SCOTUS, WUT?

[WaltHer]

I can't, for the life of me, figure out why SCOTUS continues to abandon the 2A through abdication...

Supreme Court will allow Sandy Hook families to move forward in suit against gunmaker Remington

The families sued the makers of the gun that was used, an AR-15 style weapon made by Remington, in 2014, alleging that the company's marketing of the weapon inspired Adam Lanza to commit the massacre.

www.cnbc.com

Oh, and Epstein didn't kill himself.

 

[x_789]

That stock photo in that article. Some interesting looking Remingtons.

 

[W54/XM-388]

So we can now sue the car makers for drunk drivers crashing into folks?

And I guess by the same logic we can sue car makers for everything they are worth for aggressive drivers causing crashes? I mean every car commercial I see seems to show aggressive driving and excessive speeds....

Maybe if we could sue the courts & judges for crimes criminals commit when they get released from prison or put out on bail, the courts might see the error of that line of stupid reasoning?

Those families are being just greedy stooges. Happily trying to soak someone else who had nothing to do with their loss for money because the actual criminal is dead & broke and they don't care if they destroy the country, start a civil war and end our rights to get their filthy undeserved payout.

How about they sue the state that refused to lockup the nutjob even when his mother was begging them to before he murdered her?
How about sue the government for purposely refusing to provide security and guards at schools or allowing anyone else to protect themselves?

 

[Bender]

I’m gunna sue farmers and ranchers for making me fat.

 

[MadDuner]

I’m gonna sue Hodgi down at the 7/11 for not selling me the winning lottery ticket!

 

[j-huskey]

@Bender
Us farmers n ranchers gonna sue yo momma for making u ugly (not handsome)....

 

[wade2big]

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That stock photo in that article. Some interesting looking Remingtons.

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AK74 goodness!!!!
I probably shouldn't have cashed out of all of mine last year. They were commanding way more money than I valued them though. Selling those and 35,000 rounds of surplus made me a small fortune. LOL

 

[Aries256]

Damn traitors. Does anyone fucking recognize a right anymore?! Does anyone fucking uphold the Constitution anymore?!

 

[SilentStalkr]

If there isn’t any civil war or rebellion against this Bs already then there isn’t going to be one. How much more corruption, unequal applied laws, etc. do you need?

 

[Trigger Monkey]

The sad fact is that a lot of people don't understand or simple care about the implications of these decisions. They're happy to not read or watch the news because it would make them depressed so they go about their day scrolling through social media or playing Pokemon Go into traffic. Me personally, I think social media represents a significant threat to our society, more so then most people would give it credit for. It's unfortunate but I've seen social media become a news source for most people, ignoring the fact that past history has shown just how out of context and incorrect this "source" can be.

In my opinion, if the public at large wants to do something about gun violence then we have to go deeper then attack an inanimate object and law abiding citizens. I think the approach would have to be multifaceted but in general looking into the addiction to social media, the over prescription of psychotropic drugs, and how our society is generally abandoning the principle of family. Granted, these are pie in the sky thoughts because it'd mean going after the technology and pharmaceutical industries as well as society itself and that kind of introspection would probably be viewed as just too hard, so let's go after the low hanging fruit.

 

[Darayavaus]

That stock photo in that article. Some interesting looking Remingtons.

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proof that remington colluded with the russians!

 

[Darayavaus]

The sad fact is that a lot of people don't understand or simple care about the implications of these decisions. They're happy to not read or watch the news because it would make them depressed so they go about their day scrolling through social media or playing Pokemon Go into traffic. Me personally, I think social media represents a significant threat to our society, more so then most people would give it credit for. It's unfortunate but I've seen social media become a news source for most people, ignoring the fact that past history has shown just how out of context and incorrect this "source" can be.

In my opinion, if the public at large wants to do something about gun violence then we have to go deeper then attack an inanimate object and law abiding citizens. I think the approach would have to be multifaceted but in general looking into the addiction to social media, the over prescription of psychotropic drugs, and how our society is generally abandoning the principle of family. Granted, these are pie in the sky thoughts because it'd mean going after the technology and pharmaceutical industries as well as society itself and that kind of introspection would probably be viewed as just too hard, so let's go after the low hanging fruit.

1 out of 100 people give a shit about the bigger picture, or the implications of anything 5 years down the road.
wake up, work, go home, drink a 6 pack, go to sleep, repeat.

 

[DuneBoer]

I missed an Elk this season. I’m going to sue Remington.

 

[Fig]

Wake me up when we're done talking.

 

[Crang]

Pretty soon the libs will be suing Remington for their Russian collusion. Those damn M1891s they made for Tsar Nicholas-

 

[SilentStalkr]

Wake me up when we're done talking.

Exactly what I’ve been saying. I have no idea how much more push you need. Maybe we are there people just don’t know how to mobilize and act?

 

[Aries256]

Exactly what I’ve been saying. I have no idea how much more push you need. Maybe we are there people just don’t know how to mobilize and act?

Pffft most people are either keyboard warriors, or the type that will sit and bitch until the libtard SS are knocking on their door. Then its too late.

 

[Fig]

See this lunatic fanatic below?

"These men are all talk. What we need is action—action!" - John Brown

He got into a political argument with his neighbor (who didn't and had never owned a slave) and hacked him to death with a saber in front of the man's wife and children. After that he led a mob who murdered five pro-slavery citizens (none of whom also had ever owned a slave). He fled justice that time, but it ended up finding him. He got himself, his sons, and some other retards killed trying to start a slave rebellion.

You know what? He was absolutely right about slavery. Which makes him no less of a lunatic fanatic, and is completely irrelevant as to his just fate at the end of a Federal rope. Hung for treason, murder, and insurrection. Kind of ironic that Federal troops were singing his name just a few years after their side executed him.


and...

You're wrong about the Schutzstaffel. Opening fire (through your door) when they knock on it in the middle of the night is exactly, precisely the right time for violence. If everyone opens fire when they come for you there won't be any of them left, and even if there are they won't be knocking on any doors in the middle of the night when it's sure to get them killed...

 

[eca7891]

I would like to hear their reasoning to not uphold the "no liability for firearms manufacturer" law. Uncertain to the exact name of the law yet would like to know how it possibly could not apply here.

Pretty sure Remington did not sell him the firearm either.

 

[Veer_G]

I’m gonna sue Hodgi down at the 7/11 for not selling me the winning lottery ticket!

Keep that up and you'll wind up with cow shit in your tins of snuff.

 

[Aries256]

Scotus should be ashamed of themselves. Abandoning their oath of office. Disgusting.

 

[SilentStalkr]

Scotus should be ashamed of themselves. Abandoning their oath of office. Disgusting.

Better yet, why don’t some armed men match up there and remind them of their oaths! I get it, this is a feel good measure. Lots of people upset about what happened, as any human should be, but you cannot legislate based on feelings, period. They have now opened a huge can of worms. Any company at this point could be sued for anything that their product was used for that resulted in someone’s injury or death. That’s scary. Uhaul rents a truck someone uses to run over a bunch of people and bam they going to be liable. McDonalds hot coffee used in a disputed where people were intentionally burned they going to be liable. Ford sells a mustang to some stupid kid that goes racing on the interstate and causes an accident as a result, Ford is sued. Where is individual responsibility? I swear I live in some asinine alternate universe.

 

[TheGerman]

Can I now sue people for making me shoot them?

 

[W54/XM-388]

Better yet, why don’t some armed men match up there and remind them of their oaths!

Probably because they would never arrive as the entire force of "Just Following Orders" types that we pay for with our taxes would be immediately thrown against them in whatever numbers it took to win the fight.

 

[hollowoutadime]

Here is a little ray of sunshine:

85% of the world’s 1 billion guns are in civilian hands

A trio of new reports by the Small Arms Survey finds that 85% of the world’s one billion guns are in the hands of its citizens who far outgun the militaries and police responsible for their protection.

bigthink.com

 

[Bender]

@Bender
Us farmers n ranchers gonna sue yo momma for making u ugly (not handsome)....

I’m actually only fat because every time I see yer mom she makes me a sammich.

 

[SilentStalkr]

Probably because they would never arrive as the entire force of "Just Following Orders" types that we pay for with our taxes would be immediately thrown against them in whatever numbers it took to win the fight.

Then we deserve what we get.

 

[Son of Dorn]

So we can now sue the car makers for drunk drivers crashing into folks?

And I guess by the same logic we can sue car makers for everything they are worth for aggressive drivers causing crashes? I mean every car commercial I see seems to show aggressive driving and excessive speeds....

Maybe if we could sue the courts & judges for crimes criminals commit when they get released from prison or put out on bail, the courts might see the error of that line of stupid reasoning?

Those families are being just greedy stooges. Happily trying to soak someone else who had nothing to do with their loss for money because the actual criminal is dead & broke and they don't care if they destroy the country, start a civil war and end our rights to get their filthy undeserved payout.

How about they sue the state that refused to lockup the nutjob even when his mother was begging them to before he murdered her?
How about sue the government for purposely refusing to provide security and guards at schools or allowing anyone else to protect themselves?

Can I sue Mitsubishi for Pearl Harbor?

 

[kenny1773]

This is some stupid leftist shit

So the police can totally destroy a man's house in Colorado, there is no question the police did it

Police destroyed an innocent man's home during an arrest. But he's owed nothing, court rules

A Colorado town owes an innocent man nothing, according to a court ruling, though police destroyed his home while trying to arrest a suspect

www.usatoday.com

and they are not responsible for any damages at all?? even though they physically did all the destruction on purpose and admitted to it

But Remington is somehow going to he held responsible for damages that they had absolutely no involvement with.

This country has completely lost all common sense

 

[MadDuner]

I’m Gonna sue my gun manufacturer, my scope manufacturer and my ammo manufacturer because my 5MOA groups cannot possibly be MY fault!

 

[Snuby642]

This crap is exactly what the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act, was
intended to stop.

SCOTUS DAMN WELL KNOWS IT. Since when are they allowed to ignore the law?

 

[j-huskey]

I’m actually only fat because every time I see yer mom she makes me a sammich.

She sed u always want quad decker sammichez and u eating up my inheritance and us outta house n home. Slow down on them quad deckers dude... ??????

 

[Howland]

Since when are they allowed to ignore the law?

Aw, c'mon. They're not ignoring anything. They only "interpret" it to mean the exact opposite of what it says.

Nothing to see here folks. Move along.

 

[SilentStalkr]

So, can I sue the government and arms makers for having to sell my property taking a loss because of something I was in no way affiliated with? Last I checked it was a constitutionally protected right and this mess is trying to circumvent what is essentially a God given right. Nope, America gets what it deserves. Nobody has the stones that the founders did.

 

[WaltHer]

I would like to hear their reasoning to not uphold the "no liability for firearms manufacturer" law. Uncertain to the exact name of the law yet would like to know how it possibly could not apply here.

Pretty sure Remington did not sell him the firearm either.

"An exception in the law, provided in cases where the gun manufacturer knowingly violated the law through its marketing practices, paved the way for the families to launch their suit."

"The families sued the makers of the gun that was used, an AR-15-style weapon made by Remington, in 2014, alleging that the company's marketing of the weapon inspired Adam Lanza to commit the massacre."

 

[Rthur]

Man, I'm sure glad we got another "conservative" judge on the SCOTUS...

R

 

[nn8734]

That exception sounds really vague.

Did Remington literally state as a part of its marketing campaign, “Hey 18-24 year old males. Buy the Bushmaster AR-15: best AR for committing a school shooting!”

If so, I suppose I could understand why they could be partially liable. Failing that, it’s still no different then holding GM, Ford or any other auto manufacturer because someone used one of their products to commit vehicular homicide.

This should have been thrown out a long time ago and certainly thrown out by SCOUS in this ruling.

Now it will probably end up at the Supreme Court again after Remington is found liable at the trial court level by activist judges.

Fucking ridiculous

 

[WaltHer]

, “Hey 18-24 year old males. [Kill your mother and steal her] Bushmaster AR-15: best AR for committing a school shooting!”

Fixed it up a bit...lol.

 

[nn8734]

, “Hey 18-24 year old males. [Kill your mother and steal her] Bushmaster AR-15: best AR for committing a school shooting!”

Fixed it up a bit...lol.

Hey man, don’t fix it up toooo good...they might try to rope you into the suit as well, lol.

 

[kenny1773]

"An exception in the law, provided in cases where the gun manufacturer knowingly violated the law through its marketing practices, paved the way for the families to launch their suit."

"The families sued the makers of the gun that was used, an AR-15-style weapon made by Remington, in 2014, alleging that the company's marketing of the weapon inspired Adam Lanza to commit the massacre."

and I know that logic and facts have very little to do with cases being settled these days, but Lanza was a mental case, officially diagnosed and documented problems

Sandy Hook Gunman Chose School Because He Was Pedophile

In nearly 1,500 pages of newly released documents, the FBI details its thorough investigation into the mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School.

www.newsweek.com

I don't see how any amount of marketing done to 'normal' people can be blamed for how a mentally deranged individual would interpret it.

Due to mental illness, advertising meant for normal people cannot be held responsible.

 

[Jscb1b]

Sue big pharma for the opioid crisis. And all the dr that provides it.

 

[Slash0311]

Its not about a win or loss. Its about forcing gun manufacturers to spend millions upon millions fighting these types of lawsuits.

In the slim chance the left wins, its slowly eroding or rights and we let it happen. Death by a thousand cuts.

 

[WaltHer]

Its not about a win or loss. Its about forcing gun manufacturers to spend millions upon millions fighting these types of lawsuits.

In the slim chance the left wins, its slowly eroding or rights and we let it happen. Death by a thousand cuts.

Not to mention trying to intimidate other firearm manufacturers while they're at it. FTG.

 

[nn8734]

....boog is coming....buy ammo.

 

[DOA]

That exception sounds really vague.

Did Remington literally state as a part of its marketing campaign, “Hey 18-24 year old males. Buy the Bushmaster AR-15: best AR for committing a school shooting!”

If so, I suppose I could understand why they could be partially liable. Failing that, it’s still no different then holding GM, Ford or any other auto manufacturer because someone used one of their products to commit vehicular homicide.

This should have been thrown out a long time ago and certainly thrown out by SCOUS in this ruling.

Now it will probably end up at the Supreme Court again after Remington is found liable at the trial court level by activist judges.

Fucking ridiculous

And to top it off, it was his MOM who bought the weapon and ammo. The blame goes to him and HER, not Remington.

 

[Fig]

I’m actually only fat because every time I see yer mom she makes me a sammich.

Quid pro quo?

 

[eca7891]

"An exception in the law, provided in cases where the gun manufacturer knowingly violated the law through its marketing practices, paved the way for the families to launch their suit."

"The families sued the makers of the gun that was used, an AR-15-style weapon made by Remington, in 2014, alleging that the company's marketing of the weapon inspired Adam Lanza to commit the massacre."

That is one hell of a mountain to climb.

 

[Fig]

That's kind of how I see it as well. I'm not bent out of shape by this, because to me it seems like they're ruling on the letter of the law. They're using the exception to the law, as written, and I think the SCOTUS was just ruling that they can sue and try to prove that Remington's marketing caused the shooting.

I agree that's like a quadriplegic looking up from the base of Everest. That said, maybe the law should be changed because it allows a frivolous lawsuit like this one, and true justice would be Remington counter suing the families for their legal expenses. Put the fuck up or shut up. The press would howl if they won, but fuck 'em.

I can see this going to court and being dismissed very quickly. If that doesn't happen then the law probably needs to be amended.

 

[eca7891]

I can see this going to court and being dismissed very quickly. If that doesn't happen then the law probably needs to be amended.

I would support an outcome such as this.

 

[Scott037]

Here is a little ray of sunshine:

85% of the world’s 1 billion guns are in civilian hands

A trio of new reports by the Small Arms Survey finds that 85% of the world’s one billion guns are in the hands of its citizens who far outgun the militaries and police responsible for their protection.

bigthink.com

Ive known roughly this for years and it makes me smile