 8 years (with a decade-long hiatus). And an entrepreneur for 49 years…

And Foreman did it with class!

Sirhr

Definitely a Tyson fan here. However, I read that when Holyfield was talking about who hit him the hardest, it wasn't Tyson, but rather Foreman. I highly recommend checking out the Foreman/Holyfield fight from the 90s sometime if you never seen it.
 
I still say he will be remembered more for his grills… because two generations know him for nothing else! Just like Joe Namath is now known for Medicare supplement ads and pantyhose commercials. Not to detract from his legacy in the ring. But he was a boxer for 8 years (with a decade-long hiatus). And an entrepreneur for 49 years…

Well... actually... I do remember Joe Namath at the NY Jets, growing up in NJ at the time. I recall his SuperBowl win that he predicted, and the video footage of him jogging off the field shaking his "#1" finger in the air. And yeah, not to detract from George. I don't remember in full his Olympic career (I do recall him waving the US Flag), but I recall his 1st victory over Joe Frazier. IIRC, that was the one with Howard Cosell ("DOWN GOES FRAZIER.... DOWN GOES FRAZIER.... DOWN GOES FRAZIER")!



And Foreman did it with class!

Yes, he did.
 
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Definitely a Tyson fan here. However, I read that when Holyfield was talking about who hit him the hardest, it wasn't Tyson, but rather Foreman. I highly recommend checking out the Foreman/Holyfield fight from the 90s sometime if you never seen it.

I watched it live (on pay per view!) with a bunch of friends in NC. I think it was the last fight I watched except by accident….

Holyfield was the one guy who fought both, IIRC.

Even as a Tyson fan (never watched much boxing before or after Mike Tyson) I was pretty sure Foreman would stomp him. Only reason I watched the Foreman “out of retirement”’rise was waiting for him to rise to where there had to be a Foreman/Tyson bout.

Thats why it was the dream fight that never was!!

Part of the reason I lost interest in boxing was Tyson’s descent into full-retard mode. Don King didn’t help either. That guy totally fucked over boxing.

Sirhr
 
Well... actually... I do remember Joe Namath at the NY Jets, growing up in NJ at the time. I recall his SuperBowl win that he predicted, and the video footage of him jogging off the field shaking his "#1" finger in the air. And yeah, not to detract from George. I don't remember in full his Olympic career (I do recall him waving the US Flag), but I recall his 1st victory over Joe Frazier.

So do I! But we are both officially old!

And not trying to detract from George Foreman… just that for almost 30 years, he has been the grandfatherly figure with the apron teaching kids how to make sliders and grilled cheese at home!!! Not a monster in the ring (and I say monster in a good way…. Tyson was a monster in a bad way. See above!)

Cheers

Sirhr
 
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In the late ‘80 we all followed Mike Tyson and the “dream fight” was Mike Tyson vs George Foreman. Allegedly Tyson wanted nothing to do with fighting Foreman. And the fight never happened because of Tyson’s jail stint.

Lots of arguments back in the day about who would win.

In the end, Tyson was just little more than a thug and Foreman was a gentleman to the end. A soft spoken Christian patriot while Tyson went off the deep end.

I still say he will be remembered more for his grills… because two generations know him for nothing else! Just like Joe Namath is now known for Medicare supplement ads and pantyhose commercials. Not to detract from his legacy in the ring. But he was a boxer for 8 years (with a decade-long hiatus). And an entrepreneur for 49 years…

And Foreman did it with class!

Sirhr
Tyson would have crushed him. George was a great boxer, but not in Tyson's league when he was with Gus and in his prime. He mowed down all of the "greats" without breaking a sweat.

They were different people, and George was class and humility personified. Tyson was not.
 
I watched it live (on pay per view!) with a bunch of friends in NC. I think it was the last fight I watched except by accident….

Holyfield was the one guy who fought both, IIRC.

Even as a Tyson fan (never watched much boxing before or after Mike Tyson) I was pretty sure Foreman would stomp him. Only reason I watched the Foreman “out of retirement”’rise was waiting for him to rise to where there had to be a Foreman/Tyson bout.

Thats why it was the dream fight that never was!!

Part of the reason I lost interest in boxing was Tyson’s descent into full-retard mode. Don King didn’t help either. That guy totally fucked over boxing.

Sirhr

Tyson's #1 trait was his ability to intimidate his opponent. I think he might have been able to intimidate Ali to some extent, but I don't believe he'd be able to intimidate Foreman at all. I know there's many different opinions has to how Tyson suffered his first loss, but I firmly believe the reason for his loss was Buster Douglas had just lost his mom and dedicated the fight to her and he never once was intimidated by Tyson all throughout the fight.

And fuck Don King! I'm surprised he's still alive and in one piece considering all the people he stole from. Didn't he testify against John Gotti at one point or am I thinking of someone else?
 
Tyson would have crushed him. George was a great boxer, but not in Tyson's league when he was with Gus and in his prime. He mowed down all of the "greats" without breaking a sweat.

They were different people, and George was class and humility personified. Tyson was not.

By the time Foreman “came back” Tyson was not in his prime either. Probably why there was no fight… their “tracks” never coincided. If a 1990’s fight had happened, I’d give the edge to Foreman. But Tyson was past his prime by then.

Ah the joys of revisionist history!

Sirhr
 
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I remeber watching a fight when i was little and Foreman punch another boxer and his mouth piece flew out into the crowd. What a way to make living. I would rather sell grills too. 🤣🤣
 
So do I! But we are both officially old!

And not trying to detract from George Foreman… just that for almost 30 years, he has been the grandfatherly figure with the apron teaching kids how to make sliders and grilled cheese at home!!! Not a monster in the ring (and I say monster in a good way…. Tyson was a monster in a bad way. See above!)

Cheers

Sirhr

Yeah, I would have posted a video showing Namath's Superbowl III victory (with the finger) but, sadly, the NFL has blocked any embedding of that footage. :mad: :poop:
 
And is likely the reason Ali ended up with Parkinson's from the beating he gave him when Ali did the 'rope-a-dope'
I think Joe Frazier contributed the most to that. Years later when Smokin' Joe heard Ali speak he said "You hear that? I did that." Sparring with Larry Holmes didn't help.

Ali's body took most of the beating in the Foreman fight and he did confess afterwards he p*ssed blood for a month after the fight. I think Norton landed more head shots than Foreman did.
 
Definitely a Tyson fan here. However, I read that when Holyfield was talking about who hit him the hardest, it wasn't Tyson, but rather Foreman. I highly recommend checking out the Foreman/Holyfield fight from the 90s sometime if you never seen it.
One fighter went back to his corner and asked "Do I still have my teeth?" after being hit with a Foreman right. It was a serious question.

Another one said after being hit with a Foreman jab, he went back to his stool and said the whole side of his face felt like it had been numbed by Novacane.
 
Tyson would have crushed him. George was a great boxer, but not in Tyson's league when he was with Gus and in his prime. He mowed down all of the "greats" without breaking a sweat.

They were different people, and George was class and humility personified. Tyson was not.
Both in their prime, early 20's, I believe Foreman would have handled Tyson just like he did Frazier, pushing him back at arms length and his own range, turning and postioning him where he wanted him before dropping a right hand bomb on him.

If Tyson wouldn't have come over the top with rights and lefts like he did with Trevor Berbick, he would have fallen apart after being caught by the first solid Foreman punch.
 
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I remeber watching a fight when i was little and Foreman punch another boxer and his mouth piece flew out into the crowd. What a way to make living. I would rather sell grills too. 🤣🤣
Ali sent Frazier's mouthpice out into the crown in their 3rd fight. Yeah, you realize how many brain cells are getting destroyed.
 
The "Thrilla in Manilla," right? I know the "Rumble in the Jungle" (Zaire) was before that but I don't recall Ali's opponent there. Unless it was the Joe Frazier rematch.
Manilla: Joe Frazier v M. Ali
Rumbel in Jungle: Ali vs Forman

All I will say is I think Tyson deserved better competition like Ali/Frazier/Foreman. That Trio was the golden age of boxing.
We have this "nice" image of George Foreman....dude was a beast back in the day!

RIP Big Fella.
 
Little known fact on George Foreman, he raises and shows German Shepherd Dogs. George gave one of the local conservative radio host in Houston a GSD puppy.

 
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Hard to believe that the greatest fighter of his time could in the end become better known for the love he had for his fellow man, and the love his fellow man returned to him.

His salvation certain we need not morn him but we may celebrate his life.
My thoughts exactly, well said

I watched the comeback fight when he won the championship against Moorer at 46…amazing

 
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Little known fact on George Foreman, he raises and shows German Shepherd Dogs. George gave one of the local conservative radio host in Houston a GSD puppy.

damn he had the best taste in dogs for sure. took Americans decades to produce comparable working (Schutzhund type) dogs. another loss for the country.
 
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Little known fact on George Foreman, he raises and shows German Shepherd Dogs. George gave one of the local conservative radio host in Houston a GSD puppy.

I did not know that. I'm not surprised. Class breed.
 
I always thought his grill was just a gimmick type thing like something made by Ronco ,but judging by the guys on here that say they use it and like it , I stand corrected. One of the things I liked about George was that he didn't hesitate to tell people that he was just a street thug going up in Houston and that boxing saved him from a life of crime ,takes a good man to admit that.
 
I always thought his grill was just a gimmick type thing like something made by Ronco ,but judging by the guys on here that say they use it and like it , I stand corrected. One of the things I liked about George was that he didn't hesitate to tell people that he was just a street thug going up in Houston and that boxing saved him from a life of crime ,takes a good man to admit that.
George Foreman Grills are great. Along with hamburgers, I grill other stuff on there like onion and It makes great toast, better amd faster than a toaster.
 
His grills were well made and actually work, the non stick is very non stick and durable. Shockingly so.

And I'm very careful about how I clean mine after regular use to ensure I keep that "non stick" coating in tact. I've seen examples of his grills where the coating has worn off after a ton of use and cleaning. I find that wiping the surfaces carefully with a dry paper towel while it's still hot helps take off most of the gunk that would stick on the surface once cooled. After which, I can wash with dish soap and a simple dish rag or (at most) a soft brush... never a scowering pad. That will take the coating off, quickly.

I will grill a pair of 80-20 chucks tonight in honor of George! After which, I will top with mozzarella and pizza sauce and nuke for about 50 sec and make "pizza burgers" as a result.
 
Hard to believe that the greatest fighter of his time could in the end become better known for the love he had for his fellow man, and the love his fellow man returned to him.

His salvation certain we need not morn him but we may celebrate his life.
He accepted the offer from the government, not for a handout, but to turn his life around and better himself. He said goodbye to the 5th Ward of Houston and stepped on a bus for the Gary Job Corps in San Marcus, TX. There he started boxing and to repay the country, he won the U.S. the Gold Metal in the '68 Olympics.

When he lost the heavyweight title he didn't go back to the streets, to end up in prison like some de-throned fighters do, he took up the ministry and opened a gym to help other disadvantaged kids, of all colors. When his own money ran out, the one time Heavtweight Champ of the World went door to door trying to raise money to keep his gym open.

As a selfless man and man of God, I consider him 'the greatest boxer of all time.'
 
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He accepted the offer from the government, not for a handout, but to turn his life around and better himself. He said goodbye to the 5th Ward of Houston and stepped on a bus for the Gary Job Corps in San Marcus, TX. There he started boxing and to repay the country, he won the U.S. the Gold Metal in the '68 Olympics.

When he lost the heavyweight title, he didn't go back to the streets, to end up in prison, like some de-throned fighters do, he took up the ministry and opened a gym to help other disadvantaged kids, of all colors. When his own money ran out, the one time Heavtweight Champ of the World went door to door trying to raise money to keep his gym open.

As a selfless man and man of God, I consider him 'the greatest boxer of all time.'

His deal on the George Foreman Grill was a very astute business move. He got 40 percent share in the company profits and over the life of the product made $200 million! $40 million in the biggest sales year. Over 100 million grills sold.

Far, far more than he ever made from boxing.

That is living the American dream!!!

Sirhr
 
If Foreman vs. Ali were fought in the original boxing 'ring', a marked off circle with no ropes to lean and rest on and no place to hide, just continuous fighting, I believe Foreman would have won.