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My personal favorite range is 3-15x or 3-18x or 4-16x. I find that range desirable for a number of reasons. Many here prefer as much magnification as they can get. I might be on the outside as far as that goes.Gotcha ive been looking pretty hard at some lepolds on big daddy. Whats a good magnification to start with
Mostly just for fun range days but some hunting for sureOP,,, need more specific info on what your wanting out of a rifle.
Casual shooting or competition?
0-1000 yards or a legitimate mile rifle.
Hunting as well?
I started with a savage.
they can work well but have limitations.
resale value, extraction/ejection issues, limited aftermarket support in some areas.
I just recently put my savage back together for my buddy’s to use and to save wear on my magnum rifle.
Im looking at the 3x14 x40 on big daddyMostly just for fun range days but some hunting for sure
If you think you may grow your interests, pay attention to this. Savage has pros (inexpensive, nearly always accurate out of the box, easy/inexpensive to change barrels, floating bolt head minimizes impact of inconsistent brass shoulders) but some of the cons, the 2 mentioned along with a few others, can make it regrettable for some. Nothing worse than putting money into Savage specific AM components that in the end you may get back 25 - 50% of what you spent.they can work well but have limitations.
resale value, extraction/ejection issues, limited aftermarket support in some areas.
I didn't think Leupold mades a 3-14x40. Do you have a link to the scope you are looking at?Im looking at the 3x14 x40 on big daddy
Some potential negatives(Remington problems) as well but very few limitations.Well what about the remmington 700?
I was wrong its a 4-12 on the leupoldWell what about the remmington 700?
These are the minimum price of admission:
If you are going to go outside of Savage giving a budget would help narrow the recommendations.Well what about the remmington 700?
I have this gun, have sent about 1700 rounds through it and am considering next steps. It's been incredibly accurate for me, I had fun developing a load with it, and it shot the 140 grain Hornady American Gunner 6.5 Creedmoor pretty well also, about .75" 5 shot groups regularly. I don't have any particular complaints about it. The bolt has some slop in it, and if you're just racking the bolt while holding the rifle it's easy to bind it up, but if you're mounted to the gun it runs smoothly. If it gets dusty after a long day in the desert, it can bind and needs to get wiped and lubed.Im not new to guns but i am new to long range shooting. Can anyone tell me if the savage 110 tactical would be a good rifle to start with also what woukd be a good first scope
Im not new to guns but i am new to long range shooting. Can anyone tell me if the savage 110 tactical would be a good rifle to start with also what woukd be a good first scope
Do you still have the 110 tactical? Do you ever have any issues with the bolt binding? Do you ever have any feeding issues? Those seem to be the main savage complaints. I’m thinking about getting one for a learner gun. I don’t want to be fighting a sticky bolt when practicing speed reloads.I may be too late, but I have a 110 tactical in 6.5 creedmoor, it will punch .5“ - .75” groups at 100 pretty well all day as long as I do my part... it is my first long range rifle and I stacked a vortex 6-24x50 on it with Burris rings... I absolutely love it. I have some friends with ruger precision‘s, one in .308, one in 6mm and one in 6.5mm It out shoots them most days, I can regularly hit a 10” gong at 1000yds and for half the price of those rugers. Out the door I’m under $1200 for the rifle, scope, rings, and Vg6 .308 brake... same price as the ruger alone... I’ve never had my hands on any other purpose long range rifles, I’m sure there are plenty of better options but the savage is hitting above it’s weight class as far as price goes... I wasn’t sure I would be all in on shooting long range so I didn’t want to break the bank just in case it wasn’t my cup of tea
FWIW- I run 143gr precision hunters off the shelf they work phenomenally in the rifle
only drawback I’ve had is the last two rounds in the magazine can be a little finnikey
my .02
Run light and floaty on savage bolts and they do just fine.Do you still have the 110 tactical? Do you ever have any issues with the bolt binding? Do you ever have any feeding issues? Those seem to be the main savage complaints. I’m thinking about getting one for a learner gun. I don’t want to be fighting a sticky bolt when practicing speed reloads.
If I went with that Howa combo does it already take detachable mags? If I got that barreled action and that krg stock would I need bottom metal to use detachable mags?Savages can be great rifles, but for similar money, I would jump all over a Howa barreled action and toss that sucker in a chassis like the KRG Bravo, top it with decent glass like those listed above (that Bushnell especially) and call it job done until you feel like you have out grown it.
The Savage action just has a few too many drawbacks for me with the only real positive being the barrel nut system to make changing barrels yourself a breeze. You can convert just about any rifle to a barrel nut system now-a-days, like my Rem 700, that it negates any real advantages except initial cost. Also, I know the purpose behind the floating bolt head, and I know it works well, but its a weak point and I have never really trusted them in hard use as a result.
Its your coin at the end of the day, but for really similar money, you would be miles ahead of the Savage with a Howa in a Bravo, in my opinion.
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The KRG Bravo Chassis incorporates the detachable bottom metal for AICS pattern mags. You will not need to modify it or add anything to use them.If I went with that Howa combo does it already take detachable mags? If I got that barreled action and that krg stock would I need bottom metal to use detachable mags?
I’m stuck between buying a Remington 700 action and building it up or buying a Howa barreled action and upgrading as I go. I just want a good budget gun to test out the long range game. I don’t want to invest to much in case I don’t get into it. If I do get into it I’ll be building a custom rifle.The KRG Bravo Chassis incorporates the detachable bottom metal for AICS pattern mags. You will not need to modify it or add anything to use them.
Heres my current KRG bravo setup with a R700 in it. This was my "budget build" and it hammers pretty good. Its a .308, but the barrel nut "RemAge" conversion allows me to swap barrels/calibers in 10 minutes or so, in my garage.
Remington quality is hit or miss now-a-days. Howa on the other hand hasn't seemed to show a decline in quality or accuracy. I own a Remington, but Ive owned it for 15 years now. If I were in the market for a budget rifle that has huge aftermarket support for it as well as value retention, I would buy Howa, as everyone I have messed with has impressed me right off the shelf.I’m stuck between buying a Remington 700 action and building it up or buying a Howa barreled action and upgrading as I go. I just want a good budget gun to test out the long range game. I don’t want to invest to much in case I don’t get into it. If I do get into it I’ll be building a custom rifle.
Do you still have the 110 tactical? Do you ever have any issues with the bolt binding? Do you ever have any feeding issues? Those seem to be the main savage complaints. I’m thinking about getting one for a learner gun. I don’t want to be fighting a sticky bolt when practicing speed reloads.
Yea that’s the problem I’m having. I want to get something cheap to try out long range shooting.@Steel head got it... if you put too much side force on the bolt it doesn’t like it... but if you use your thumb on the back there’s never an issue, most actions I’ve ever used don’t like a ton of side force anyhow... the only time I’ve had feeding issues it is because I’ve slammed my mag into a bag and I’m holding it down....or I short stroke....as far as I figure the gun is a great starter... you could get the howa and stick it in a krg, but then you’re at 550-600ish for the rifle plus 350-400 in a stock and you are knocking on the door of $1000 bucks... if I had $1k to spend and wasn’t wanting to change the rifle I’d skip it all and get a Bergara b14 bmp... I can order one from my local gun shop for $900ish plus tax/ free shipping and a $25 transfer fee
-begara is based on remington footprint so all the custom stuff you want will fit, triggers, stock, etc... they have a nice action and are getting rave reviews for their accuracy... but if you just want to spend a little and have an accurate rifle the savage I figure is a solid choice, especially if you get into it and want to build a custom... that’s exactly what I did and what I’m doing now, I’m going to sell my savage and looking to get a tikka, I’ve been debating on the begara now though since I’ve seen the price
if anyone has first hand experience with beggars I’d love to hear what they think
Yea that’s the problem I’m having. I want to get something cheap to try out long range shooting.
I don’t want to spend much in case I don’t get into it.
If I get a savage I can get started cheap. If I don’t like long range then I’m not out much money and I can use it for hunting. If I do like it then I basically wasted money on the Savage because I’ll never be happy with it.
If I start with a Howa or Remington I can upgrade as I go but by the time I get it upgraded I could have bought a tikka or cheap custom.
So I don’t know what to do!
I know the smart thing to do is buy a tikka and if I don’t like long range then I can just sell it and get most of my money back.
I just hate to spend $1k on a rifle that may not use much.
It’s a tough decision!
ow much do you want for your savage? When are you looking to sell?@Steel head got it... if you put too much side force on the bolt it doesn’t like it... but if you use your thumb on the back there’s never an issue, most actions I’ve ever used don’t like a ton of side force anyhow... the only time I’ve had feeding issues it is because I’ve slammed my mag into a bag and I’m holding it down....or I short stroke....as far as I figure the gun is a great starter... you could get the howa and stick it in a krg, but then you’re at 550-600ish(brownells) for the howa plus 350-400 in a stock and you are knocking on the door of $1000 bucks... if I had $1k to spend and wasn’t wanting to change the rifle I’d skip it all and get a Bergara b14 bmp... I can order one from my local gun shop for $900ish plus tax/ free shipping and a $25 transfer fee
-begara is based on remington footprint so all the custom stuff you want will fit, triggers, stock, etc... they have a nice action and are getting rave reviews for their accuracy... but if you just want to spend a little and have an accurate rifle the savage I figure is a solid choice ($570ish otd buds gun shop) especially if you get into it and want to build a custom... that’s exactly what I did and what I’m doing now, I’m going to sell my savage and looking to get a tikka, I’ve been debating on the begara now though since I’ve seen the price
if anyone has first hand experience with begara I’d love to hear what they think
I’d like to sell it soon, I had an offer of $400-$450 at my local gun shop on trade in, i don’t think that’s too bad, I’ve lost a lot more on worse deals lol... but I’d like to get $500... it’s been babied and I do like it, but when I bought it I had 1k to spend on a long range set up... scope and all... I bought the savage, a vortex diamond back 6-24x50 ffp, and a VG6 brake for a .308 (no bottom ports)... and I landed around $1100 and I could ring steel at 1000 with practice... but that was the purpose for the rifle, I decided I love it and want to step up my game just for a smoother action and more aftermarket availability... accuracy would probably be a wash because the gun is a shooter for sure...I’d put it against any factory rpr any day of the week... Again though the whole purpose of the savage was to get a reliable gun to play with, that was damn accurate and reliable, and don’t break the bank, I have 2 very young kids and my gun fund has shrunk substantially (not a bad thing) and it did the job phenomenally, as a matter of fact, me buying the gun has got a few friends starting their long range addictionH
ow much do you want for your savage? When are you looking to sell?
I’m definitely interested in it. If you wanna sell it soon send me a pm. I’m looking to buy soon.I’d like to sell it soon, I had an offer of $400-$450 at my local gun shop on trade in, i don’t think that’s too bad, I’ve lost a lot more on worse deals lol... but I’d like to get $500... it’s been babied and I do like it, but when I bought it I had 1k to spend on a long range set up... scope and all... I bought the savage, a vortex diamond back 6-24x50 ffp, and a VG6 brake for a .308 (no bottom ports)... and I landed around $1100 and I could ring steel at 1000 with practice... but that was the purpose for the rifle, I decided I love it and want to step up my game just for a smoother action and more aftermarket availability... accuracy would probably be a wash because the gun is a shooter for sure...I’d put it against any factory rpr any day of the week... Again though the whole purpose of the savage was to get a reliable gun to play with, that was damn accurate and reliable, and don’t break the bank, I have 2 very young kids and my gun fund has shrunk substantially (not a bad thing) and it did the job phenomenally, as a matter of fact, me buying the gun has got a few friends starting their long range addiction
are there better options? Probably. more accurate guns? Definitely. Best bang for the buck? Maybe... it’s all in your eyes, your money just go handle a bunch and buy what feels good, at the end of the day that means more than the brand or everyone else’s opinions
Savages can be great rifles, but for similar money, I would jump all over a Howa barreled action and toss that sucker in a chassis like the KRG Bravo, top it with decent glass like those listed above (that Bushnell especially) and call it job done until you feel like you have out grown it.
The Savage action just has a few too many drawbacks for me with the only real positive being the barrel nut system to make changing barrels yourself a breeze. You can convert just about any rifle to a barrel nut system now-a-days, like my Rem 700, that it negates any real advantages except initial cost. Also, I know the purpose behind the floating bolt head, and I know it works well, but its a weak point and I have never really trusted them in hard use as a result.
Its your coin at the end of the day, but for really similar money, you would be miles ahead of the Savage with a Howa in a Bravo, in my opinion.
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M1500 6.5 CREEDMOOR BARRELED ACTION | Brownells
The Howa 1500 6.5 Creedmoor Barreled Action is a great platform for shooters who want to build their own long range, precision rifle at an affordable price. Starting with a standard-dimension forged steel short action (SA) receiver, Howa adds a ha...www.brownells.com
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HOWA 1500 SHORT ACTION BRAVO CHASSIS | Brownells
In a Partnership with Kinetic Research Group, Howa presents their 1500 Bravo Chassis! Available in both black and flat dark earth, to customize your Howa 1500 even further! The Kinetic Research Group Howa 1500 Bravo Chassis features a backbone mad...www.brownells.com