I would like to put a modern scope like a Vortex on a K31 rifle does anyone know the best way to do it
Scope mount for swiss k31 rifle
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Buy a scope mount for it. Quite a few companies make them
Thats a good question..
The type of Mount should depend on the size and weight of the scope resp. his concret purpose..
I don't know modern scopes like the Vortex-Scopes well. But on the other side I use since many years a heavy and long somewhat "classic" scope on a K31-Variant. It's Pecar's Champion 10x45 on a Richner-mount. That's a centered mount, one of the most-used mounts for the K31 in CH here, well-known also elswhere.
A Vortex LHT 3-15×42 f.e. weighs ca. 500 grams and has approx. the similar length of this Pecar.
Perhaps that helps a bit ?
The type of Mount should depend on the size and weight of the scope resp. his concret purpose..
I don't know modern scopes like the Vortex-Scopes well. But on the other side I use since many years a heavy and long somewhat "classic" scope on a K31-Variant. It's Pecar's Champion 10x45 on a Richner-mount. That's a centered mount, one of the most-used mounts for the K31 in CH here, well-known also elswhere.
A Vortex LHT 3-15×42 f.e. weighs ca. 500 grams and has approx. the similar length of this Pecar.
Perhaps that helps a bit ?
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THANK YOU THIS IS THE KIND OF INFORMATION I AM LOOKING FOR DO YOU KNOW WHERE ONE WOULD LOOK FOR THIS COMBINATION.
You're welcome, cuirc.
As far as I know, some Swiss companies export this mounts, too. I don't know the offerings in the USA.
Without knowing their conditions, I would check this sites in your place: as first Munitionsdepot.ch, as second Gunfactory.ch. I can't add here this links now, unfortunately.. .
Good luck
As far as I know, some Swiss companies export this mounts, too. I don't know the offerings in the USA.
Without knowing their conditions, I would check this sites in your place: as first Munitionsdepot.ch, as second Gunfactory.ch. I can't add here this links now, unfortunately.. .
Good luck
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THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP MUCH APPRECIATEDYou're welcome, cuirc.
As far as I know, some Swiss companies export this mounts, too. I don't know the offerings in the USA.
Without knowing their conditions, I would check this sites in your place: as first Munitionsdepot.ch, as second Gunfactory.ch. I can't add here this links now, unfortunately.. .
Good luck
When I HAD a few K31's, I installed this mount. I never had an issue with it as long as you got it tight. Works pretty good.
www.swissproductsusa.com
K31 ALUMINUM CLAMP ON MOUNT | swissproductsusa
K31 Clamp On Mount: This finely machined mount of the hardest aircraft aluminum available will install quickly on your K31 receiver, requires no alteration to the rifle and can be removed and reattached with a true return to zero. The 3/8" rail allows for clean ejection of expended brass and...
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Snipers should stick, not ? 
Yes, that kind of mount works also here without an issue.. . You have to train the ejection a bit, meaning to find out how many speed in this move is necessary to bring the case out for sure. But that's all.
The company Richner merged with the Munitionsdepot once. I visited them first in July 06 and bought my mount there. Now, 18 years later I drove again to them to buy a bit quite rare ammo. Nowadays it's a branch of the M.
Meanwhile Mr. Rolf Schaufelberger at Gunfactory offers his construction also since a long time, pointing out that they had invented this mount.
Well, whoever invented it in the end, I simply can't imagine that this couldn't have been already much earlier. This is IMHO not technically that demanding..
Therefore i choosed it for my Schmidt-Rubin-Zielfernrohrkarabiner Zfk 84 (f)-Project. Together with the Riflescope "Champion", made by Pecar, Berlin and Richner-rings, also made of steel.
Around 300 Shots with a few old GP11 from 1994 or older, a lot of 7,5x55 mm Swiss, f.e.Selliers Topshot 174 grs FMJBT and some Norma 168 grs HPBT Swiss Match, old and New and some 175 grs SM Match-Training and quite a bit of the RUAG 175 grs Swiss P Target-Round
Yes, that kind of mount works also here without an issue.. . You have to train the ejection a bit, meaning to find out how many speed in this move is necessary to bring the case out for sure. But that's all.
The company Richner merged with the Munitionsdepot once. I visited them first in July 06 and bought my mount there. Now, 18 years later I drove again to them to buy a bit quite rare ammo. Nowadays it's a branch of the M.
Meanwhile Mr. Rolf Schaufelberger at Gunfactory offers his construction also since a long time, pointing out that they had invented this mount.
Well, whoever invented it in the end, I simply can't imagine that this couldn't have been already much earlier. This is IMHO not technically that demanding..
Therefore i choosed it for my Schmidt-Rubin-Zielfernrohrkarabiner Zfk 84 (f)-Project. Together with the Riflescope "Champion", made by Pecar, Berlin and Richner-rings, also made of steel.
Around 300 Shots with a few old GP11 from 1994 or older, a lot of 7,5x55 mm Swiss, f.e.Selliers Topshot 174 grs FMJBT and some Norma 168 grs HPBT Swiss Match, old and New and some 175 grs SM Match-Training and quite a bit of the RUAG 175 grs Swiss P Target-Round
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Hello tpepper70 - Sergeant Pepper?When I HAD a few K31's, I installed this mount. I never had an issue with it as long as you got it tight. Works pretty good.
K31 ALUMINUM CLAMP ON MOUNT | swissproductsusa
K31 Clamp On Mount: This finely machined mount of the hardest aircraft aluminum available will install quickly on your K31 receiver, requires no alteration to the rifle and can be removed and reattached with a true return to zero. The 3/8" rail allows for clean ejection of expended brass and...
Why only had a few K31's ?
THANK YOUHello tpepper70 - Sergeant Pepper?
Why only had a few K31's ?
THANK YOUSnipers should stick, not ?
Yes, that kind of mount works also here without an issue.. . You have to train the ejection a bit, meaning to find out how many speed in this move is necessary to bring the case out for sure. But that's all.
The company Richner merged with the Munitionsdepot once. I visited them first in July 06 and bought my mount there. Now, 18 years later I drove again to them to buy a bit quite rare ammo. Nowadays it's a branch of the M.
Meanwhile Mr. Rolf Schaufelberger at Gunfactory offers his construction also since a long time, pointing out that they had invented this mount.
Well, whoever invented it in the end, I simply can't imagine that this couldn't have been already much earlier. This is IMHO not technically that demanding..
Therefore i choosed it for my Schmidt-Rubin-Zielfernrohrkarabiner Zfk 84 (f)-Project. Together with the Riflescope "Champion", made by Pecar, Berlin and Richner-rings, also made of steel.
Around 300 Shots with a few old GP11 from 1994 or older, a lot of 7,5x55 mm Swiss, f.e.Selliers Topshot 174 grs FMJBT and some Norma 168 grs HPBT Swiss Match, old and New and some 175 grs SM Match-Training and quite a bit of the RUAG 175 grs Swiss P Target-Round
I have two of them one has the dioptic manual sights love em. I have always wanted to scope the other now I have it on my to do list. I am also taking a 40-XB and converting it to 6.5X47 Lapua a sort of melding the classic with today.
Only to be sure that I understand correct: because of covid you decided to use your money, your energy etc. only for your most popular cal.-rifles ?
Use Swissproductsusa drill and tap mount for left side placement of the scope.
Then use a Garand type cheekpiece to get proper cheek contact.
By doing this there is no need to move the head during cycling of the bolt and one can reach the straight pull rifles full potential during rapid fire shooting.
Then get a 30mm mount with this configuration to get proper scope placement.
(Valmet/Tikka 412 optilock QD steelmount for 9.3x74r double rifle is bombproof)
The Tikka mount will take all Sako optilock rings from 1" to 34mm.
Ultra low rings will suit best on the K31.
Then use a Garand type cheekpiece to get proper cheek contact.
By doing this there is no need to move the head during cycling of the bolt and one can reach the straight pull rifles full potential during rapid fire shooting.
Then get a 30mm mount with this configuration to get proper scope placement.
(Valmet/Tikka 412 optilock QD steelmount for 9.3x74r double rifle is bombproof)
The Tikka mount will take all Sako optilock rings from 1" to 34mm.
Ultra low rings will suit best on the K31.
Well, not really. Since ammo and reloading components were very scarce where I live, I sold all my odd-ball caliber rifle and standardized to only the most popular caliber rifles/pistols. Easier to find ammo and reloading components for the popular calibers.
Your in Switzerland right nice to meet you I thought one place in the world where ammo etc would be easy to get was there.
I see.. Yes. That's a valid argument, the ammunition supply.. . That's easy to emphatize with.
Honestly said, every month i spend quite a lot of time in finding and acquiring some further ammo. Also in 7,5 mm Swiss/GP11
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For Swiss ammo - K-31 I bought cases recently from GrafI see.. Yes. That's a valid argument, the ammunition supply.. . That's easy to emphatize with.
Honestly said, every month i spend quite a lot of time in finding and acquiring some further ammo. Also in 7,5 mm Swiss/GP11
The Reloading Authority - Graf & Sons
Graf & Sons, the reloading authority, has a wide selection of reloading supplies, shooting supplies, ammo and more.
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Today that is - unfortunately - a bit more complicated than earlier. Also here in that case... But many still remain loyal to their hobby
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For Swiss ammo - K-31 I bought cases recently from Graf
I probably should buy moreThe Reloading Authority - Graf & Sons
Graf & Sons, the reloading authority, has a wide selection of reloading supplies, shooting supplies, ammo and more.
Probably you should do that - YES
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During the cycling of the bolt the head movement ist not always a relevant one IMHO. That depends on the different individual physical conditions.
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Perhaps, cuirc, you benefit from a look at this site still more, concerning your question: https://mittelkaliber.ch/karabiner-31/. English version. They recommend the centered mount-type.
Good success !
Good success !
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That is a no brain er. If a lot of companies make them then I shouldn't have too much trouble finding one
update getting the right scope mount is not easy I have identified 1 and am looking for it in through a dealer that imports from Switzerland as to the scope I managed to get a VALDADA European but not used for sniper purpose on this rifle. There are three that were all difficult to find.
