I know it's not the typical long range set up most of us on here are familiar with, but I've always had a sick fascination with Jeff Cooper's Scout Rifle concept. I stumbled onto a pretty good deal for a Savage Model 11 Scout. I wanted to know if anyone else had any input on these. So far I like the feel. I'm looking forward to putting some rounds through it. It has an aftermarket enlarged bolt handle and a Vortex Crossfire 2-7x32 duplex. Should be a sweet woods gun for here around Georgia. And for $550 with everything, I bit. I would like to swap the rings to a QD style to allow quick access to the irons in an emergency, and a nice leather Ching Sling.
Savage model 11 Scout
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I remember looking through the Shooter's Bible at the Steyr when I was younger. I wanted one so bad. One day I'll pony up for the original Scout. How do you like the Burris? Is the eye relief good? This Vortex is nice, but I like the idea of the Ballistic Plex. Normally I'm not crazy about BDC, but it works with the scout mentality of "practical accuracy."
The scope for what it’s designed for is amazing. Eyebox is great and eye relief is phenomenal on both 2x and 7x. Very forgiving and the glass is of exceptional quality for a LER optic.
Also wanted to point out their has recently been a drastic price drop in BNIB Steyr Scout rifles. So they can be had at a now more competitive price than when originally put on the market until up until recent.
Also wanted to point out their has recently been a drastic price drop in BNIB Steyr Scout rifles. So they can be had at a now more competitive price than when originally put on the market until up until recent.
You aren't lying. Wow they've came down a ton! The Burris might be on the short list now. Set the Vortex aside for a 10/22 Takedown Scout I've been meaning to assemble.
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I had one for a while until it occurred to me I wasn't doing much scouting.
I don't have a warm and fuzzy acceptance of the Scout concept. But I also own and enjoy a Savage Scout. However, it's the earlier iteration, the 10FCM Scout, and uses the less common 7.62x39 chambering.
My objections center around the "Scout" scope mounting. IMHO, it serves no useful purpose on a rifle that also employs a Detachable Magazine while still mandating an LER scope. IMHO, the only practical justification for the LER scope would be that it allows unimpeded feeding from the top, ideally via stripper clips.
The first thing I did was to remove the Scout mount and install a conventional 20MOA sloped base. It has an older Tasco 3-9x42 Varmint/Target scope, and it all works together nicely enough.
Then, I handloaded the 7.62x39 round as a .308 caliber chambering to match the Savage Scout's .308 diameter bore. The outcome treated the x39 a bit more like a 30PPC. Accuracy improved, especially when I standardized on the Hornady 110gr V-Max bullet.
In its current configuration, it's a compact, accurate lightweight walkaround rifle for working within a very adequate 200yd distance limitation.
Not a Scout, but maybe something a bit better.
Greg
My objections center around the "Scout" scope mounting. IMHO, it serves no useful purpose on a rifle that also employs a Detachable Magazine while still mandating an LER scope. IMHO, the only practical justification for the LER scope would be that it allows unimpeded feeding from the top, ideally via stripper clips.
The first thing I did was to remove the Scout mount and install a conventional 20MOA sloped base. It has an older Tasco 3-9x42 Varmint/Target scope, and it all works together nicely enough.
Then, I handloaded the 7.62x39 round as a .308 caliber chambering to match the Savage Scout's .308 diameter bore. The outcome treated the x39 a bit more like a 30PPC. Accuracy improved, especially when I standardized on the Hornady 110gr V-Max bullet.
In its current configuration, it's a compact, accurate lightweight walkaround rifle for working within a very adequate 200yd distance limitation.
Not a Scout, but maybe something a bit better.
Greg
The useful purpose is the ability to shoot with both eyes open while using a low power fixed scope or a low powered optic with variable magnification. It is definitely outdated, but still useful in that aspect nonetheless.
If you don’t plan to or need to or foresee a reason to shoot with both eyes open then a LER scope wouldn’t be useful which I’m assuming you check all three of those blocks with your current optic setup.
I like the scout concept not necessarily in a defensive manner as it is so hard pushed on us by the late Jeff Cooper, but more so in a hunting role. I think as a short range hunting rifle the scout concept works great. Especially in an environment where space is somewhat confined or lots of brush and foliage are about.
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This is exactly my perceived role for the model 11. It will be a great hunting/walkabout gun here in Georgia. Most shots are no more than 100 yards, but there are some places where it could go farther. The LER scope picks up a target faster than conventional and can get that fast shot when it counts. Coyote will probably be my main use for this one, with the hopes of a few possible hogs here and there.
Yep a perfect role for the concept. Swear man someone always has to derail the topic off into something it wasn’t intended to be. Of course you can “keep both eyes open with any scope”, ?? I’m not stupid. This method is quick to acquire and get on target though as you described. Great choice for Georgia actually just got my Scout zeroed down in Spaulding County Georgia.
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I actually have been testing this new scope that you actually shoot both eyes closed. It's for my prayer rifle. Still working out the kinks.... Should work great in close quarters.
Yeah, I'm up a little higher in Paulding (we like our counties to rhyme in Georgia) County. Starting to get into the hills. Here lately coyotes have been giving issues. My boss just told me last week he wanted me to scout his land and try to take care of some of them. I was going to carry my .300 BLK or Scorpion suppressed since it's such tight quarters. Then I stumbled onto this the next day.
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