So a private for profit corporation writes policy for most police departments

[nagantguy]

EXCLUSIVE: Hackers leak cop manuals for departments nationwide after breaching major provider

Critics accuse the company of wielding outsized private influence on public policing.

www.dailydot.com

Not a great article but better then the other 2 I’ve seen this morning.

Hackers stole and released a trove of documents from Lexipol a private consulting firm that writes policies and manuals and training protocols for a majority of Americans police departments- in secret with no input from departments and without taking state laws into account.

Not sure where to go with this figured I’d throw it to the savage minds of the pit and have a discussion on it.

 

[nagantguy]

Wonder if Lexipols policy manuals say to stand around until the bad guys are done shooting up a school.

Wonder if it’s because of these policy manuals that cops fucking hate anyone with a camera .

I plan to read all the pirated documents when I have a minute- and I’m very curious to see what these “policies” say about - not arresting the illegals with face tattoos even after they murder people and fuck kids .

The above may or may not be completely made up.

 

[The D]

Focus of the article is a little misleading. Calling Lexipol an NGO may be a little closer to the truth than saying they are “private”. They still really only write the policy that each department specifies and are paid with stolen tax money. More shit-ass gov doing shit-ass gov things

 

[Niles Coyote]

They don't write our policy nor am I aware of any department in southwest Michigan that doesn't write their own.

 

[Skunk]

In the past, the Pit has expressed support for the idea of privatization of police. If that is still true, wouldn’t a private consulting firm be favored over the police department writing their own policies?

If PD’s are buying policy, is there room for competition? Could someone open a competing consulting firm and sell more conservative, less restrictive, common sense policies more in line with what people really want?

 

[fdkay]

EXCLUSIVE: Hackers leak cop manuals for departments nationwide after breaching major provider

Critics accuse the company of wielding outsized private influence on public policing.

www.dailydot.com

Not a great article but better then the other 2 I’ve seen this morning.

Hackers stole and released a trove of documents from Lexipol a private consulting firm that writes policies and manuals and training protocols for a majority of Americans police departments- in secret with no input from departments and without taking state laws into account.

Not sure where to go with this figured I’d throw it to the savage minds of the pit and have a discussion on it.

Do they write policies?
Yes. Based on best practices. Stunning revelation, since most department policies are available online or will be provided by s simple FOIA request.
So, the write policy with no input from agencies? Really, show your proof they they do not solicit or accept feedback.
Please give a specific example of where they have violated state laws, or written a policy that violates a state law, include in that, an agency of a particular state that adopted a policy that violated state law.

 

[The D]

In the past, the Pit has expressed support for the idea of privatization of police. If that is still true, wouldn’t a private consulting firm be favored over the police department writing their own policies?

If PD’s are buying policy, is there room for competition? Could someone open a competing consulting firm and sell more conservative, less restrictive, common sense policies more in line with what people really want?

Calling it “private” is the first problem. Being paid through tax money is NOT how real businesses survive. You have to provide a good or service that enough people voluntarily purchase to stay in business. If you can’t do that, you go out of business

And that is how the exact same argument applies to all of the police forces in the country.

 

[Skunk]

Calling it “private” is the first problem. Being paid through tax money is NOT how real businesses survive. You have to provide a good or service that enough people voluntarily purchase to stay in business. If you can’t do that, you go out of business

And that is how the exact same argument applies to all of the police forces in the country.

Do we know Lexipol doesn’t sell policy to other private security companies (mall cops, etc)? The article says they’re Texas-based, and it reads as if they sell their stuff all over the country.

Saying that Lexipol is publicly funded because they sell a product to an organization that is publicly funded is kinda thin. Isn’t that like saying the 7/11 where Officer Schmuckatelli buys gas for his cop car while on-duty is a publicity funded gas station?

Either way…. I think the Pit should draft a policy manual for a PD. Hell, a Pit-penned Deadly Force Policy alone would be quite interesting.

 

[nagantguy]

I found something interesting- I can’t cut and paste it’s a read only file

Page 110- section 1 paragraph 1

The young the elderly the weak the sick and females-
Interactions with these sunsets of the population present unique challenges to the modern law enforcement officer/ security personnel.

It’s is always recommended to use maximum force immediately to prevent any injuries or danger to yourself.
Women and elderly are especially easy to physically dominate.
A quick hands on approach can save value time and resources. *(see section 3 , qualified immunity *)

 

[kalashnikev]

What if I told you that private-for-profit entities write the policies for all Gov-shops?

What if I told you that in American Policing, it matters not-at-all... because they operate without accountability, unbound by policies or even our laws?

There are whole-huge government employee "unions" (organized crime syndicates) that ensure that standards and discipline are never carried out against failing LEOs.

 

[The D]

Do we know Lexipol doesn’t sell policy to other private security companies (mall cops, etc)? The article says they’re Texas-based, and it reads as if they sell their stuff all over the country.

Saying that Lexipol is publicly funded because they sell a product to an organization that is publicly funded is kinda thin. Isn’t that like saying the 7/11 where Officer Schmuckatelli buys gas for his cop car while on-duty is a publicity funded gas station?

Either way…. I think the Pit should draft a policy manual for a PD. Hell, a Pit-penned Deadly Force Policy alone would be quite interesting.

Yes, they write procedures for other sectors too. That’s not my problem with the article. My problem is highlighting that this “private” company is profiting off of police procedure documents. It’s misleading and gives any corrupt dept an excuse that they’re “just following procedure”. I’m almost positive I’m not conveying my thoughts about this properly as well…

The difference is that the 7/11 sells many thousands of dollars of gas/drinks/snacks every day to thousands of people voluntarily. Nobody is forcing a purchase on anyone, unlike the way police departments work. If I don’t like a 7/11’s selection of products or their prices I can go to a different store with my money. The only choice I have regarding police departments is to move and even then there’s no guarantee that the dept where I move will be any better

 

[nagantguy]

Think this SC town bought one of these policy bibles - this pig pulled his gun and threatened to murder a peon for walking in a Walmart parking lot.
It’s a policy !!
And that what the cunts enforce - policy .

 

[Franko]

Incorrectly written policies can result in major financial losses. Using a specialist makes a lot of sense.