Scope similar to Vortex Viper 6-20.5X for rimfire

[timelinex]

So I use to have a Viper 6-20.5x50 on my 308 and it was recently replaced by a vortex PST. I am thinking of getting a good 22 trainer(instead of my marlin 795) and need a scope. I would love to put my last viper on it BUT theres one big probelm with it. Its meant for longer range, so just like many other long range scopes the parallax adjustment doesn't go below 50 yards. Since this is for a 22 I would like something that can focus in on something at as low as 25 yards.

So to get to the point, Is there something like the vortex viper 6-20.5x50 thats in the same price range or cheaper but can focus in on things closer than 50 yards.

 

[Chiller]

Re: Scope similar to Vortex Viper 6-24x50 for rimfire

at what magnification?

 

[BlackWhiskey]

Re: Scope similar to Vortex Viper 6-24x50 for rimfire

A Millet TRS-1 may fit the bill. Mil/Mil, 5 mils per rev, focus down to 10 yards.

 

[timelinex]

Re: Scope similar to Vortex Viper 6-24x50 for rimfire

I would like something with an adjustable magnification that has a max of anything between 18 to 24.

This viper was perfect. The only thing I would like that this one didn't have is a reticle more like the PST's with hashes(not just dots) and matching mil turrets. But its not overly important for a trainer, and im guessing most scopes wont have this in this price range.

 

[timelinex]

Re: Scope similar to Vortex Viper 6-24x50 for rimfire

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BlackWhiskey</div><div class="ubbcode-body">A Millet TRS-1 may fit the bill. Mil/Mil, 5 mils per rev, focus down to 10 yards.</div></div>
I've looked at the millet, and while some people rave about it, I've seen alot of people call is absolute junk. I have a 'higher end' BSA on my marlin 795 and while it gets the job done, im spoiled by the solid feel and quality of vortex. I don't need something that will take heavy abuse or anything, but I would like something that is moderately good quality and good glass.

 

[nogginbuster]

Re: Scope similar to Vortex Viper 6-24x50 for rimfire

I tried a vortex crossfire 6x24x50 ao from swfa for $99.00. It is mildot and focus's down to 15 yards.It's made in China, but I'm tickled slam sh*tless with it on my 93R17. Just saying.

 

[shooter65]

Re: Scope similar to Vortex Viper 6-24x50 for rimfire

This is what I have on mine.
Look around for a used one for a better price.

http://www.opticsplanet.net/bushnell-elite-6500-4-5-30x50-riflescope.html


used one here.

http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f40/fs-elite-6500-scope-78554/

 

[mrtoyz]

Re: Scope similar to Vortex Viper 6-24x50 for rimfire

I'm having the same issue. Check out my post, some good suggestions.
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2875183

 

[chemist1]

Re: Scope similar to Vortex Viper 6-24x50 for rimfire

How much parallax error will be encountered at 25 yards if your scope is set to be parallax free at 50 yards? I suspect it would not be a lot especially at 6.5X. I would try shooting the viper and see if you get acceptable accuracy. Also the viper may actually focus a bit closer than 50 yards which will also help.

 

[mrtoyz]

Re: Scope similar to Vortex Viper 6-24x50 for rimfire

I was wondering the same thing. Hoping to take a first hand look at a PST SFD 4-16 this weekend. Curious how close I can get it to focus.

-T

 

[mrtoyz]

Re: Scope similar to Vortex Viper 6-20.5X for rimfire

Well, I got a look through the PST 4-16 SPF moa. The parallax adjustment is supposed to be 50-infinity. I noticed the adjustmnet did go well below the 50 yd mark. At 4x, with the parallax at 50 and below, I was able to get it to focus perfectly clear at 15-20 feet! My understanding was that parallax wouldnt be much of a problem at 4x and at such a close distance. Can anyone verify?

-T

 

[BrettSass844]

Re: Scope similar to Vortex Viper 6-20.5X for rimfire

In my experience Millett and BSA are about the same quality. Some love theirs. I hated mine. Perhaps it was just a bad apple, but if something like what I got passes through the inspection process it's enough to convince me to never buy another. Honestly I don't see why you wouldn't use the viper until you can save a little. Hell if you love your pst save up a few hundred and sell your viper to grab another. Reason I say this is because you mentioned a trainer for your 308. Since I got my trainer done and dialed in with what ammo performs best I never shoot under 50 and rarely 50 anymore. I don't mean to sound rude but there isn't much training that's goes on at 50. That's more of a plinker. Move out to 100 - 200 plus and that where you will get a lot of valuable experience and training. You already have a great scope for this type of shooting. Is it perfect or your dream scope? Prolly not. But enough to get you started based on the intent of the new rifle.

 

[timelinex]

Re: Scope similar to Vortex Viper 6-20.5X for rimfire

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BrettSass844</div><div class="ubbcode-body">In my experience Millett and BSA are about the same quality. Some love theirs. I hated mine. Perhaps it was just a bad apple, but if something like what I got passes through the inspection process it's enough to convince me to never buy another. Honestly I don't see why you wouldn't use the viper until you can save a little. Hell if you love your pst save up a few hundred and sell your viper to grab another. Reason I say this is because you mentioned a trainer for your 308. Since I got my trainer done and dialed in with what ammo performs best I never shoot under 50 and rarely 50 anymore. I don't mean to sound rude but there isn't much training that's goes on at 50. That's more of a plinker. Move out to 100 - 200 plus and that where you will get a lot of valuable experience and training. You already have a great scope for this type of shooting. Is it perfect or your dream scope? Prolly not. But enough to get you started based on the intent of the new rifle. </div></div>
Not a bad point..... I guess I wanted something that could focus in closer since its a 22lr. I know that in the <10x range it will focus in closer than 50 yards, but I usually like using higher mag. Considering In reality I wont be shooting closer than 50 too often, I think your right. I will probably end up keeping the viper 6.5-20x50. Its not mil/mil and the reticle isn't the greatest, but it's optic clarity and pretty good quality make up for it a lil and it should do for a trainer.

 

[Dantrom]

Re: Scope similar to Vortex Viper 6-20.5X for rimfire

I used to have the bushnell elite 3-12 ffp mil/mil and kick myself for ever selling it. Paralax adjusts down to 15 or 10 yards... I didn't have a 22 trainer at the time. Now that I'm rockin a 22 I wish I still had that scope to throw on it! I'm using and liking the weaver grand slam 3-10 mil/mil but would love to have a paralax adjustment!

 

[BrettSass844]

Re: Scope similar to Vortex Viper 6-20.5X for rimfire

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: timelinex</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BrettSass844</div><div class="ubbcode-body">In my experience Millett and BSA are about the same quality. Some love theirs. I hated mine. Perhaps it was just a bad apple, but if something like what I got passes through the inspection process it's enough to convince me to never buy another. Honestly I don't see why you wouldn't use the viper until you can save a little. Hell if you love your pst save up a few hundred and sell your viper to grab another. Reason I say this is because you mentioned a trainer for your 308. Since I got my trainer done and dialed in with what ammo performs best I never shoot under 50 and rarely 50 anymore. I don't mean to sound rude but there isn't much training that's goes on at 50. That's more of a plinker. Move out to 100 - 200 plus and that where you will get a lot of valuable experience and training. You already have a great scope for this type of shooting. Is it perfect or your dream scope? Prolly not. But enough to get you started based on the intent of the new rifle. </div></div>
Not a bad point..... I guess I wanted something that could focus in closer since its a 22lr. I know that in the <10x range it will focus in closer than 50 yards, but I usually like using higher mag. Considering In reality I wont be shooting closer than 50 too often, I think your right. I will probably end up keeping the viper 6.5-20x50. Its not mil/mil and the reticle isn't the greatest, but it's optic clarity and pretty good quality make up for it a lil and it should do for a trainer. </div></div>

Good choice! There are really 3 main deciding factors in optics.
1. Quality
2. Reliability
3. personal preference - depending on desired purpose of said firearm optic will call home.

When you factory in Vortex's customer service and the fact that this will be on a 22 you have 1 and 2 taken care of. Save a few bucks and sell the Viper to take care of number 3 also in the near future... Your Viper will hold good resale by the way. The warranty and good quality you get for the money in the Viper line makes for a short stay in the optics for sale section.Good Luck