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Flatter than a 338, less recoil. The brass until this week has been the weak spot. Hoping Lapua brass lasts longer than Norma. First it doesn't compete with a 308. I'd prefer it over a 300 wm. I've heard Hornady is releasing 300 Norma factory so if you don't reload thats still an option w/o paying a lot for AB ammo.
The cons has been no factory offering, 1k round barrel life, suspect brass life
pro: less recoil than a lapua with most the power, better ballistics than a 300wm,
There is a lot more but a few basics.
Yeh. That's exactly where I ended up: 30 or 28 Nosler.You are correct demolitionman... .338LM boltface and action. If you are running a std. Magnum Action, 30 Nossler is potentially worth a look.
VH , a lot of guys have found the Norma 300 NM brass to be
very soft and getting loose primers after just a few firings .
Same here .
Many of us are shooting around 84 to 86 of H1000 , yet there
are faster nodes around 89 and 91 ( 91 for Improved maybe )
that kills the Norma brass in one shot . ( 215 Hybrid for eg )
My limited experience of Norma brass is it depends on the
caliber . Lots of guys using it in 7 Rem Mag no problems ,
yet the 6.5 x284 and 300 NM variants seem to be v average .
The Lap brass will hopefully prove much better .
That's odd. 300NM brass is just the parent 338NM brass necked down to .30 cal. I've been shooting Norma 338NM brass since 2014. I've been running in the neighborhood of 88-89gr Retumbo behind a 300gr SMK, and have 6x firings on my original 200 pcs. Pockets are starting to get a little loose on some, but all are still quite useable. I expect at least another couple firings out of them.
The bolt face is the face of the bolt....the front end that supports the case head. In this case they're saying that the case head for the 300 NM is the same as the 338 Lapua Mag. That is because the 338 and 300 Norma Mags are both based on the 338 Lapua Mag case shortened and or necked to fit the 30 cal.What is a boltface? The bolt or some special kind of bolt or just standard bolt for LA?
Compared to lapua brand 338 lapua, it isn’t nearly as strong.
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I can't see a lot of difference in the cost of loading the 300NM vs the 338 LM. Cases are about the same cost and bullets aren't much different so where is the savings?
Frank
....so, are there any advantages besides recoil over the .338, if ammo prices are roughly the same?
300 NM rifles and ammo can be slightly lighter. 338 LM can shoot heavier bullets.
why would people choose 300nm over 338lm if there's only a slight price and weight reduction?
I’m with Cleckner (that article is well worth a read) about not dropping 338LM for 300NM, but if you’re just starting out, why not go with slightly less weight and less recoil if good brass is available?But performance wise, we're about the same level?
....Im kinda back at the beginning of this thread. why would people choose 300nm over 338lm if there's only a slight price and weight reduction?
But performance wise, we're about the same level?
....Im kinda back at the beginning of this thread. why would people choose 300nm over 338lm if there's only a slight price and weight reduction?
Im not disputing surgeon260’s results above, but I’ve never been anywhere near 2850 fps with a 300gr bullet in the lapua. More like 2650-2700 with my everyday loads.
Bergers got a 329gr 338 due out in a year.
But performance wise, we're about the same level?
....Im kinda back at the beginning of this thread. why would people choose 300nm over 338lm if there's only a slight price and weight reduction?
Ok, I was going by moving velocity at target, at a mile in my air, 2700 vs 3000, velocity is 1164 vs 1181 FPS at target, advantage 300 Norma, 230 Berger vs 300 Berger, maybe I’m missing something.
At 2000yards the Norma is 1041 vs Lapua is 1052 advantage Lapua, again speed at target.
I got into it, then got out and went back to 300 win mag. With my 27 inch AXMC in 300 win, im getting 2900-2950 fps with Hornady ELD 225s, and looking into the new Sierra 230s, or possibly stepping down to see if more velocity does me any better. The main issue was the cost per round versus the slight edge it gave me over 300 win. I haven't shot past 1 mile yet, but according to my apps and using 2930 fps as my median (Highest group was 2970 fps and I loaded down 1 grain which gave me 2925-2930 average) im still at 1312 FPS at 1 mile. Last week I was using 15.5 mils of elevation to hit 1 mile, but its also pretty warm here right now so that thin air makes those bullets fly!