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Hello all, I’m in the market for an LVPO, but I’m noticing across the board that a ton of scopes come out of china.

I’m trying to avoid their products, so what recommendations do you have?

Edit; I dont really have a budget. Anywhere up to $2k is fine for a quality lvpo. I prefer best bang for buck, and at no point is china involved in the optic.
 
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Trijicon sights and scopes are made in the US or Japan. Kahles, Steiner, Leica and Zeiss are good options too.
Some companies advertise their products as made in China but with "strict" QA/QC in the US. A lot of times, unless you take the scope apart, a visual inspection won't do any good...
 
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Then you literally can't buy anything from Vortex :( Unless "designed in the US" counts?

Wrong. The AMG is made in the US and actually the most made in the US scope but in a LPVO the Japan made Razor II is a good choice. 'Merica is great but there are plenty of good optics not made here and also not made in China.
 
Primary Arms “Platinum” series are Japanese made and badass. They’re now designated “PL-x”
The 1-8x24 with ACSS Griffin reticle has great glass and performance.
 
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Wrong. The AMG is made in the US and actually the most made in the US scope but in a LPVO the Japan made Razor II is a good choice. 'Merica is great but there are plenty of good optics not made here and also not made in China.
Good to know, I stand corrected. I thought all the higher end models were made in Japan. Glad they are producing some in the US.
 
Uuuuhhhhh. You fucks forgot LEUPOLD. Yeah, they're 2-4 years behind everyone else, but if you wanna spend your hard earned money on no-shit Made in the USA .....

Designed, machined, assembled in the USA


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Hello all, I’m in the market for an LVPO, but I’m noticing across the board that a ton of scopes come out of china.

I’m trying to avoid their products, so what recommendations do you have?

Edit; I dont really have a budget. Anywhere up to $2k is fine for a quality lvpo. I prefer best bang for buck, and at no point is china involved in the optic.

That P5 dial on top of that scope is dead nuts on full-size IPSC steel at 200, 300, 400, and 500 with my pencil-barrel 16" AR (especially with no wind 🤪). Its calibrated for 55gr FMJBT projectile moving at 3100FPS. It's so simple, it's stupid. Zero at 100 with your 55-62 grain ammo of choice, reset the elevation turret to "1" (100 y zero), then to hit a 200 yard target, turn the dial to "2" to hit a 350 yard target, turn turret to "3.5", and so on.

If you run your 55gr projectile ballistics through Strelok or other program you'll find the P5 dial could be off by maybe 0.2 mils.... which, last I checked, 0.2 mils at 500y is about 7-8 inches. Aiming center mass on a full-size IPSC (30h x 18w)... that equals hits all day.
 
I think some eotech stuff is made here to but you have to wear a plate carrier and a boy bun to use it.

Just get the c more on black friday
 
Back on topic. A LPVO under $2k, and not made in China. the biggest requirement for me is to get to true 1x. that, by the way, has proved to be difficult for most. While I love Leupold, I am pretty sure you cannot hit true 1x under $2k.

1) Vortex HD-E Gen2 1-6x is a solid scope, and great eyebox, for two-eye open shooting, and then moves up to 6x.
2) Nightforece NX8 1-8x. Ligther weight, withstands droping and running it over. Solid scope, but less eyebox, so more of a standard scope, but gets you to 8x.
3) Vortex HD Gen3 1-10x, one of the more popular scsopes for 2020. I little on the higher magnifcation than typical LPVO, and heavy. Outstanding value and gets to the top end of your budget. Hardest part is findind one or waiting for one. All great reveiws.
4) Steiner P4xi. Outstanding small scope, but only gets you to 4x. Extremely popular, and hard to find.
5) Steiner T5xi. Also a great scope. Gets very little attention, as they came out with at 6x, and this is 1-5x.

Burris has a model, and they have generally been good, but I have not used the newer lower power model. I liked thier previous generation. You said budget was not option. If it were, I would also look at Vortex PST 1-6x and 1-8x. Pretty decent offering, and priced well. I think this one is from the Phillipines. I would have to check. The better Vortex scopes are from Japan. Next in line are Phillipines, in my opinion.
 
Back on topic. A LPVO under $2k, and not made in China. the biggest requirement for me is to get to true 1x. that, by the way, has proved to be difficult for most. While I love Leupold, I am pretty sure you cannot hit true 1x under $2k.

1) Vortex HD-E Gen2 1-6x is a solid scope, and great eyebox, for two-eye open shooting, and then moves up to 6x.
2) Nightforece NX8 1-8x. Ligther weight, withstands droping and running it over. Solid scope, but less eyebox, so more of a standard scope, but gets you to 8x.
3) Vortex HD Gen3 1-10x, one of the more popular scsopes for 2020. I little on the higher magnifcation than typical LPVO, and heavy. Outstanding value and gets to the top end of your budget. Hardest part is findind one or waiting for one. All great reveiws.
4) Steiner P4xi. Outstanding small scope, but only gets you to 4x. Extremely popular, and hard to find.
5) Steiner T5xi. Also a great scope. Gets very little attention, as they came out with at 6x, and this is 1-5x.

Burris has a model, and they have generally been good, but I have not used the newer lower power model. I liked thier previous generation. You said budget was not option. If it were, I would also look at Vortex PST 1-6x and 1-8x. Pretty decent offering, and priced well. I think this one is from the Phillipines. I would have to check. The better Vortex scopes are from Japan. Next in line are Phillipines, in my opinion.

The Gen III 1-10 weighs the same as the Gen II 1-6 at 21.5 ounces. Not really heavy.
 
Uuuuhhhhh. You fucks forgot LEUPOLD. Yeah, they're 2-4 years behind everyone else, but if you wanna spend your hard earned money on no-shit Made in the USA .....

Designed, machined, assembled in the USA
Yea, well, not really. A carefully parsed statement, that. Notice it doesnt say "made" in USA. Designed, some parts are machined prior to assembly of foriegn sourced parts.

Last I heard thier top of the line stuff was still MADE in USA but not the low/mid range stuff. That was a few years ago and that may indeed have changed.
 
USA, Japan, and the European Manufacturers are all phenomenal.
as long as it is made by one of those countries and a reputable manufacturer don't too caught up in it unless you just want your money to go to Americans. in that case Leupold is designed and made in the USA and proud of it.


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Highly recommend the Vortex Razor G3 1-10.
the more i play with it the more impressed i am and its made by LOW in Japan who makes some very high quality scopes for a lot of big names like nightforce among others.
i picked it up on backorder from eurooptic for 2000 and it shipped next day... probably just got lucky but i would highly recommend them as well.
 
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Uuuuhhhhh. You fucks forgot LEUPOLD. Yeah, they're 2-4 years behind everyone else, but if you wanna spend your hard earned money on no-shit Made in the USA .....

Designed, machined, assembled in the USA


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You should ask them why the had to remove their Made In USA labels years back.

Deceptive wording.

I get 65% off any Leupold product and there is still nothing they make someone else doesn't do Better & Cheaper.
 
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Burris XTR III. Not an LVPO, but 3.3-18x is their lowest variable power out of two models. Glass from Japan, but assembled in US. Now are there any parts, even little screws, and little parts not made in China...who knows. Same for all builders, some parts, especially small, cheap ones, might not be made in America. You can google the FTC for "made in USA" rules. What if a little screw or if the paint or glue is from China, will that disqualify it in your eyes? Are negligible amounts of Chinese components ok, or are you absolutely 110% firm. It could be tough to get rid of Chinese materials completely....look at electronics, cars...hell look at everything for sale at Target, Walmart, and Costco. Not much in life can be 100% American made.
 
Vortex are designed US, made in either Phillipines or Japan, depending on model?
As I understand it, Some Vortex scopes are made in Japan, some are made in the Philippines, some are made in Japan; it depends on which line of scope you want: The strike eagle are made in Communist China. The PST are made in the Philippines. The razor are made in Japan (info. from a review on amazon). The AMDs are made in America. Too bad too, because I really like the Strike Eagle 5-25x56.

Nightforce scopes are made in Orofino, ID and are just outstanding. Nightforce is what I'd really like to put on my rifle; depending on the model you want, they can sell for in the $900-3600 range.
 
Uuuuhhhhh. You fucks forgot LEUPOLD. Yeah, they're 2-4 years behind everyone else, but if you wanna spend your hard earned money on no-shit Made in the USA .....

Designed, machined, assembled in the USA


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Does the company allow workers to mainline during breaks ?
 
As I understand it, Some Vortex scopes are made in Japan, some are made in the Philippines, some are made in Japan; it depends on which line of scope you want: The strike eagle are made in Communist China. The PST are made in the Philippines. The razor are made in Japan (info. from a review on amazon). The AMDs are made in America. Too bad too, because I really like the Strike Eagle 5-25x56.

Nightforce scopes are made in Orofino, ID and are just outstanding. Nightforce is what I'd really like to put on my rifle; depending on the model you want, they can sell for in the $900-3600 range.

Not all. Might want to read this.
 
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Hello all, I’m in the market for an LVPO, but I’m noticing across the board that a ton of scopes come out of china.

I’m trying to avoid their products, so what recommendations do you have?

Edit; I dont really have a budget. Anywhere up to $2k is fine for a quality lvpo. I prefer best bang for buck, and at no point is china involved in the optic.
TRACT Optics. Japanese SHOTT glass and built in America. Buy direct from the company only. Good comparable pricing
 
Primary Arms “Platinum” series are Japanese made and badass. They’re now designated “PL-x”
The 1-8x24 with ACSS Griffin reticle has great glass and performance.
I agree with this, and their reticles are way ahead of everyone else. Nothing but good reviews also.
 
Hello all, I’m in the market for an LVPO, but I’m noticing across the board that a ton of scopes come out of china.

I’m trying to avoid their products, so what recommendations do you have?

Edit; I dont really have a budget. Anywhere up to $2k is fine for a quality lvpo. I prefer best bang for buck, and at no point is china involved in the optic.
I had a 3 x 9 x 40 Burris Red dot on my .300 WIN MAG Tikka M695 by SAKO it was a lower level Burris but I could reach out to 1000 yards easily and did on many occasions, far as I know their scopes were 100% american. Made in Greeley I read some place. I know many who have them, all higher end than mine and they love them. Just a thought.