Just purchased a Remington Ultimate muzzleloader. I am trying to get me a 400 yard ML if possible without going smokeless. If I can get this gun to shoot as is with the velocity and accuracy I want it will keep the factory barrel. If it wont shoot or I cant get velocities I want I will be changing barrels and going smokeless. So, with that said, it gonna have some serious recoil. I am currently searching the scope market for the right glass for it. I have pretty much narrowed it down to the new Vortex PST gen 2 or a used NF NXS. I’m thinking I should go ahead and bite the bullet and get the 5-25 power instead of the 3-15. I’m slightly concerned abt the short eye relief on the PST. What’s everyone’s thoughts on a scope for a big recoiling light gun? IS there another piece of glass I should be looking at around the 1000 to 1200 price range?
Rifle Scopes Scope for Remington muzzleoader?
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More than likely I am leaning that way. I am at least gonna give it a test run like this but more than likely it is going smokeless. Just hate to spend this much money on a muzzleloader. Once its smokeless though, I will always have a reliable shooter at pretty much any distance.
DON'T SHOOT SMOKELESS!
I helped design that rifle and R & D it for about 15 years or more before Remington bought the patent. I've shot thousands of rounds out of them and killed game out past 500 yards.
Do not shoot Blackhorn 209, that stuff is dangerous in my opinion.
I've shot 3 Triple 7 magnum pellets for years behind a 300gr Hornady SST. Here's some advice that will save you alot of frustration, throw away the sabots that come from the factory bullets and buy a bulk bag of Harvester High Pressure H5045LB sabots. Most factory sabots will not hold up to the heat and velocity that the Ultimate produces, that is the #1 reason people can't get them to shoot.
The factory ignition system is the secret sauce that makes the rifle pure magic! The system is completely sealed allowing zero gas blow back making the rifle a breeze to clean. The magnum rifle primers are much hotter than a 209 primer and it actually creates a controlled detonation upon firing when using pellets.
I recommend the Leupold VX6 series such as the 3-18x50 with the CDS turret, I can probably find a CDS turret engraved for 300gr SST around my reloading room somewhere if you go that route.
I helped design that rifle and R & D it for about 15 years or more before Remington bought the patent. I've shot thousands of rounds out of them and killed game out past 500 yards.
Do not shoot Blackhorn 209, that stuff is dangerous in my opinion.
I've shot 3 Triple 7 magnum pellets for years behind a 300gr Hornady SST. Here's some advice that will save you alot of frustration, throw away the sabots that come from the factory bullets and buy a bulk bag of Harvester High Pressure H5045LB sabots. Most factory sabots will not hold up to the heat and velocity that the Ultimate produces, that is the #1 reason people can't get them to shoot.
The factory ignition system is the secret sauce that makes the rifle pure magic! The system is completely sealed allowing zero gas blow back making the rifle a breeze to clean. The magnum rifle primers are much hotter than a 209 primer and it actually creates a controlled detonation upon firing when using pellets.
I recommend the Leupold VX6 series such as the 3-18x50 with the CDS turret, I can probably find a CDS turret engraved for 300gr SST around my reloading room somewhere if you go that route.
I'm specifically talking in the Ultimate which uses up to a 200gr charge of pyrodox. i cant tell you how many muzzies(all brands) i've seen blown up from large charges of it. Just because you can load 4 pyrodoxc pellets in an Ultimate doesnt mean you can do the same with BH209. It acts more like smokeless than a BP substitute. It produces a lot higher temp upon ignition, ive seen alot of breech plugs that were heat cut and destroyed from using moderate charges.
So from personal experiences I would never use it, thats my opinion. You really have to be extra careful with it if you choose to use it.
So from personal experiences I would never use it, thats my opinion. You really have to be extra careful with it if you choose to use it.
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