Springfield M1A

[fskjester]

So I've been reading a lot about this rife, it's one of my favorite semi auto DMRs. I'm seeing quite often that it is NOT an MOA rifle. Is this true?

If so is it something you could make into an MOA rifle? I'd love to throw it is the Sage chassis and have some fun with it.

 

[JMGlasgow]

Lots of posts on this site about this very topic. To make an MOA rifle with an M14 is usually a very expensive endeavor. However there are some rifles that shoot well with little modifications. The M14 forum is a wealth of information. I have a super match rifle from Springfield that shoots right at 1 MOA. Most rifles with a little work will shoot 1.5 MOA. There is a thread on M14 forum titled the 1.5 MOA challenge. Fulton Armory has a rifle that is guaranteed to shoot MOA or better. It is their "Peerless rifle".

 

[USNavy06]

I like my m1a I purchased the scout version ditched the barrel mount shimmed the gas system upgraded the spring guide to a sadlak national match installed a sadlak gas piston and put a sadlak steel scope mount on it and it shoots 1moa at 100 yards sometimes sub moa. That's with reloads not bulk ammo. I put it in one of those archangel stock ( I know I'll probably get crap for that) but it did help a lot over the cheap factory stock. I'm currently looking for a ebr stock so when I get that I can update on its accuracy. It's a great rifle and I've never had any issues with it at all. I've probably got around 2-3k rounds down range with it. Everyone will tell you need usgi parts but I've not had one problem with mine.

 

[Layton]

M1A's are not known for being MOA rifles even with all the modes and hand loads. They can be but as stated before it's an expensive endeavor. They are battle rifles meant for Minute of torso. But they area lot of fun to shoot and are IMO one of the best looking battle rifles around.

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[Spencerhut]

I gave up shooting my M1A with the Springfield stock on it so my M1A has been rotting in my safe (well almost) for the last two years while I've been waiting for stock from JAE. I've been told "next month" again, so fingers crossed.

 

[USNavy06]

I gave up shooting my M1A with the Springfield stock on it so my M1A has been rotting in my safe (well almost) for the last two years while I've been waiting for stock from JAE. I've been told "next month" again, so fingers crossed.

those JAE stocks are really nice! I cant decide on that or the EBR let us know how it is when you get it.

 

[BCP]

So I've been reading a lot about this rife, it's one of my favorite semi auto DMRs. I'm seeing quite often that it is NOT an MOA rifle. Is this true?

If so is it something you could make into an MOA rifle? I'd love to throw it is the Sage chassis and have some fun with it.

I have one that is bedded in a wood stock, unitized gas system, NM barrel and a scope. It's about 1.5MOA with a good load. Sage stocked ones are similar.

 

[Pitbulz21]

I have a loaded model that shoots 1 1/2" groups at 100yds. Sadlack spring guide, shimmed the gas system, and put the tub a springs in it. I did away with the nm non hooded rear sight as my goal is a accurate battle rifle not a dmr. The front sight was left as is(.062) becouse it is a little easier with the longer shots, and a usgi trigger group worked over by my self. All other parts are just usgi surplus parts! Very well may be even better if I unitized the gas system and bedded a nice McMillan but not what I am going for but I only have around 2g's in the rifle total a good mount and a good scope maby another 1500 to 2000 you could have a m1a that would out shoot most people not just there rifles!

 

[Majikani]

If you like the EBR route check out the Blackfeather stock system. There are threads about it on the M14 forum...

 

[1luckeyt/a]

If you want an m1a because you like it buy one. I love mine. It doesn't shoot 1 ragged hole groups but I didnt expect it to. They can be made to be pretty accurate but it is not cheap. I would say get a loaded model it's probably the best bang for the buck. My loaded shot about 1.5 moa in a unbedded walnut stock.

 

[Arc Light]

I have a Springfield Super Match with Krieger SS barrel and McMillan camo stock that I bought back in the late 1990's and it'll easily shoot under 1 moa. That's with Federal GMM. Paid about $2K new for it back then. Not sure about the accuracy of the newer guns.

 

[bwceynar]

Don't get an M1A to shoot MOA unless you plan on forking out lots of $$$. In my honest opinion, they are a pain in the rear end.. due to the scope mount issues they have. But if you do decide to go the M1A route, id recommend purchasing one from Fulton Armory if you don't want a huge headache and end up having to spend just as much trying to upgrade the cheaper one you bought. I have learned this from experience >.<

 

[1luckeyt/a]

Why does everyone say it is a pain to mount a scope on the m1a? It's a simple process. Get a good mount and a cheek rest, mount scope. I don't see what the issue is. Using my basset mount and that made it pretty pain free.

 

[skeeterIII]

Finally took my Super Match to the range and found it is at least a .7 moa rifle. It does have a Hart stainless barrel which at one time the factory offered. It was made in 1996 and I finally shot it because I should be getting a JAE-100 gen 3 stock in 3 or 4 weeks. That should take care of the fragile bedding issue as the JAE-100 uses an aluminum block and can be easily removed something that should not be done too often with the epoxy bedding that leaves at the factory. According to Lisa it will be mailed out around the second week in Oct as I ordered it in Oct. last year. I am wondering if it will be even more accurate with the new stock?

Has anyone found that the Super Match is more accurate with the JAE-100 stock?

 

[1luckeyt/a]

SkeeterIII what did you use as bedding? I use devcon and that stuff is pretty hard. I have a buddy with a jae on his loaded and it is top notch.

 

[USMA84DAB]

SkeeterIII what did you use as bedding? I use devcon and that stuff is pretty hard. I have a buddy with a jae on his loaded and it is top notch.

FINALLY! A topic where I have $.01 to add

I have a Loaded M1A - NM barrel, trigger, flash suppressor - then I was able to have Springfield bed the stock, unitize the gas system and do a trigger job on it. I purchased it in 1998 when they were assembling rifles with USGI parts.

I have a Leupold M3 (3.5x10x40) on a SWAN mount. If I do my part, it will shoot .75MOA. At The GAP Grind I was spanking the steel targets first round hits to 700 yards. At 800 it dropped to 50% 1st round hits, with 50% of the 2nd rounds hitting. This is with no prior practice at this distance, and very little at 3-400 ten years ago.

By the time you built an M1A into this level of performance, maybe it would be as cheap to just get a GAP 10?

If you want an M1A, then build or buy it from Fulton Armory.

I spent a great deal of $ and effort to assemble my system - just wanted to share with you what it took so you know the price and can make a decision to do it, or pass and choose another route.


USMA84DAB

 

[skeeterIII]

1luckeyt/a The JAE-100 has aluminum blocks (or optional titanium blocks) and bedding that the receiver sits in or on. Their is no other bedding, I believe, like on the Sig 3000 or the Sako TRG 42/22. That is main reason I ordered it because even Devcon or any epoxy should not be taken apart a lot and can crack.

 

[1luckeyt/a]

I'm tracking on the jae locking the receiver into the stock, they are tanks and that is a pretty smart design. I always wondered what increased the weapons accuracy more on the jae, the receiver being locked down into the stock or the barrel tensioner being attached to a super rigid aluminum frame. The only problem is now my buddies loaded with the jae is a pretty heavy rifle. Awesome looking, MOA, but heavy. I bedded my rifle with devcon myself. It was way more complicated than doing my savage, but I enjoyed it. I get a kick out of doing stuff like that. When I get back to the states Im Kicking around the idea of getting some liquid devcon and skim coating the bedding to fix a few imperfections.