With the price drop on the S&B I'm trying to decide if I should wait for the Nightforce or get the S&B. I looked at the Mil-C reticle at the Shot Show and liked it a lot. S&B didn't have the H2CMR reticle to look through. They are both great scopes. They both have the .2 mil radian holds. The Nightforce has a center hold dot. I do have a Nightforce ATACR F1 Mil-R on my AI AT with a 6.5 Creedmore barrel coming. Want to try a different reticle. Going to a few schools this year where I will shoot out to 1000 yards plus with the hope of entering a few matches in the future. Right now I'm not interested in a Xmas tree reticle. The eye box on both scopes seemed the same. Any thoughts guys?