Ruger RXM - Magpul & Ruger make a Glock 19 clone

[Charmingmander]

Glock 19 Gen 3 compatible. Uses a chassis system so you can switch grips which are made by Magpul. Definitely going to pick one up. Especially at that price.

Ruger RXM

Magpul Grips



I was waiting for Magpul to do something like this for Glocks.

 

[Cascade Hemi]

$400 street price available today.

 

[stanley_white]

What problem does this solve?

-Stan

 

[RFutch]

Trigger sucks, just like a stock glock. Grip feels awesome. Sights and mag release are good.

I just wonder can this thing take other triggers in the FCU or are you stuck with what they give you?

 

[dms416]

What problem does this solve?

-Stan

At first glance and in theory:
- No plate system but allows direct mount of a variety of red dots
- FCU so no additional 4473 bullshit in wanting to go from G19 to G45 to G17 to G49 and then some in one gun
- A Gen 3 Glock clone for less than Blue Label pricing without all the blue label hassle.

...maybe grip/grip angle for those that don't like/want traditional Glock....still waiting on confirmation

Personally, makes a compelling case for a cheap, usable gun that I don't have to give a shit about if it's plucked out of my glove box or lost by TSA.

 

[higginsworksforme]

It's not fair for the Ruger employee who dreamt this up to get the same bonus as the one who brought out the Mini-14 in 300 blk.

 

[dms416]

It's not fair for the Ruger employee who dreamt this up to get the same bonus as the one who brought out the Mini-14 in 300 blk.

That new 300bo with the short fat barrel in the folder stock is fuckin sick. Not $1800 but has me wantin’ to get some A-team on

 

[higginsworksforme]

That new 300bo with the short fat barrel in the folder stock is fuckin sick. Not $1800 but has me wantin’ to get some A-team on

The attackcopter blog post noted that the street price will be much less, but we shall see. That Samson stock is available for the 10/22 and I was looking at integrally suppressed barrels.

 

[stanley_white]

At first glance and in theory:
- No plate system but allows direct mount of a variety of red dots
- FCU so no additional 4473 bullshit in wanting to go from G19 to G45 to G17 to G49 and then some in one gun
- A Gen 3 Glock clone for less than Blue Label pricing without all the blue label hassle.

...maybe grip/grip angle for those that don't like/want traditional Glock....still waiting on confirmation

Personally, makes a compelling case for a cheap, usable gun that I don't have to give a shit about if it's plucked out of my glove box or lost by TSA.

Thank you.

-Stan

 

[hlee]

It's not fair for the Ruger employee who dreamt this up to get the same bonus as the one who brought out the Mini-14 in 300 blk.

Let’s assess the precision before we start with the crazy talk…

 

[higginsworksforme]

Let’s assess the precision before we start with the crazy talk…

I don't think anyone expects the mini to be precise.

 

[dms416]

Thank you.

-Stan

It could also be a flaming turd too... there's some minor things that give me pause. Essentially it's a Gen 3 Glock copy with an FCU and a few other theoretically good ideas for $400.

 

[Charmingmander]

My LGS confirmed $429 once they can get them in.

 

[stanley_white]

It could also be a flaming turd too... there's some minor things that give me pause. Essentially it's a Gen 3 Glock copy with an FCU and a few other theoretically good ideas for $400.

I agree.

I asked because none of the features it has are on my list of things I desire.

Now, if the lower was ambidextrous, or if the lower allowed me to switch between double stack and single stack magazines, or if it was made in God’s Caliber of 45 ACP, well I would be inching towards “Add to Cart.”

-Stan

 

[atomic41]

...maybe grip/grip angle for those that don't like/want traditional Glock....still waiting on confirmation

I saw one review that said it is 17 degree, same as a 1911. That is the one feature that I desire. I've been wishing Glock would fix their retarded grip angle forever.

 

[hlee]

or if the lower allowed me to switch between double stack and single stack magazines,

I’ve always wanted a pistol that would allow me to have fewer bullets. Said no one. Ever…

 

[stanley_white]

I’ve always wanted a pistol that would allow me to have fewer bullets. Said no one. Ever…

If the pistol design is neato because it’s firing system can be easily removed and swapped between lowers, it would be nice if I, as a full grown male, could use it with a full size lower, and then I could swap the firing system to a different lower with a single stack magazine, so smaller handed family members could shoot it comfortably too.

-Stan

 

[hlee]

If the pistol design is neato because it’s firing system can be easily removed and swapped between lowers, it would be nice if I, as a full grown male, could use it with a full size lower, and then I could swap the firing system to a different lower with a single stack magazine, so smaller handed family members could shoot it comfortably too.

-Stan

Kinda like moving an AR trigger from a lower with an A2 fixed stock, to a lower with a collapsible stock.

 

[stanley_white]

Kinda like moving an AR trigger from a lower with an A2 fixed stock, to a lower with a collapsible stock.

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Luckily, you don’t have to get it.

-Stan

 

[Clob McStrunk]

Well, that's just plain dumb.

 

[ut755ln]

At first glance and in theory:
- No plate system but allows direct mount of a variety of red dots
- FCU so no additional 4473 bullshit in wanting to go from G19 to G45 to G17 to G49 and then some in one gun
- A Gen 3 Glock clone for less than Blue Label pricing without all the blue label hassle.

...maybe grip/grip angle for those that don't like/want traditional Glock....still waiting on confirmation

Personally, makes a compelling case for a cheap, usable gun that I don't have to give a shit about if it's plucked out of my glove box or lost by TSA.

It is not a Glock clone, it is an unproven pistol of unknown quality and reliability.

 

[Ty21]

So it’s a sig p320…but made by ruger?

 

[Cascade Hemi]

So it’s a sig p320…but made by ruger?

It uses Glock triggers so it won't go off in your holster.

 

[TheOE800]

So a down market Zev OZ9?

 

[Ty21]

Sig doesn’t go off in ur pants…unless you pull the trigger…but I guess you believe everything you read on the internet

 

[dms416]

It is not a Glock clone, it is an unproven pistol of unknown quality and reliability.

It can be both. But look at the schematics for the gun. Its operation is a copy of the Gen 3 Glock and accepts some Glock parts.

 

[Charmingmander]

Sig doesn’t go off in ur pants…unless you pull the trigger…but I guess you believe everything you read on the internet

It's been demonstrated repeatedly that the gun is unsafe. It wasn't even safe when SIG started shipping them. And the design is retarded because they just adapted the P250 instead of a ground up design made to be striker fired.

Defending SIG at this point is moronic.

 

[ut755ln]

So a down market Zev OZ9?

Now that I can see how it is built and where there is crossover, I would say a better version of the PSA Dagger (probably).

 

[Conqueror]

Sig doesn’t go off in ur pants…unless you pull the trigger…but I guess you believe everything you read on the internet

Yeah I’m sure Sig did the “voluntary upgrade program” (don’t call it a recall!) just because of some incorrect internet rumors.

 

[Kamerad]

A co-worker told me about this pistol yesterday, and I think it looks great. I’d like to get my hands on one. My gun budget was HK, Steyr and Seekins. With a young and growing family, it’s now Glock and Ruger, so yeah I’m interested!

 

[Charmingmander]

Yeah I’m sure Sig did the “voluntary upgrade program” (don’t call it a recall!) just because of some incorrect internet rumors.

Handing out settlements lately too.

 

[powdahound76]

I saw one review that said it is 17 degree, same as a 1911. That is the one feature that I desire. I've been wishing Glock would fix their retarded grip angle forever.

There is a point to that grip angle….

It isnt to appease people who are too lazy to put in the work and learn to shoot a pistol because “it isnt easy” the first time.


Channeling my inner 308Pirate
How did I do?
I should probably swear more and call you dumb to get full points.


Now me being me.
The Glock grip is the way it is for a reason.
Not all like it, or work to overcome the slightly odd initial feel.
Now I shoot and carry a g19 and it is second nature.

 

[hlee]

Channeling my inner 308Pirate
How did I do?
I should probably swear more and call you dumb to get full points.

I think it is supposed to start with “tell me you don’t know how to shoot a pistol without telling me you don’t know how to shoot a pistol.”

 

[Cascade Hemi]

So a down market Zev OZ9?

More or less but with a properly constructed marketing campaign, production schedule, and logistics.

Ruger pulled of a perfect launch. It's a luke warm me-too product but Ruger corporate launched their marketing followed 12 hours later with the embargo lift and landed inventory in most retailers. There's no cooling off period for consumers, end user reviews are appearing within 24 hours of the influencer reviews.

Regardless of what you think of the product, Ruger really paid attention to MagPul's consultants. As long as there aren't massive quality issues, this will probably be fairly successful due to the launch.

Chef's Kiss!

 

[samadisoulcrusher]

More or less but with a properly constructed marketing campaign, production schedule, and logistics.

Ruger pulled of a perfect launch. It's a luke warm me-too product but Ruger corporate launched their marketing followed 12 hours later with the embargo lift and landed inventory in most retailers. There's no cooling off period for consumers, end user reviews are appearing within 24 hours of the influencer reviews.

Regardless of what you think of the product, Ruger really paid attention to MagPul's consultants. As long as there aren't massive quality issues, this will probably be fairly successful due to the launch.

Chef's Kiss!

Agree. They really did nail the full court press! I see this gun on multiple social media platforms'!

 

[jpp3g]

I understand sticking to gen 3 parts for everything except the magazine release. Seems silly to make a grip from the ground up that doesn't have a reversible magazine release. Oh well, they'll still sell a ton of them.

 

[gigamortis]

The Glock grip angle reportedly came about because Gaston started designing a pistol with his starting point based on the mechanics of the human hand grip. He wasn't a sport shooter at all to start with, and didn't let existing pistol designs cloud his vision too much.

If you let your wrist cam down enough for a level sight picture on a full size Glock, you will find that most average folk's wrists seem to have a range of motion limit around the 19 degree mark. This wrist down angle is a repeatable stopping point reference for a natural point of aim with the Glock platform. The fire control design of a Glock is simpler than anything else before it as well.

Sure, Glock triggers are mass produced crunch and tick crap right out of the box. Smooth off all those punch press burrs and edge tears off of any moving part that interfaces with another and you have a decent self defense trigger pull.

 

[ut755ln]

I think it’s funny that the internet named it the Gluger

 

[stanley_white]

Do me a favor, go to the Ruger website and write them to say you want an RXM in 45 ACP that takes single stack 1911 magazines.

There ain't no Glock 21 single stack so I gotta ask for your help with a write-in campaign to Ruger.

And yes, even if you wouldn't buy it, you can still write in, because like me and one other weirdo somewhere want this product and we need your help.



-Stan

 

[Charmingmander]

I picked one up. Haven't put any rounds through it yet (need to get a dot to throw on and some more Glock 19 mags).

Grip feels alright. Not great not terrible. Actually hoping they release a 17 sized grip soon.

 

[JoshPutman]

Oh, come on, you pussies! Tag him in and get your grade from the man himself.

@308pirate

 

[vanrichten]

I picked one up. Haven't put any rounds through it yet (need to get a dot to throw on and some more Glock 19 mags).

Grip feels alright. Not great not terrible. Actually hoping they release a 17 sized grip soon.

I got one, put a spare RMR I had on the workbench on it. Shoots well enough. Talked to the folks at Magpul and they said you could actually drop in a Glock 3rd gen barrel, so I'll probably end up doing that at some point to try it out with a can. It's decent for what it is, at that price point it's hard to beat. I also hope they release a full-size 17 grip at some point. Right now mine is wearing the RMR and a modlite, because shouldn't the accessories each cost more than the pistol?

 

[308pirate]

The Glock grip angle reportedly came about because Gaston started designing a pistol with his starting point based on the mechanics of the human hand grip. He wasn't a sport shooter at all to start with, and didn't let existing pistol designs cloud his vision too much.

If you let your wrist cam down enough for a level sight picture on a full size Glock, you will find that most average folk's wrists seem to have a range of motion limit around the 19 degree mark. This wrist down angle is a repeatable stopping point reference for a natural point of aim with the Glock platform. The fire control design of a Glock is simpler than anything else before it as well.

Sure, Glock triggers are mass produced crunch and tick crap right out of the box. Smooth off all those punch press burrs and edge tears off of any moving part that interfaces with another and you have a decent self defense trigger pull.

The Glock grip design is a feature, not a bug.

1911s are dumb. 2011s are 2X dumb.

 

[DairyDictator]

The Glock grip design is a feature, not a bug.

1911s are dumb. 2011s are 2X dumb.

You're allowed to have an opinion... Even if it's fucking wrong

 

[Charmingmander]

The Glock grip design is a feature, not a bug.

1911s are dumb. 2011s are 2X dumb.

Personally I've shot all the most common semi auto 9mms and I've never had a grip issue with any of them, including Glock. I never had a problem with the Glock grip. I don't understand where all the chatter about it comes from. I can shoot a Glock fine. A 1911 fine. A SIG P226 fine etc.

Put a red dot on any of them and it's like cheating. Why spend a ton of money when you can get a Glock or decent clone for $350-$600 and slap a red dot on it.

 

[308pirate]

You're allowed to have an opinion... Even if it's fucking wrong

Are you butthurt because someone doesn't like your expensive pet guns?

 

[DairyDictator]

Are you butthurt because someone doesn't like your expensive pet guns?

Negative. If you're trying to tell me that the Glock grip angle is where NPA is for correct handgun grip on an average person, I'm not buying it. Train with it and you'll get used to it, sure. I can also train to move my head around in my truck to get the correct view in my rearview, or I can move the mirror to the correct position.

 

[ut755ln]

Negative. If you're trying to tell me that the Glock grip angle is where NPA is for correct handgun grip on an average person, I'm not buying it. Train with it and you'll get used to it, sure. I can also train to move my head around in my truck to get the correct view in my rearview, or I can move the mirror to the correct position.

So a couple of things, I am guessing NPA to you mean natural point of aim? The grip angle of the pistol isn't really part of that (at least my understanding). Natural point of aim can be thought of as X and Y axis so if you stand square and centered to a target your npa should be there. If everything is a little left, you are probably pointed a little left for example.

308 is correct in that the grip angle is intended and it is just as good and just as viable as the grip angle on something like a 1911.

 

[308pirate]

Negative. If you're trying to tell me that the Glock grip angle is where NPA is for correct handgun grip on an average person, I'm not buying it. Train with it and you'll get used to it, sure. I can also train to move my head around in my truck to get the correct view in my rearview, or I can move the mirror to the correct position.

Let me see you shoot

 

[DairyDictator]

So a couple of things, I am guessing NPA to you mean natural point of aim? The grip angle of the pistol isn't really part of that (at least my understanding). Natural point of aim can be thought of as X and Y axis so if you stand square and centered to a target your npa should be there. If everything is a little left, you are probably pointed a little left for example.

308 is correct in that the grip angle is intended and it is just as good and just as viable as the grip angle on something like a 1911.

EDIT: Disregard. I'm pretty fucking retarded.