Rifle Scopes Something New From Vortex

[IowaGeologist]

Sorry if I missed it somewhere, but looks like Vortex is rolling out a new/updated 5-25 scope in their lineup. With their release of the 5-25 Strike Eagle not long ago I'd think this might be something on the higher end, but have no idea.


https://www.instagram.com/p/CPQ-Pa3Byin/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

 

[Just Macca]

Is 5-25 not just the date?

I hope this is the scope I’ve been holding out for, a LHT or AMG 3-15 in FFP at around 20oz.

If so, will shake a few things up for us lighter weight weight FFP crossover scope whiners.

 

[Rob01]

Is 5-25 not just the date?

Nope.

 

[IowaGeologist]

Is 5-25 not just the date?

I hope this is the scope I’ve been holding out for, a LHT or AMG 3-15 in FFP at around 20oz.

If so, will shake a few things up for us lighter weight weight FFP crossover scope whiners.

The date is definitely 5/25. I'd bet my retirement and left nut that there's a reason they're releasing it 5/25.

 

[Just Macca]

The date is definitely 5/25. I'd bet my retirement and left nut that there's a reason they're releasing it 5/25.

That is pretty convincing...

Can we get some votes on the weight and overall segment it will fit in (Strike Eagle/PST/Razor).

 

[koshkin]

It is not the new Razor.

ILya

 

[flyfisher117]

Part of me wonders if it's an optic to compete with stuff like the Athlon Argos BTR.

Part of me hopes it's something to compete with the MK5 HD.

 

[Jmccracken1214]

Part of me wonders if it's an optic to compete with stuff like the Athlon Argos BTR.

Part of me hopes it's something to compete with the MK5 HD.

I made a post asking about optics around $700... and sportoptics said there was a new scope coming out tomorrow that was 5-25, ffp and 34mm...

 

[Jmccracken1214]

My guess is 34mm Gen 2 viper

 

[Mudflap621]

My guess is 34mm Gen 2 viper

I’ll go with this I think you’ll see the turret design more like on strike eagle and razor and 34mm.

 

[Rob01]

My guess is 34mm Gen 2 viper

Nope.

 

[Mudflap621]

Long as it’s not gen 2 upgrade as mine supposed to ship this week

 

[Just Macca]

Looks 30mm tube to me, but looks can be deceiving.

as long as it’s light and tracks, otherwise it’s entering an over saturated market for 30oz 5-25’s

 

[Bevo]

My bet is everyone here will be underwhelmed by whatever Vortex releases tomorrow.

 

[koshkin]

Тhere is a very specific reason this scope is coming out. For the money it looks quite good and barring something unforeseen, it will do quite well overall.

ILya

 

[Rob01]

Тhere is a very specific reason this scope is coming out. For the money it looks quite good and barring something unforeseen, it will do quite well overall.

ILya

Exactly. Won’t be for everyone but will fill a good nitch.

 

[bobke]

10yd focus, 5x25 for the 22LR ELR market, to compete with the Bushy DMR2 with similar short focus range. Maybe a specific tree and substantial vertical adjustment for same. Just guessing’.

 

[Adkhunter3]

2-10 or 2-12 crossover type scope? That would fill a nitch that’s pretty thin...

 

[BigPrince]

My bet is everyone here will be underwhelmed by whatever Vortex releases tomorrow.

Planning on it.

 

[ICU22250]

If it's not a new Razor then it's nothing to get too excited about...

 

[Yoteski]

If it's another Chineseium optic I'll be completely underwhelmed......

 

[beetroot]

Nope.

35mm Viper?

 

[beetroot]

Is 5-25 not just the date?

What crazy calendar do you use that has 25 months in a year?

 

[beetroot]

10yd focus, 5x25 for the 22LR ELR market, to compete with the Bushy DMR2 with similar short focus range. Maybe a specific tree and substantial vertical adjustment for same. Just guessing’.

The Strike Eagle already does all of that, albeit 15yard parallax.

I'm usually keen to just on the speculation band wagon but in this case I can wait a few hours.

 

[Jackjam]

 

[jb1000br]

Well, it is 5-25...so a new 5-25 - live and available to ship today!

Vortex Venom 5-25 FFP

 

[Bevo]

Heavier than a Strike Eagle...must be made with much more CHY-NA.

 

[flyfisher117]

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... is this a May Fools Joke?

 

[Submarine Sharpshooter]

What crazy calendar do you use that has 25 months in a year?

There’s like nine different ways to express a date time group, so he’s just not using your preferred form

 

[beetroot]

I'm guessing that the lack of looking turrets, heavier weight, less elevation and norrower FOV, it's a slightly less thrills thrills Strike Eagle at a lower price point?
Maybe better glass too?

 

[Mudflap621]

Well good my money is safe...

 

[Jmccracken1214]

Seems like the strike eagle is a no-brainer for $100 more than the venom

I'm guessing that the lack of looking turrets, heavier weight, less elevation and norrower FOV, it's a slightly less thrills thrills Strike Eagle at a lower price point?
Maybe better glass too?

 

[BigPrince]

A worse Strike Eagle for similar price range? Same mag range, same parallax, same tube and bell, Worse FOV and 5oz heavier? Underwhelmed and not understanding the "niche" for this one.

 

[fdkay]

I'm guessing they are competing with the Burris RT series.
I won't buy one, but I'm all for more choices. Just wish they would do more in South Korea and the Philippines.
The RT6 I have is made in the Philippines, I don't know about the higher mag ones, but that, to me is a selling point.

 

[Rob01]

Strike Eagle on left and Venom on right. It is between Diamondback Tactical and Strike Eagle. No illumination or locking turrets like Strike Eagle and will be a few hundred less. Same zero stop set up.

 

[beetroot]

I'm guessing they are competing with the Burris RT series.
I won't buy one, but I'm all for more choices. Just wish they would do more in South Korea and the Philippines.
The RT6 I have is made in the Philippines, I don't know about the higher mag ones, but that, to me is a selling point.

Burris RT25 is made in PRC.

 

[Rob01]

 

[beetroot]

Strike Eagle on left and Venom on right. It is between Diamondback Tactical and Strike Eagle. No illumination or locking turrets like Strike Eagle and will be a few hundred less. Same zero stop set up.

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Are glass and turrets on the SE better than the Venom or much the same?
Eurooptic pricing suggests the street price of the Venom is $200 less than SE ($499 vs $699), probably makes the venom a fairly good buy for new shooters if performance is similar to the SE.

It does seem like the Venom, SE and PST as similar enough that they are just moving potential customers around rather than branching out into new markets. Although more options isn't usually a bad thing.

 

[Jmccracken1214]

Strike Eagle on left and Venom on right. It is between Diamondback Tactical and Strike Eagle. No illumination or locking turrets like Strike Eagle and will be a few hundred less. Same zero stop set up.

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The venom has a zero stop?

hows the glass compare between it and the SE?

 

[godofthunder]

Тhere is a very specific reason this scope is coming out. For the money it looks quite good and barring something unforeseen, it will do quite well overall.

ILya

NRL22 Base Class? Or what is the very specific reason?

 

[BigPrince]

NRL22 Base Class? Or what is the very specific reason?

Price requirement to get into Kmart or?

 

[Neurotic]

NRL22 Base Class? Or what is the very specific reason?

5oz more reliable with fewer parts?

 

[godofthunder]

5oz more reliable with fewer parts?

Heavier, no illum, optics not as nice, less travel...

 

[koshkin]

NRL22 Base Class? Or what is the very specific reason?

Pretty much. Low cost of entry with the same reticle as the entire line up of precision oriented Vortex scopes.

the turrets are surprisingly decent and seem to track in the collimator. I have not been one enough lately to take it to the range, so I have not looked at how it does on the collimator.

I have seen a good number of products from this OEM and they are generally fairly robust.

Ilya

 

[Rob01]

Are glass and turrets on the SE better than the Venom or much the same?
Eurooptic pricing suggests the street price of the Venom is $200 less than SE ($499 vs $699), probably makes the venom a fairly good buy for new shooters if performance is similar to the SE.

It does seem like the Venom, SE and PST as similar enough that they are just moving potential customers around rather than branching out into new markets. Although more options isn't usually a bad thing.

Yes the turrets are almost the same. They are actually more tactile than my SE. It uses the same zero stop set up as the SE. Glass is good in the Venom. I have not had a chance to put it side by side with the SE yet but I can say the Venom is better than the Diamondback Tactical.

They all offer different things for different price points. The Venom adds a zero stop, more travel and 7C reticle over the Diamondback Tactical for $100 more but doesn't offer as much elevation, illumination or locking turrets of the SE. Just another option in the line and a good price point for NRL22 or even someone wanting to get in cheap to centerfire.

 

[Sogan]

Ehh nothing I need.

 

[Solidsnake85]

I get it if it gets people into shooting.... BUT why go with this when a 100 more get a strike eagle. At this price I'm going arken. And I love vortex. Arken seem better across the board with features for price

 

[Rob01]

I get it if it gets people into shooting.... BUT why go with this when a 100 more get a strike eagle. At this price I'm going arken. And I love vortex. Arken seem better across the board with features for price

It's $200 less than the SE and $100 more than Diamondback Tactical.

Also might want to edit your title before getting that Arken.

 

[Neurotic]

Pretty much. Low cost of entry with the same reticle as the entire line up of precision oriented Vortex scopes.

the turrets are surprisingly decent and seem to track in the collimator. I have not been one enough lately to take it to the range, so I have not looked at how it does on the collimator.

I have seen a good number of products from this OEM and they are generally fairly robust.

Ilya

So a direct competitor to the Bushnell Match Pro? Any idea how they compare?

Is this from the same company that makes the Tac Vector optics? The exposed screw on the underside looks familiar.

 

[BoilerUP]

I'd be really curious to see a comparison of the Venom 5-25 with the Bushnell Match Pro 6-24.