SBR Rifle Optic
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Hensoldt 6-24x72 with sunshade.
And before all the haters start throwing shade, that rifle with that optic will get you all kinda freaky ass and attention at the local public range.
It says, to the untrained eye, "I'm basically Delta."
That, and my 10.5s wear aimpoints. The purpose of the gun - unless I am doing it all wrong, which is possible - is movement speed. You give up bullet speed and mission flexibility (and possible some hearing) for the capacity to clear corners like you know what you are doing. Whether that is room clearing or vehicle operations, the point to the setup is speed. And aimpoint is speed.
And before all the haters start throwing shade, that rifle with that optic will get you all kinda freaky ass and attention at the local public range.
It says, to the untrained eye, "I'm basically Delta."
That, and my 10.5s wear aimpoints. The purpose of the gun - unless I am doing it all wrong, which is possible - is movement speed. You give up bullet speed and mission flexibility (and possible some hearing) for the capacity to clear corners like you know what you are doing. Whether that is room clearing or vehicle operations, the point to the setup is speed. And aimpoint is speed.
Red dot (Aimpoint, Eotech, etc) zero it at 50 so you're gonna be essentially center mass hold from 0 to 200 or so...which is usually max effective range for SBR's . Easy button.
I have an MRO on mine.. Not my first choice but I found it used, locally, with ADM mount for cheap..
I bought an Aimpoint Duty RDS based on the responses I got in my similar thread
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Update- (3/31/23)- What Red dot for 11.5” SBR?
I’m looking to top an upper for my SBR that can withstand abuse and mainly cold weather (-25 on some occasion) Thinking about the Aimpoint PRO I’ve had great luck with Sig Romeo 5 but looking for the best (within reason) option for this Truck gun/SHTF/HD type rifle in 556
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Purpose drives it all. My 10.5 300 BO sbr wears a 1-4 because my daughter uses it to hunt from time to time. Nice for her to have some magnification to make a more comfortable shot.
My 5.5, (well now 7.25 inch) 9mm sbr wears some magpul flip sights and an MRO, but only had flip ups for a while
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1-4 is nice because with the right lit reticle you can use it just like a red dot, but you also the the convenience of still not being able to see .224 holes in a target at distance just like your RDS and irons
I really like mine, just wish it was a 1-6 but it was a good deal.
You must have been on the SCAR design team with all those different shades of tactical lolNot an SBR but I run a red dot and a multiplier on my 11.5" pistols.
Pretty sure that’s precisely the reason we don’t use them.
I was being facetious but chose to omit the emoji to be more subtle about it.
That's because holosun is the only optic tough enough to survive running away and jumping in a ditch.
Who cares about zero parallax, poi shift and battery life when your idea of returning fire is to "make some noise"
I really like the Burris RT 6 as well. Didn’t really like it for my 11.5” because I wanted light and compact. But it would be nice if you aren’t worried about size
I had a Burris xtr 1-8 as well that I had on my DDM4V11. Nice optic but a bit on the heavy and not compact size of the scale
I had a Burris xtr 1-8 as well that I had on my DDM4V11. Nice optic but a bit on the heavy and not compact size of the scale
....a red dot system will be the "lightest" option to meet your stated criteria. I would suggest also have standard BUIS installed as a backup to the RDS. I recommend the RDS mount used be for a "co-witness" of the dot with the BUIS. The "co-witness" can allow for alternative sighting pictures (rear BUIS apeture + dot, dot+BUIS front post, BUIS rear apeture+ RDS "window", RDS "window"+BUIS front post) that will still allow effective aiming in the event of an individual BUIS loss, battery loss, etc.
...If you need/desire magnification, a "flip to side" magnifier still allows rail space for BUIS installation. A QD mount for the magnifier is recommended. The combined weight of a magnifier+mount and a RDS w/mount is typically less than the weight of a LPVO w/mount.
...If you are able to, try handling both, RDS, RDS+magnifier, LVPO to see which works better for you from the get go. 1st use impressions give you immediate feedback on what feels natural and will be what your body+mind will default to in a chaotic scenario. You can train to build upon that "natural" reaction for greater efficiency.
...brand name will be whatever your budget allows, there are just so many flavors nowadays and a great majority are very reliable. Don't sacrifice reliability for "cool factor".
YMMV
...If you need/desire magnification, a "flip to side" magnifier still allows rail space for BUIS installation. A QD mount for the magnifier is recommended. The combined weight of a magnifier+mount and a RDS w/mount is typically less than the weight of a LPVO w/mount.
...If you are able to, try handling both, RDS, RDS+magnifier, LVPO to see which works better for you from the get go. 1st use impressions give you immediate feedback on what feels natural and will be what your body+mind will default to in a chaotic scenario. You can train to build upon that "natural" reaction for greater efficiency.
...brand name will be whatever your budget allows, there are just so many flavors nowadays and a great majority are very reliable. Don't sacrifice reliability for "cool factor".
YMMV
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I have BUIS for my red dots and understand their use as a backup.
Just curious why you would use the red dot with the front or rear BUIS as an “alternative sighting picture”
If the dot works why the BUIS in conjunction with front or rear? Just curious
....hope for the best, plan for the worst..
...the view window of a RDS can perform the same as a "ghost ring" if needed (battery loss, individual/complete BUIS loss/damage) for CQB.
...if your BUIS is already calibrated/zeroed for distances beyond the typical "CQB" distance, with the dot active you can establish "holds" for moderate/greater distances to achieve potentially greater accuracy when utilizing rear+dot or dot+front if the need arises by moving the dot up or down in/on the rear aperture/front sight post. If the dot is inactive, the RDS window can be utilized in same manner with one of the BUIS sights, rear or front as you have 2 reference points for your sighting.
YMMV
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The lightest RDS combination I've tried is an RMR on a Scalarworks mount. Obviously not as bulletproof as an Aimpoint but it depends on what you're doing.
OP,
What is the optic used for?
Hunting hogs with a lpvo would make more sense then a red dot. Likewise a red dot make more sense for a close and compact shft setup
What is the optic used for?
Hunting hogs with a lpvo would make more sense then a red dot. Likewise a red dot make more sense for a close and compact shft setup
Dude.
GBPSE.
Jeez.
I know because you didnt buy an ARCA mount for that 12.5” KAC with the ATACR and use a saddle.
And yeah, subtracted 2” because, well, yer a dude, and ya gotta.
Maybe its actually a 10.5”??
OP. Aimpoints kick but for stubby ARs.
They have a new one, smaller than the pro, cheaper than the T2 or Micro. Looks cool.
Probably not upgrading several ARs, but may switch for my main one.
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She takes it to the deer blind when and if she goes.What does your daughter hunt with it?
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Not an sbr or a pistol, but when I decide to really finish my 16 inch 350 legend bolt gun, it willl wear a 1-6 I’m pretty sure1-4 is nice because with the right lit reticle you can use it just like a red dot, but you also the the convenience of still not being able to see .224 holes in a target at distance just like your RDS and irons
I really like mine, just wish it was a 1-6 but it was a good deal.
Aimpoint T-2 and vortex micro 3x. Waiting for the guy that gave me shit for having that magnifier last time I posted. 
I think he called me a poor.
I think he called me a poor.
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