im relatively new here and have searched but havent found anything to answer my question.. im attempting to change bolts knobs on my savages my older pre accutrigger 110 bolt knob retaining bolt came right off but my newer 10fp will not budge i have bent 2 allen wrenches what am i doing wrong?
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Re: savage bolt question
My guess, it's just very tight.
I have both older and newer ones and all came off without problems.
My guess, it's just very tight.
I have both older and newer ones and all came off without problems.
Re: savage bolt question
Have you tried T-Handle allen wrenches? Might give you some more leverage too.
Have you tried T-Handle allen wrenches? Might give you some more leverage too.
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i havent tried a t handle yet but have put an allen with a 6" handle and bent it no problem do you think this is something i should keep working on or should i take it to my smith?
i havent tried a t handle yet but have put an allen with a 6" handle and bent it no problem do you think this is something i should keep working on or should i take it to my smith?
Re: savage bolt question
The screw was tight on my new 111...I used an allen socket and a long socket wrench to get off, so you might try that. Also, I stripped an allen wrench first and it was one of the silver ones. There are black ones that have harder metal so you might try that too if you have the same problem.
The screw was tight on my new 111...I used an allen socket and a long socket wrench to get off, so you might try that. Also, I stripped an allen wrench first and it was one of the silver ones. There are black ones that have harder metal so you might try that too if you have the same problem.
Re: savage bolt question
i havent hurt the allens other than bending them and that will get taken care of by the snap on man i think ill try the allen sockets and breaker bar if that doesnt do it its goin to the smith... does anyone have one of the older bolts that use a large slotted screwdriver instead of the allen?
i havent hurt the allens other than bending them and that will get taken care of by the snap on man i think ill try the allen sockets and breaker bar if that doesnt do it its goin to the smith... does anyone have one of the older bolts that use a large slotted screwdriver instead of the allen?
Re: savage bolt question
Use an Allen socket with a breaker bar, and if that doesn't do it get ahold of an impact driver. The knid that you hit with a hammer like motorcycle mechanics use.
There's no reason that the bolt won't come apart, unless somebody used some green LocTite on the threads. I've disassembled at least a dozen of these bolts, some broke loose easily while others needed a bit of persuasion.
Use an Allen socket with a breaker bar, and if that doesn't do it get ahold of an impact driver. The knid that you hit with a hammer like motorcycle mechanics use.
There's no reason that the bolt won't come apart, unless somebody used some green LocTite on the threads. I've disassembled at least a dozen of these bolts, some broke loose easily while others needed a bit of persuasion.
Re: savage bolt question
alright thats the info i was looking for i have access to any tool i need just didnt want to get too carried away and make my bolt fubar
alright thats the info i was looking for i have access to any tool i need just didnt want to get too carried away and make my bolt fubar
Re: savage bolt question
got it... took a allen socket and a 18" breaker right as i was about to give up she popped free looks like red loctite on the threads?? anyways thanks for the input guys
got it... took a allen socket and a 18" breaker right as i was about to give up she popped free looks like red loctite on the threads?? anyways thanks for the input guys
Re: savage bolt question
for any future problems with getting the bolt screw out you can soak the rear of the bolt in atf or use kroil(24)hours.
i had a similar problem with mine when i changed it over to a sharp shooters supply tactical handle
for any future problems with getting the bolt screw out you can soak the rear of the bolt in atf or use kroil(24)hours.
i had a similar problem with mine when i changed it over to a sharp shooters supply tactical handle
Re: savage bolt question
Someone else gave me this tecnique but it worked like a charm. Put an allen wrench into the bolt head, so that it makes about a 120 degree angle with the bolt handle, then set the bolt on a towel, put a towel on top, and stomp on it with your heel. after struggleing with mine, this popped it right off. Just make sure that the stomp loosens the bolt, not tightens it!!!
Someone else gave me this tecnique but it worked like a charm. Put an allen wrench into the bolt head, so that it makes about a 120 degree angle with the bolt handle, then set the bolt on a towel, put a towel on top, and stomp on it with your heel. after struggleing with mine, this popped it right off. Just make sure that the stomp loosens the bolt, not tightens it!!!
Re: savage bolt question
Another trick is to try to loosen it while in the gun, not cocked. (make SURE its's not loaded) When in the cocked position, the firing spring pushes against the rear bolt causing a lot of tension on it. In the fired position the spring tention should be less and might help a little. Once you have it loose, remove the bolt from the gun and replace the handle.
Also, there is no reason to put locktite on it when you re-install your handle. Certainly not RED locktite! Maybe a small drop of the blue stuff but that's only for peace of mind. I have never had one come loose ever.
Mike
Another trick is to try to loosen it while in the gun, not cocked. (make SURE its's not loaded) When in the cocked position, the firing spring pushes against the rear bolt causing a lot of tension on it. In the fired position the spring tention should be less and might help a little. Once you have it loose, remove the bolt from the gun and replace the handle.
Also, there is no reason to put locktite on it when you re-install your handle. Certainly not RED locktite! Maybe a small drop of the blue stuff but that's only for peace of mind. I have never had one come loose ever.
Mike
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Take a heat gun to the bolt handle next time and you don't have to soak it in anything, put a big breaker bar on it, etc.
The heat will break down the red loctite, just be patient and heat it some, then let it sit for a minute, then heat it a little more, then let it sit. Your goal is to get the whole thing nice and warm without hurting the finish on the bolt. You need the metal to soak the heat through to the loctite.
Works like a charm on all sorts of things.
Take a heat gun to the bolt handle next time and you don't have to soak it in anything, put a big breaker bar on it, etc.
The heat will break down the red loctite, just be patient and heat it some, then let it sit for a minute, then heat it a little more, then let it sit. Your goal is to get the whole thing nice and warm without hurting the finish on the bolt. You need the metal to soak the heat through to the loctite.
Works like a charm on all sorts of things.
Re: savage bolt question
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DogFace</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Someone else gave me this tecnique but it worked like a charm. Put an allen wrench into the bolt head, so that it makes about a 120 degree angle with the bolt handle, then set the bolt on a towel, put a towel on top, and stomp on it with your heel. after struggleing with mine, this popped it right off. Just make sure that the stomp loosens the bolt, not tightens it!!! </div></div>
works every time for me, put it back on the same way
LongArm
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DogFace</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Someone else gave me this tecnique but it worked like a charm. Put an allen wrench into the bolt head, so that it makes about a 120 degree angle with the bolt handle, then set the bolt on a towel, put a towel on top, and stomp on it with your heel. after struggleing with mine, this popped it right off. Just make sure that the stomp loosens the bolt, not tightens it!!! </div></div>
works every time for me, put it back on the same way
LongArm
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