Scope out of adjustment

[daleo8803]

I put a 20 moa egw scope rail on my dad's 10/22. It has a vortex crossfire ii 6x18x40 scope using warne steel medium height rings. At 100yds the scope has no more vertical adjustment, you have to aim 10 inches high. The scope has 50moa of adjustment. I'm confused. I thought the 20 moa rail would help the scope not use as much of its internal adjustment. Should I put a 0 moa rail on? Shooting standard velocity ammo. Thanks for any help.

 

[Olen_4504]

dumb question - did you put the 20moa rail on facing the right way?

 

[daleo8803]

dumb question - did you put the 20moa rail on facing the right way?

As far I know yes. The extended part of the rail is over the barrel and the thicker part of the rail is at the rear of the receiver.

 

[BlastersAreCool]

A pic to confirm wouldn't hurt. It really could be a number of things and a pic would help

 

[Alabusa]

There is no guarantee that the scope is perfectly centered optically. Take the rail off and install the scope straight, zero moa, and see how much travel is left like that. If less than 20 moa you will not be able to use the rail.

 

[daleo8803]

Pic. The rail can't be installed backwards because of the bolt pattern ( just released this! Lol ). The rifle is taken apart for a detailed cleaning in preparation for a victor titan stock, GM bull barrel, and a ruger BX trigger.

 

[BigTex]

May be experiencing barrel droop, meaning the barrel is sagging under it's own weight. It's pretty common with Bull barrels on 10/22s. You can either bed it or buy an after market v block to help alleviate the issue.

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1...ating-barrel-retainer-block-ruger-10-22-steel

I bedded mine with Devcon to fix the problem.

 

[BlastersAreCool]

May be experiencing barrel droop, meaning the barrel is sagging under it's own weight. It's pretty common with Bull barrels on 10/22s. You can either bed it or buy an after market v block to help alleviate the issue.

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1...ating-barrel-retainer-block-ruger-10-22-steel

I bedded mine with Devcon to fix the problem.

I thought barrel droop because I've experienced it with a break barrel air gun but never heard of the issue with a rim fire so I didn't mention it. That's crazy I didn't know that was a thing w/ 10-22s as well

 

[BillOH]

Does the barrel contact the stock. Try putting a spacer between the stock and the barrel near the front end of the stock that will put upward pressure on the barrel. I've used a stack of business cards before. Doesn't need to look pretty to try.

 

[steve123]

Buy some Burris Signature rings, the inserts will allow you to orient the scope however you wish.

 

[daleo8803]

Buy some Burris Signature rings, the inserts will allow you to orient the scope however you wish.

Just read about these. They seem great! For a bull barrel and a 6x24x50 scope would you recommend medium or high rings? Thanks!

 

[steve123]

Just read about these. They seem great! For a bull barrel and a 6x24x50 scope would you recommend medium or high rings? Thanks!

Safe than sorry??? Without measurements you're just taking a chance if you buy the mediums. Maybe order both and send the one you don't need back.

 

[billmeek]

Just read about these. They seem great! For a bull barrel and a 6x24x50 scope would you recommend medium or high rings? Thanks!

I've been using the Burris XTR Signature 1-inch high rings on my bull barrel 22s. You can see pictures at the bottom of this post:

https://www.snipershide.com/shooting/threads/first-10-22-build.6928705/

 

[daleo8803]

@billmeek that looks great! I guess I will be getting the high rings and ordering a 20 moa base.

 

[billmeek]

Those are "low rings". The XTR signatures come in 1, 1.25, and 1.5 inch heights.

XTR Signature Rings™ | Burris Optics

www.burrisoptics.com

 

[billmeek]

I just noticed in the 10/22 First Build thread that I stated they were Burris medium height rings. I just went back and checked all 3 orders I made for the XTR Signature rings and they were all 1-inch height (low) rings. Here's exactly what I ordered each time:

Amazon.com : Burris 420221 XTR 30mm Signature Tactical Scope Rings Medium Height - 1.00 in. : Sports & Outdoors

Amazon.com : Burris 420221 XTR 30mm Signature Tactical Scope Rings Medium Height - 1.00 in. : Sports & Outdoors

www.amazon.com

 

[BigTex]

I thought barrel droop because I've experienced it with a break barrel air gun but never heard of the issue with a rim fire so I didn't mention it. That's crazy I didn't know that was a thing w/ 10-22s as well

It's the nature of the beast with really heavy barrels that are fit to "drop in" tolerances and do not thread into the receiver. I will almost guarantee you this is what you have.