Savage AICS DBM choices?

[Kaldor]

Building a new stock for my old Savage 308. Right now it sits in a Boyds Pro Varmint I bedded it into 10 year ago, which while serviceable, is a bit short for LOP and I just dont care for how it tracks under recoil. I pulled some really heavily figured cherry and some curly maple off the shelf and glued up a nice blank. My original game plan was to just reuse the stock Savage DBM and factory mags, mostly because they are old school blued steel, and I kind wanted to keep this rifle looking old school other than the SSTL Criterion barrel it currently has. Also plan on adding in some LRI pillars (will require a bit of modification to work with a Savage) and the LRI cheek riser. However, after looking at how the factory profile of the inlet, I decided I want to increase the thickness of the inlet under the front action screw as wood stocks are prone to cracking in front of the magwell. I also plan on a crossbolt in the front and rear of the magwell to help with that.

So other than the Savage factory part and Atlasworx, does anyone know of anything else? Im looking at the profile of the Savage and it looks really wide in comparison the Atlasworx which I think will cause issues with inletting as I dont want that wider and rounder profile of it.

 

[steve101610]

PTG is also an option

 

[Kaldor]

PTG is also an option

I considered that, but PTG is always a crap shoot for QC and you might wait 60 days to get what you ordered.

I do need to touch base with Atlasworx to see if they have an inlet drawing to see what they call for from bottom of action to top of DBM distance as I dont believe any of these options have adjustable mag catches.

 

[Kaldor]

I did get a drawing back from Atlasworx and mag height can be modified with a couple of positions. So I ordered that. Also ordered a couple of MDT AICS mags without the binder plate. Between the drawing, having the DBM and mags in hand, I should be able to figure out the inlet pretty easily.

 

[tarheel7734]

I'd Be interested in updates. I am contemplating picking up a new old stock savage 10 fp with hs precision and factory dbm. All my other bolt guns use aics and would love to keep it the same.

 

[Kaldor]

I think either the Savage or Atlasworx bottom end would do fine. I've seen them both now. The Altas is a little nicer fit and finish wise. They will probably require some inletting but it's really not that hard. I'll put up a couple pictures tomorrow when I got time.

I'd Be interested in updates. I am contemplating picking up a new old stock savage 10 fp with hs precision and factory dbm. All my other bolt guns use aics and would love to keep it the same.

 

[Kaldor]

I'd Be interested in updates. I am contemplating picking up a new old stock savage 10 fp with hs precision and factory dbm. All my other bolt guns use aics and would love to keep it the same.

I dont have the bottom in a stock yet. I have a ton of different projects going this summer that are pulling me in 20 different directions. Now that my bandsaw is fixed, I need to pick up a couple of long compression pattern routing bits so I can just pattern out the blank shape with less screwing around.

Here are a few pics of where Im at.

I spent a good deal of time figuring out what the height of the bottom needs to be in relation to the action so it will actually feed as Im building a stock 100% from scratch.

I worked it out so that when the mag is fully inserted and it pressed into its most upward position at can be, it wont jam, but when the mag is hanging in a normal position it still feeds without issue.

Bolt coming in over the top of the mag when fully inserted and Im holding it up.

Bolt face engagement on the round. It feeds 100% no issues.

LRI Pillars cut to height and ready for inlet. Dont mind the angle on the front one. Some idiot did that. Wont effect end result as they are buried in Devcon anyway. The rear pillar has to be cut like that so the bolt release works correctly. Its a Savage thing. I like the pillars, but I dont know if I would use them again on a Savage action.

Ive tested with ARC, Accurate and MDT mags. All work with no issues. I cant stress how important it is to get the mag to action height correct for consistent feeding that never fails. This little exercise took me a few hours to work out to get it where I wanted it.

As far fit with a standard Savage cut bottom end? I dont have a pic of it, but I did set the Atlas next to my old Boyds stock that was setup for Savage mags, and it is very close to fitting. You would have to go in with a file and maybe a Dremel (carefully) and open the hole up a bit to get it to slide in. You would also need to check your bottom to mag to action height to ensure that it will feed reliably. Its easier to sneak up on this, slowly removing material until its perfect, rather than just making a cut and having to fill/shim/fix when you find out the bottom metal is too deep in the stock.

 

[tarheel7734]

I dont have the bottom in a stock yet. I have a ton of different projects going this summer that are pulling me in 20 different directions. Now that my bandsaw is fixed, I need to pick up a couple of long compression pattern routing bits so I can just pattern out the blank shape with less screwing around.

Here are a few pics of where Im at.

I spent a good deal of time figuring out what the height of the bottom needs to be in relation to the action so it will actually feed as Im building a stock 100% from scratch.

I worked it out so that when the mag is fully inserted and it pressed into its most upward position at can be, it wont jam, but when the mag is hanging in a normal position it still feeds without issue.

Bolt coming in over the top of the mag when fully inserted and Im holding it up.

Bolt face engagement on the round. It feeds 100% no issues.

LRI Pillars cut to height and ready for inlet. Dont mind the angle on the front one. Some idiot did that. Wont effect end result as they are buried in Devcon anyway. The rear pillar has to be cut like that so the bolt release works correctly. Its a Savage thing. I like the pillars, but I dont know if I would use them again on a Savage action.

Ive tested with ARC, Accurate and MDT mags. All work with no issues. I cant stress how important it is to get the mag to action height correct for consistent feeding that never fails. This little exercise took me a few hours to work out to get it where I wanted it.

As far fit with a standard Savage cut bottom end? I dont have a pic of it, but I did set the Atlas next to my old Boyds stock that was setup for Savage mags, and it is very close to fitting. You would have to go in with a file and maybe a Dremel (carefully) and open the hole up a bit to get it to slide in. You would also need to check your bottom to mag to action height to ensure that it will feed reliably. Its easier to sneak up on this, slowly removing material until its perfect, rather than just making a cut and having to fill/shim/fix when you find out the bottom metal is too deep in the stock.

What I'll probably do is get my local shop to inlet the 10fp hs precision so I don't have to worry about it. Space is a bit limited and doing the gunsmithing in my dining room may not be ideal. This is the atlas works correct? The other option would be a ptg correct?

 

[Kaldor]

What I'll probably do is get my local shop to inlet the 10fp hs precision so I don't have to worry about it. Space is a bit limited and doing the gunsmithing in my dining room may not be ideal. This is the atlas works correct? The other option would be a ptg correct?

Id buy a factory Savage bottom metal before I bought a PTG. The Atlas was ordered direct from them in Australia and showed up in a under a week. Im assuming the Savage would be alot closer to a drop in on a stock that already has an inlet for a standard Savage bottom metal. Might not even need a smith to inlet it.

For me? I have the tools, just been short on time this summer to get this done.

 

[tarheel7734]

The "Savage" one is a 2 piece made by accurate mag. I'd much prefer a single piece. I think the Atlasworx would be my first choice. The ptg can be had from places like midwayusa and others that have them in stock so you wouldn't have to deal with them directly.

I want to get the barrel threaded, and thought maybe get the inlet ting and barrel threaded at the same time.

 

[tarheel7734]

I ordered the atlasworxs bottom metal yesterday. Hopefully it arrives fairly quickly. Plan on going back to Tennessee tomorrow and swinging by the gun shop to pick up the savage 10 fcp in hs precision stock before I go home.