sig cross sawtooth vs. bergara HMR pro

[Blythe Wurster]

Hi all,

first time poster, long time fan of the site.

I'm Looking for opinions on the new sig cross sawtooth w/ proof barrel vs bergara premier hmr pro. both in 300 prc

Both have a sub MOA guarantee from factory. Sawtooth is about 1k more.

sawtooth is 8.1lb, bergara 9.8 before attachments. and 24 vs 26in barrel

I know the sawtooth is relatively new and tough to find hands on data, while the bergara seems much more proven from what ive read. And I'm torn between the two for long range hobby shooting out to a mile. with an occasional hunt tossed in maybe once a year (mountain hunting in CA)

Which co. has better CS and such
pros & cons of either platform
which may be more accurate at ELR
Is caliber changing just a barrel swap on the bargara like it is the sawtooth?
Any user experiences to draw from with the new sawtooth?

i already have glass, Razor HD gen 2 4.5-27x56


TIA!

 

[jbuck88]

I'd pay the upcharge and get a proof barrel. Button vs cut rifled barrels is worth something, you just gotta decide how much it's worth to you personally.


I've owned a sig cross and a buddy owned one as well. Both are excellent rifles and a proof barrel would only make them better.

A hunting partner has a Bergara in 6.5prc and it has a pretty slow barrel on it. (Sample size of 1 doesn't mean very much).

All that said do you like stocks are chassis? Is being able to fold the stock to make it easier to pack or transport make your life easier?

 

[Blythe Wurster]

ive had those same thoughts about the proof barrel being better as a stock offering for obvious reasons. accuracy is certainly worth something to me. my only reservation is does the bergara get the many reported reviews ive seen of 1/2-3/4 moa making the proof barrel less of an "upgrade" than it is on paper. and does that translate to 1000 dollars well saved for bergara upgrades like a KRG bravo or other lighter stock offering vs the HMR stock @ 4lb, plus a barrel, action, brake ect improvements.

as for the stock/chassis question i cant recall ever having or using a folder on a rifle personally. for packing i can imagine it making life much easier or friendly, but thats all ive got. my current plan, if i used either for a hunt would be hand carry, then attach the rifle to my bag for either option when hiking long or treacherous terrain.

 

[jbuck88]

For packing. I meant folded and strapped to, or in, a pack. That's the way my friend always packs his.

 

[Blythe Wurster]

The cross that just arrived at my local LGS had an accuracy card with .38 moa groups with a berger 245gr bullet.

I'm gonna go with the sawtooth and will report back my findings after I get it out of CA 10 day jail and tested.

 

[Vidar]

I just ordered myself a Cross Magnum in 300 PRC. Once it arrives I too will post up a review of the rifle.

 

[Blythe Wurster]

I just ordered myself a Cross Magnum in 300 PRC. Once I get it I too will post up a review of the rifle once I get it.

Awesome! Let us know the moa when you find out too what's on the card

 

[Vidar]

Will do, if it's not under MOA back to Sig it goes.

 

[Vidar]

Quick update! I took my rifle out today and it did very well! Disregard the impact low right. That was my very first shot after bore sighting.
I would call this rifle very capable, and easily 1/2". I would've shot more groups but I had other rifles that needed more attention.
I will take it out next weekend and put some rounds through the rifle and see how capable it really is.

TLDR:
Rifle shoots very well with very limited testing.

 

[Blythe Wurster]

Quick update! I took my rifle out today and it did very well! Disregard the impact low right. That was my very first shot after bore sighting.
I would call this rifle very capable, and easily 1/2". I would've shot more groups but I had other rifles that needed more attention.
I will take it out next weekend and put some rounds through the rifle and see how capable it really is.

TLDR:
Rifle shoots very well with very limited testing.

That's awesome to see! I'm picking mine up after the CA 10 day hold tomorrow. Then I will get to the range asap for an update as well.

 

[Vidar]

I hope yours shoots as good or better than mine. I really am digging the rifle!

 

[Blythe Wurster]

Update from today.... the sawtooth Shoots better than I can. Put 33rds through it total from zero to 600yd test. I can only manage a 1in to slightly under at 100yds consistently. If i can get ultra steady, Sometimes I can stack the bullets which if I could always repeat it might be 1/2 for me personally. but occasionally I throw a flyer every few shots.

After zero I also shot about a softball size group at 600yds first try After inputting my elevation correction.

Recoil is way less that I would have expected. Does not beat you up at all. I could have shot 100rds or more.

Love it!

 

[Blythe Wurster]

best 4 shot group of today. About 1/2" wide x .85" tall.

 

[Blythe Wurster]

Quick update...

Shot the sawtooth at 1000yd & 1 mile today @ a small 10x10" pumpkin... after getting dialed at 1000yd i made a few impacts and immediately took off to 1mi. At one mile i got dialed and I thought I was hitting it @ 1 mile for about 5 shots and decided to go check. after coming in, Turns out I was hitting the stand i had the pumpkin on just below it about 10 or so" (couldn't see the splash of dust so assumed it was impacting, no spotting scope to confirm from that range). But... stacked those rounds on the stand in about a 10" group.

admittedly i was a little concerned about the barrel length of the sawtooth. Being 22" plus 2" of break at the advertised 24". 22 inches of barrel just seemed to short to me and had been considering rebarreling options. However, after seeing the performance today I would say outside of just trying to get more velocity it is entirely unnecessary. The sawtooth is very much more capable than I am as a shooter and I'd like to think I'm at least average.

Fwiw anyone considering one of those rifles will not be dissatisfied in my opinion.

Also, as a reference I have a custom rifle build from altus I plan on doing in the future and its going to set me back 5k. This is 2k less out the door. And for how much more performance I can't say, but I doubt its going to be groundbreaking at my skillset

 

[BrianGustaw]

I just sent my HMR pro back to Bergara, 3” group at 100 with Hornady ELD-M. Managed to get it down to 2.5” with handloads. Had high hopes for it definitely a let down. So we will see what they have to say